Early Games Thread 12/6

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Post by El Kabong » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:23 am

Whoa Denver


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Post by Steelperch » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:25 am

El Kabong wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:07 am
Denver hanging in, although they are losing now.
Chiefs are far from unbeatable. This is the 5th game this year they looked flat.

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:28 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:25 am
Chiefs are far from unbeatable. This is the 5th game this year they looked flat.
I'll take them and Mahomes over Manning and his Colts any day, but truthfully their offense only looks dominant against overmatched defenses.
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Post by TTP » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:32 am

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:28 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:25 am
Chiefs are far from unbeatable. This is the 5th game this year they looked flat.
I'll take them and Mahomes over Manning and his Colts any day, but truthfully their offense only looks dominant against overmatched defenses.
I don't think they look flat at all. They are averaging 8 yards per play. Just have been unlucky in the redzone.

Edit: just got the redzone TD

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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:35 am

Chickillo is still in the league?
Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”

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Post by Steeler Owl » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:35 am

"That was Anthony Chickillo who jumped offsides."

YOI

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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:37 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:25 am
El Kabong wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:07 am
Denver hanging in, although they are losing now.
Chiefs are far from unbeatable. This is the 5th game this year they looked flat.
Ive been saying this for awhile as well...bud is a huge loss but they are very beatable, and i wouldnt be shocked if someone beat them before we have a chance to play them

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Post by Pabst » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:39 am

TTP wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:32 am
Kodiak wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:28 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:25 am
Chiefs are far from unbeatable. This is the 5th game this year they looked flat.
I'll take them and Mahomes over Manning and his Colts any day, but truthfully their offense only looks dominant against overmatched defenses.
I don't think they look flat at all. They are averaging 8 yards per play. Just have been unlucky in the redzone.

Edit: just got the redzone TD
KC can't run the ball in the red zone. They haven't been great in the red zone all year.....i think they were 12th in TD % heading into today. That's fine, but hardly elite

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Post by VeritasSteel » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:41 am

Sitting here watching the Denver running game get any run they want. Then I realized I’ve seen this level of guards pulling, counters, and linemen at the second level before- it was when MM was in Pittsburgh. Denver doesn’t have nearly the talent we have up front and they are manhandling KC. After watching them run our old run game blocking it’s become clear we have a coaching deficit on the OL

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Post by El Kabong » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:55 am

Man I hate that. Get your ass in the endzone before you celebrate.
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Post by Steelperch » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:59 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:35 am
Chickillo is still in the league?
I felt the same way watching Colt McCoy play today. I thought James Harrison killed him.

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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:00 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:59 am
RemoAZ wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:35 am
Chickillo is still in the league?
I felt the same way watching Colt McCoy play today. I thought James Harrison killed him.
:lol: same

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Post by TTP » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:05 am

Should run the ball on 3rd down there with the thought of going for it on 4th. Bad decision to punt.

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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:09 am

Why does Denver keep giving 30 the ball? He's been stuffed every freaking time.
Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”

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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:11 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:59 am
RemoAZ wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:35 am
Chickillo is still in the league?
I felt the same way watching Colt McCoy play today. I thought James Harrison killed him.
Loved that play and all the crying Browns fans after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ABe_i ... lmsArchive
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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:23 am

Drew Lock is hot garbage. Elway knows it.

Don’t give the ball back to Mahomes. He will win the game. Nice try, Doncos
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Post by El Kabong » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:24 am

Well, that's that. A team with a better QB beats the Chiefs in that game.
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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:24 am

Lock stinks. So does this Broncos team but they'll praise KC for a hard-fought divisional victory tomorrow.
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Post by El Kabong » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:26 am

If we're Chiefs fans, do we now fret that we'll never beat Pittsburgh because we had to struggle with a 4-7 team tonight?
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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:45 am

just for fun, as of right now:

Right now, your AFC wild card matchups would be:

No. 7 Colts at No. 2 Chiefs
No. 6 Dolphins at No. 3 Bills
No. 5 Browns at No. 4 Titans.

Right now, your NFC wild card matchups would be:

No. 7 Vikings at No. 2 Packers
No. 6 Bucs at No. 3 Rams
No. 5 Seahawks at No. 4 Giants

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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:54 am

I still can't believe the Jets blew that game and the Giants went into Seattle and beat the media MVP with Colt Mccoy.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:39 am

El Kabong wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:43 am
How would we cover Kelce at this point?
Gillooly!

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:56 am

Jobu wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:39 am
El Kabong wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:43 am
How would we cover Kelce at this point?
Gillooly!
Kelce and Hill are almost cheating. There's no questioning Mahomes' talent, but when you give a guy those kind of weapons in an Andy Reid system....

Except how does anyone defend Ben's playground ball? He's about to paint his masterpiece....
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Post by shellwagnerblount » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:33 am

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:56 am
Jobu wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:39 am
El Kabong wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:43 am
How would we cover Kelce at this point?
Gillooly!
Kelce and Hill are almost cheating. There's no questioning Mahomes' talent, but when you give a guy those kind of weapons in an Andy Reid system....

Except how does anyone defend Ben's playground ball? He's about to paint his masterpiece....
The KC O-line gets away with a lot of subtle holding..I noticed quite a few times where they hold and let go at JUST the right time to avoid the call. Smart coaching. I echo the remarks of someone in this topic who said that Denver is REALLY benefitting from that O'line coach they employ..MM is missed in Pittsburgh, to be sure! I wish we could run the ball as well as Denver. WE'd beat KC going away, IMO, with the passing attack we have added in. Going to be one HECK of a game if we face them in playoffs and I believe a lot of media types are going to have egg on their faces afterwards. I don't love the guy (love his STORY, of course) but we need to have our No. 1 RB back and healthy and producing. And probably Dotson in the lineup. WE shall see as the stomach turns!

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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:29 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:54 am
I still can't believe the Jets blew that game and the Giants went into Seattle and beat the media MVP with Colt Mccoy.
What the Jets did is one of those things that make me temporarily flip back over into believing Brian Tuohy that the NFL is scripted.
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Post by Steeler Owl » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:45 pm

I just dont see how the entire NFL can be rigged by an evil, omniscient, puppet-master but it is difficult to argue against the notion that yesterday the Jets--whether the players realized it or not--were coached into the tank.

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Post by tunch » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:31 pm

Steeler Owl wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:45 pm
I just dont see how the entire NFL can be rigged by an evil, omniscient, puppet-master but it is difficult to argue against the notion that yesterday the Jets--whether the players realized it or not--were coached into the tank.
I thought Gregg Williams having the eighth rusher spy the RB before rushing was a really nice touch.

Just exquisite tanking. Marvelous.

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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:37 pm

tunch wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:31 pm
Steeler Owl wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:45 pm
I just dont see how the entire NFL can be rigged by an evil, omniscient, puppet-master but it is difficult to argue against the notion that yesterday the Jets--whether the players realized it or not--were coached into the tank.
I thought Gregg Williams having the eighth rusher spy the RB before rushing was a really nice touch.

Just exquisite tanking. Marvelous.
Haha.
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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:50 pm

ya if i was a jets fan, i woulda been cheering along with the raiders

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Post by steelcountry » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:19 pm

That catch and run by Noah Fant on the final Broncos' offensive play of the first half was a huge turning point. He has a blocker in front but did a terrible job of using his blocker to get by Mathieu. He might have come close to scoring a TD. Broncos would have been up by at least a TD if he gets by Mathieu as opposed to being up by 1 at half.

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