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Post by Steelperch » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:22 pm

Miami offering 4th, 6th, 7th round picks for a 3rd



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Post by ol skool » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:35 pm

Patriots offering 4.120 and 4.139

Should be worth a pick in the 90-95 range.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:39 pm

The Raiders are very happy with their draft so far.

- 3 day 1 starters and very likely a strong push for package snaps from another.

- The Raiders see 4 likely C2 players so far

- All 4 are position/scheme versatile and could easily end up as the best at their positions in the league

- 4 players perfectly suited to beat AFC West opponents
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:43 pm

About to blow the 2021 SteelerFury draft way TF up. :!: :!: :?:

Hold on.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:50 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
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About to blow the 2021 SteelerFury draft way TF up. :!: :!: :?:

Hold on.
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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:01 am

ol skool wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:35 pm
Patriots offering 4.120 and 4.139

Should be worth a pick in the 90-95 range.
Check your PM ol skool
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:08 am

3.90 is up for trade

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Post by Mick » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:08 am

Vikings had a lot of problems to address this offseason, CB/DT/OG/EDGE/S etc.

We’ve now added Dalvin Tomlinson, Patrick Peterson, and David DeCastro in FA/trades, allowing us to go after Rousseau and Cisco as special talents in this class that happened to be BPAs at other positions of need.

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Post by ol skool » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:11 am

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:01 am
ol skool wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:35 pm
Patriots offering 4.120 and 4.139

Should be worth a pick in the 90-95 range.
Check your PM ol skool
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:11 am

Mick wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:08 am
Vikings had a lot of problems to address this offseason, CB/DT/OG/EDGE/S etc.

We’ve now added Dalvin Tomlinson, Patrick Peterson, and David DeCastro in FA/trades, allowing us to go after Rousseau and Cisco as special talents in this class that happened to be BPAs at other positions of need.
I think it was a good trade for both sides. Steelers free enough enough cap to add a nice player or two, and it’s at least 50/50 whether DeCastro is in decline or can regain his form from before 2019-20.

I asked 3 people whose opinion I trust whether I should take the deal and the responses ranged from “definitely” to “oh yeah!”

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Post by ol skool » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:14 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:11 am
Mick wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:08 am
Vikings had a lot of problems to address this offseason, CB/DT/OG/EDGE/S etc.

We’ve now added Dalvin Tomlinson, Patrick Peterson, and David DeCastro in FA/trades, allowing us to go after Rousseau and Cisco as special talents in this class that happened to be BPAs at other positions of need.
I think it was a good trade for both sides. Steelers free enough enough cap to add a nice player or two, and it’s at least 50/50 whether DeCastro is in decline or can regain his form from before 2019-20.
This is most un-Steelerlike.

I applaud you. Shakes things up.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:17 am

You know what’s weird, @ol skool... I’m a little surprised the Steelers haven’t done anything with Decastro’s contract AND they added a starter-capable guard without announcing it yet. It made me wonder if they are at least considering moving him. The Patriots would—sell before the decline is confirmed.

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Post by ol skool » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:18 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:17 am
You know what’s weird, @ol skool... I’m a little surprised the Steelers haven’t done anything with Decastro’s contract ANd they added a starter-capable guard but not announcing it yet. It made me wonder if they are at least considering moving him. The Patriots would—sell before the decline is confirmed.
Certainly.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:23 am

I would love to unload DeCastro
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Post by ol skool » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:35 am

After drafting McNeill the Pats are still looking to move into Round 3 once again.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:23 am

Pabst and the Buffalo Bills kindly send their compatriots the New York Jets and @FC a big bag of dicks. Enjoy!

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Post by tbsteel » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:17 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:17 am
You know what’s weird, @ol skool... I’m a little surprised the Steelers haven’t done anything with Decastro’s contract AND they added a starter-capable guard without announcing it yet. It made me wonder if they are at least considering moving him. The Patriots would—sell before the decline is confirmed.
A 31-year-old guard on a one year deal with his cap hit? Probably another Nelson situation where they would just cut him. Doubt anyone would offer to trade for him at this point, even if they got DeCastro to agree to re-work his contract to let the Steelers take on more dead money and lessen the cap hit for the team taking him on.
*roots for losses*

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:33 pm

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:17 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:17 am
You know what’s weird, @ol skool... I’m a little surprised the Steelers haven’t done anything with Decastro’s contract AND they added a starter-capable guard without announcing it yet. It made me wonder if they are at least considering moving him. The Patriots would—sell before the decline is confirmed.
A 31-year-old guard on a one year deal with his cap hit? Probably another Nelson situation where they would just cut him. Doubt anyone would offer to trade for him at this point, even if they got DeCastro to agree to re-work his contract to let the Steelers take on more dead money and lessen the cap hit for the team taking him on.
Same situation as Gabe Jackson, which was model for our trade terms

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Post by sheppamj » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:38 pm

Hello. Chicago is interested in trading 2 6th rounders for a 4th rounder. Anyone interested?

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:49 pm

Sorry I meant Rodney Hudson

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Post by tbsteel » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:56 pm

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:17 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:17 am

A 31-year-old guard on a one year deal with his cap hit? Probably another Nelson situation where they would just cut him. Doubt anyone would offer to trade for him at this point, even if they got DeCastro to agree to re-work his contract to let the Steelers take on more dead money and lessen the cap hit for the team taking him on.
Same situation as Gabe Jackson, which was model for our trade terms
Gabe Jackson has two years left on his current deal, DeCastro is just signed through 2021, same as Nelson was.

That's a pretty huge difference in value in trading for two years of Gabe Jackson vs. one year of DeCastro. Jackson's cap hit is about a third less of DeCastro's and more workable as well. Maybe we'd get a conditional sixth or seventh for DeCastro, but that would be best case IMO and much more likely we'd just release him if they needed the cap relief.
*roots for losses*

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:06 pm

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:56 pm
tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:17 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:17 am

A 31-year-old guard on a one year deal with his cap hit? Probably another Nelson situation where they would just cut him. Doubt anyone would offer to trade for him at this point, even if they got DeCastro to agree to re-work his contract to let the Steelers take on more dead money and lessen the cap hit for the team taking him on.
Same situation as Gabe Jackson, which was model for our trade terms
Gabe Jackson has two years left on his current deal, DeCastro is just signed through 2021, same as Nelson was.

That's a pretty huge difference in value in trading for two years of Gabe Jackson vs. one year of DeCastro. Jackson's cap hit is about a third less of DeCastro's and more workable as well. Maybe we'd get a conditional sixth or seventh for DeCastro, but that would be best case IMO and much more likely we'd just release him if they needed the cap relief.
Rodney Hudson. was the comp I was looking for. Also, you can keep Decastro for another year at that price... franchise tender is right around what he's making. And it's going to Tampa Bay, which is clearly in win-now mode.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:08 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:06 pm
tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:56 pm
tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:17 pm

Same situation as Gabe Jackson, which was model for our trade terms
Gabe Jackson has two years left on his current deal, DeCastro is just signed through 2021, same as Nelson was.

That's a pretty huge difference in value in trading for two years of Gabe Jackson vs. one year of DeCastro. Jackson's cap hit is about a third less of DeCastro's and more workable as well. Maybe we'd get a conditional sixth or seventh for DeCastro, but that would be best case IMO and much more likely we'd just release him if they needed the cap relief.
Rodney Hudson. was the comp I was looking for. Also, you can keep Decastro for another year at that price... franchise tender is right around what he's making. And it's going to Tampa Bay, which is clearly in win-now mode.
You're trading him for a year of Super Bowl contender v alue, plus either franchise rights or a certain high comp pick. It makes sense for a team like Tampa Bay who doesn't have time to get a rookie up to speed.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:34 pm

Raiders offering 3 players for a pick here....pm me
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:38 pm

Cmon on down to the The Crazy Raider and make your deal today !!!!

4 players for a pick here folks.. Thats right 4 !!!!
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Post by Mick » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:59 pm

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:56 pm
tbsteel wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:17 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:17 am

A 31-year-old guard on a one year deal with his cap hit? Probably another Nelson situation where they would just cut him. Doubt anyone would offer to trade for him at this point, even if they got DeCastro to agree to re-work his contract to let the Steelers take on more dead money and lessen the cap hit for the team taking him on.
Same situation as Gabe Jackson, which was model for our trade terms
Gabe Jackson has two years left on his current deal, DeCastro is just signed through 2021, same as Nelson was.

That's a pretty huge difference in value in trading for two years of Gabe Jackson vs. one year of DeCastro. Jackson's cap hit is about a third less of DeCastro's and more workable as well. Maybe we'd get a conditional sixth or seventh for DeCastro, but that would be best case IMO and much more likely we'd just release him if they needed the cap relief.
Rodney Hudson is a bit older than DeCastro and it’s not obvious that two years left on contract for someone in their 30s is a huge advantage over one year. Among other things, i expect with one year left it shouldn’t be an issue working out a a voidable extension with DeCastro to get rid of his cap hit for this year; that ‘s a tougher negotiation with someone who has multiple years left.

Anyway, Vikings had 10 picks and don’t expect more than maybe five draftees to make the 53. DeCastro is due for about 1M less than Hudson this year, which is also nice for cap purposes. And mostly it comes down to how you view the players; DeCastro’s been probowl and/or allpro the last six seasons. Vikings #1 need going into the draft may have been OG, and it’s hard to rely on rookie big men on either side of the line. Could always go with the Steeler Way of “sign a scrub, and hope a late round draft pick turns out to be a steal or usually just muddle through the season with awful play at that position”, but that’s not the Viking plan.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:34 pm

Listen folks.....the Raiders will talk about ......FOUR......players that WILL make your roster.....players that WILL improve your team.....

FOUR players for 1 pick here.......this should be easy.....particularly for those of you really trying to improve your team

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Post by ol skool » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:40 pm

I pm’d you in the GroupMe chat. Let’s talk multiple picks if the player/players fit.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:06 pm

ol skool wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:40 pm
I pm’d you in the GroupMe chat. Let’s talk multiple picks if the player/players fit.
@ol skool group me pm doesnt seem to be working for me ?? I PM'd you here at SF
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Post by ol skool » Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:12 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:06 pm
ol skool wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:40 pm
I pm’d you in the GroupMe chat. Let’s talk multiple picks if the player/players fit.
@ol skool group me pm doesnt seem to be working for me ?? I PM'd you here at SF
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