Round 1 pick: Kenny Pickett

[gojira5150]

Be hilarious if Trubisky impresses.

I believe this will happen. Could be the next Rich Gannon. They are treating Trubisky like a slug. A slug doesn't make the Pro Bowl, a slug doesn't take Da Bears (who have an anemic offense) to 2 playoff games. He won more games than he's lost (I believe 29-21). Should have taken Linderbaum to anchor that O-Line for years to come. Grab Christian Watson if he's available with their 2nd Rd Pick.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I think Scunge is right. I wasn't a fan of QB early in this draft. I wanted to go 2nd round or later to limit the investment, but our core D superstars aren't getting any younger. Clearly KC and Tomlin wanted a QB who was ready to compete Day 1.

They punched a lottery ticket. Maybe Kenny is an Andy Dalton or a Cousins. But, if he's more than that, we could reap the benefits in a big way. Superbowls are still mostly being won by accurate QBs who spread the ball and process information quickly. It's a nice plus that Kenny has good size and is very mobile.

Let's see what he can do before we jump off the bridge.

Do you honestly think the Steelers are going to let Little Kenny start ??

[steelclan]

I think Scunge is right. I wasn't a fan of QB early in this draft. I wanted to go 2nd round or later to limit the investment, but our core D superstars aren't getting any younger. Clearly KC and Tomlin wanted a QB who was ready to compete Day 1.

They punched a lottery ticket. Maybe Kenny is an Andy Dalton or a Cousins. But, if he's more than that, we could reap the benefits in a big way. Superbowls are still mostly being won by accurate QBs who spread the ball and process information quickly. It's a nice plus that Kenny has good size and is very mobile.

Let's see what he can do before we jump off the bridge.

Do you honestly think the Steelers are going to let Little Kenny start ??

You are so boring and predictable lol. No matter who the PS selected you would've tossed a wobbler worthy of a 5-year-old and of course will spend the next weeks, months beating the dead horse into glue pulp. Thread after thread "Little Kenny!"

[DP39]

I'm settling in on the pick -- knowing that the Steelers "do what we do!" And, as frustrating as it is, I know I can't change that.

Do I wish they would've traded back to get extra picks? Sure, but I knew they wouldn't -- even though most could see it was a very viable option available to them this time. KC even said they had some calls from other teams wanting their spot, but hey, they like to keep it simple. Why waste all the energy educating yourself on what other teams will most likely do? They're extremely risk adverse and somewhat lazy, imo. A lot of FO's are playing chess while we're perfectly happy playing checkers come draft night, regarding making moves, imo.

While not a huge fan of last night's pick, we all knew the Steelers were gonna take a QB. If I've learned anything about them and the draft...it's all you have to do is listen to them, because they WILL tell you what they're going to do! Don't over think it.

I'm so glad it wasn't Willis, because I don't think he'll ever be a cerebral QB (or at least many years away from getting there). Pickett is by far the most pro-ready QB in this class; no doubt. My guess is that the combo of KC, Canada, Sullivan, (Whipple @ Pitt), and maybe even the Deuce himself talked Tomlin into taking Pickett over Willis or Ridder -- that and his deed desire to keep his no losing season streak alive...and thus his paycheck stealing.

I think KP is probably close to D. Carr with maybe slightly weaker arm strength, but more accuracy and anticipation. If he can become that pretty quickly, I'm ok with the pick. I can learn to live with it, I guess.

One last note on last night: I knew if we wanted Quay Walker we would have to take him at 20, because I knew that GB wanted him bad -- at 22 or 28. And, I still think Tomlin has nightmares about failing to replace Shazier -- it's his bugaboo, so to speak.

On to tonight. I hope that UGA WR Pickens' off field stuff/attitude makes him drop to our pick 52, because I think his talent is worth the risk.

[lifelongsteel]

To judge this pick you have to a model for judging success.

Willis > Pickett imo because I judge the pick as successful if your QB becomes a top 10 player at the position, because it's almost impossible to win consistently or win a SB without a top 10 QB.

Pickett is high floor low ceiling, which means he has a really good chance of turning into Kirk Cousins. I think the Steelers consider that a success. I consider that the worst kind of failure. Especially with 2 young mediocre QBs on the roster already.

Going into the 22 season the Steelers now have something like the 25th best QB in the league (Mitch), the 30th (Kenny) and the 50th (Mason)

I guess they will make up the difference with great schemes, game plans and game day coaching

[Steelperch]

To judge this pick you have to a model for judging success.

Willis > Pickett imo because I judge the pick as successful if your QB becomes a top 10 player at the position, because it's almost impossible to win consistently or win a SB without a top 10 QB.

Pickett is high floor low ceiling, which means he has a really good chance of turning into Kirk Cousins. I think the Steelers consider that a success. I consider that the worst kind of failure. Especially with 2 young mediocre QBs on the roster already.

Going into the 22 season the Steelers now have something like the 25th best QB in the league (Mitch), the 30th (Kenny) and the 50th (Mason)

I guess they will make up the difference with great schemes, game plans and game day coaching

This explains my frustrations as well. I see Pickett having a ceiling about the same as Trubisky has. So what was the point? The only way to win with a Flacco level mediocre QB is to have an otherwise flawless roster that catches fire at the right time like the Ravens and Eagles did. And those scenarios happen maybe once a decade or so. Steelers have an ancient D Line, only one really good player in the secondary, question marks at ILB, a patchwork o line, the weakest WR group they’ve had in a long time and few picks to build the roster out. They also happen to be in a division with two excellent young QBs and the Ravens who always draft well and have a talented roster. I’m resigned to the 2020’s being the 1980’s all over again.

As far as Pickett as a prospect goes, it’s rare to find a QB that is very mediocre for four years that suddenly gets good and becomes a great pro. He was impressive this year. Maybe he’s the exception. I just see a guy who will be somewhere between the 16th-25th best QB in the league for his career. Can’t imagine him developing into a top 10 type.

[Jobu]

#1 not Willis
#2 backup QB is the second most important position on the team
#3 Bibberty is obviously gone
#4 if he's a success somewhere else and Marino the Sequel we are suicidal

Down a pint, maytes, and cheer the fuck up

#5 his fiancée is hot! See Moneyball movie for baseball data about hot girlfriends and playing ability. See Ben R. for reasons to have a fiancée early on.
#6 his fiancée has Paterno in her last name…what says Pennsylvania football more than Pitt and Paterno?
#7 KP Duty doesn’t need to learn a new city…think of the extra bandwidth he will have for the playbook!
#8 KP might now have a big chip on his shoulder dropping to 20!

#9 Think of the puns his name allows for. When he scores a game-winning TD, we can call it Pickett's Charge. When he gets horribly sacked, we can say "they killed Kenny! The bastards!"

That made me laugh…good one!

[alancac98]

When viewing this pick, I think it sucks!!! I like to take a look at past QB classes, particularly last year. Where would Kenny have landed if he declared for the draft - no better than 5th round, but most likely an UDFA. Fast forward a year in an extremely weak QB class, and he is one of the top QB's. Now, lets look at the QB's coming out next year, where would Kenny be within that group of QB's - probably a 3rd rounder at best (could he squeak into the 2nd, slim possibility). Taking him in the first round is a waste of a top caliber draft pick. Yes, I am a trench guy - they should have ran up to the podium for Linderbaum! JMO

[Jobu]

I didn’t break the TV as I sat stunned …. I couldn’t believe Franco said that name

Pretty much my reaction. I was so certain it was going to be Willis. I was equally certain that Pickett wasn’t even on their radar. Shows what I know…

[Kodiak.]

Think of the puns his name allows for. When he scores a game-winning TD, we can call it Pickett's Charge. When he gets horribly sacked, we can say "they killed Kenny! The bastards!"

And if he's injury prone, then he's a Ken Doll

[BethlehemSteel]

Sideshow Mike

https://www.steelers.com/video/watch-to ... to-pickett

[SteelerDayTrader]

I think Scunge is right. I wasn't a fan of QB early in this draft. I wanted to go 2nd round or later to limit the investment, but our core D superstars aren't getting any younger. Clearly KC and Tomlin wanted a QB who was ready to compete Day 1.

They punched a lottery ticket. Maybe Kenny is an Andy Dalton or a Cousins. But, if he's more than that, we could reap the benefits in a big way. Superbowls are still mostly being won by accurate QBs who spread the ball and process information quickly. It's a nice plus that Kenny has good size and is very mobile.

Let's see what he can do before we jump off the bridge.

Do you honestly think the Steelers are going to let Little Kenny start ??

You are so boring and predictable lol. No matter who the PS selected you would've tossed a wobbler worthy of a 5-year-old and of course will spend the next weeks, months beating the dead horse into glue pulp. Thread after thread "Little Kenny!"

Your country has been ruled for thousands of years by people whose culinary expertise extends as far as boiled peas and drinking gin.

You will understand if I don’t value your take on the NFL.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_6d3JBBo4s

Lol

[cop1211]

At least it wasn’t Willis, they didn’t trade up, but I find it hard to believe they couldn’t have traded down, but we all know they never trade down.
I didn’t want any QB this year, I would have gone with Dax Hill.
Or traded up for Jordan Davis.
Hope for the best prepare for the worst, there are bigger things to worry about, the Steelers get what they deserve.

[Jobu]

Okay…after sleeping on it, and sobering up, (first thing I did this morning was check to see if my TV was still intact. It was. ) I’ve stepped away from the cliff. I’m willing to let this play out, mainly because we have no other choice, so let’s not label the kid a bust before he even puts a Steelers helmet on, just because he isn’t the pick that we wanted.
Who knows…he does have some nice positives in his game.

[Professor Half Wit]

Okay…after sleeping on it, and sobering up, (first thing I did this morning was check to see if my TV was still intact. It was. ) I’ve stepped away from the cliff. I’m willing to let this play out, mainly because we have no other choice, so let’s not label the kid a bust before he even puts a Steelers helmet on, just because he isn’t the pick that we wanted.
Who knows…he does have some nice positives in his game.

We can at least be hopeful about his QB IQ + his ability to apply it by processing what he sees, both of which are apparently quite high. And he has some nice leadership and determination. (And don't get ne started on Dobbs. Why people think he is a football genius because he is good at math is beyond me.)

Only two teams as far as I know have EVER gone from generational franchise to generation franchise back to back: 49ers Montant to Young, Packer Favre to Rodgers. Just does not happen.

[BouldernBun]

Be hilarious if Trubisky impresses.

I believe this will happen. Could be the next Rich Gannon. They are treating Trubisky like a slug. A slug doesn't make the Pro Bowl, a slug doesn't take Da Bears (who have an anemic offense) to 2 playoff games. He won more games than he's lost (I believe 29-21). Should have taken Linderbaum to anchor that O-Line for years to come. Grab Christian Watson if he's available with their 2nd Rd Pick.

I like having Trubisky on the roster. A solid move. BUT, the guy really gets down on himself when the going gets rough and his playing goes down the tubes to the point of no return. Granted just being the Bears QB is enough to wreck anyones career, but Steelers are going to get Pickett in there sooner than later.

[gojira5150]

Be hilarious if Trubisky impresses.

I believe this will happen. Could be the next Rich Gannon. They are treating Trubisky like a slug. A slug doesn't make the Pro Bowl, a slug doesn't take Da Bears (who have an anemic offense) to 2 playoff games. He won more games than he's lost (I believe 29-21). Should have taken Linderbaum to anchor that O-Line for years to come. Grab Christian Watson if he's available with their 2nd Rd Pick.

I like having Trubisky on the roster. A solid move. BUT, the guy really gets down on himself when the going gets rough and his playing goes down the tubes to the point of no return. Granted just being the Bears QB is enough to wreck anyones career, but Steelers are going to get Pickett in there sooner than later.

You're more than likely right. Hope KP can pull thru. I don't want to relieve the Malone years. Maybe Steelers has that in the back of their minds after Effing up and not taking Marino. Who knows

[Kodiak.]

I'll make a little prediction....

2022: Trubisky sucks. Let's see what Canada can do next year with Pickett
2023: Pickett sucks. Let's see what Canada can do with the right QB in his system
2024: OK, Tomlin & Co. finally fired

[Jobu]

I really doubt that the Steelers selected Pickett to make up for something they didn’t do nearly 4 decades ago!

[Professor Half Wit]

I really doubt that the Steelers selected Pickett to make up for something they didn’t do nearly 4 decades ago!

Agree. It's a totally absurd take. Not a single decision maker other than Arty Deuce (who would have been what, 28? 29?) remains?

[gojira5150]

I really doubt that the Steelers selected Pickett to make up for something they didn’t do nearly 4 decades ago!

I was being facetious. I should have put the Rolling Eyes emoji

[bradshaw2ben]

I like the pick, but I don't underestimate Trubisky.

This strikes me as so, so exactly what a Browns fan would post on one of their boards about whatever crappy QB they added that year.

[Professor Half Wit]

I like the pick, but I don't underestimate Trubisky.

This strikes me as so, so exactly what a Browns fan would post on one of their boards about whatever crappy QB they added that year.

Strikes me as what any fan of any team in search of a franchise QB might say on one of their boards about whatever QB they added that year.

[jewelsongs]

I like the pick, but I don't underestimate Trubisky.

This strikes me as so, so exactly what a Browns fan would post on one of their boards about whatever crappy QB they added that year.

Strikes me as what any fan of any team in search of a franchise QB might say on one of their boards about whatever QB they added that year.

This strikes me as I must feel better about Trubisky than you both do.

[Kodiak.]

This strikes me as so, so exactly what a Browns fan would post on one of their boards about whatever crappy QB they added that year.

It's going to be interesting to see if & when they get any help for the offense. I suppose if you're Trubisky maybe you move on to the NYG next year (when, of course, they draft a rookie). I think think the term is "being set up for failure"...

And barring a miraculous turnaround on OL, Pickett better PRAY he doesn't see the field this year. The current state of the offense is a career killer for any QB, but especially a rookie.

[Defense]

Steeler Fury - love the debate and fun we have in this forum. BUT the hate for Pickett just makes me laugh, as it's almost embarrassing.

Let's start with we aren't trying to replace Ben, hell even older Ben couldn't replace younger Ben.

The team dynamics have changed, and we are building accordingly. We have 2 first round QB picks on the roster.
We drafted the #1 running back available last year, and have the reigning defensive MVP.

Superbowls are won on the backs of men that are a team. Seldom does it get won solely by the leagues BEST quarterback alone.

Stop the nonsense and start loving the team again. We are spoiled beyond belief.

If you don't ride, get off the train.

[jewelsongs]

If you don't ride, get off the train.

+1000

[Jobu]

If you don't ride, get off the train.

+1000

RAH RAH RAH SIS BOOM BAH…YAAAAAAAY TEAM

[Professor Half Wit]

This strikes me as so, so exactly what a Browns fan would post on one of their boards about whatever crappy QB they added that year.

Strikes me as what any fan of any team in search of a franchise QB might say on one of their boards about whatever QB they added that year.

This strikes me as I must feel better about Trubisky than you both do.

You probably do. I certainly do not hate Trubisky and am excited for a legit QB competition.

[Orangesteel]

I really doubt that the Steelers selected Pickett to make up for something they didn’t do nearly 4 decades ago!

Do you? I don’t. Tomlin is a dunce.