Steelers vs Titans Game Comments & Bedwetting

[LakecrestSteeler]

They both suck and one gives you consistent effort? Best explanation I’ve got.

Here's my biggest problem with Claypool: when you watch real players, real competitors, missed opportunities destroy them. Claypool quits on a free ball and there's no emotion. Makes excuses to costing his team time at the end of the game.

He simply doesn't care enough to be great, or even good. And the last few games they have featured him, which creates a net negative. Needs to be benched permanently. They are running their offense thru a jag thinking he's a star, and he's not. It's costing them.

Who the hell is going to provide his production? Your crazy if you think there is anyone else that can do what he does.

[Jobu]

Any chance to defend the turd you jump on.

Set the defense ?

It was 4th & 1.

They were going to run it down our throats. Again.

There play call is obvious there.

The odds of picking up the fourth down are already pretty high. Having the ability to stop the clock in case you are scored on is paramount.

Okay. But what if they were so out of position to give up a TD?

It’s mind boggling that you don’t understand that that is 100% piss poor coaching, no matter how you look at it.

[Jizz Mop]

Defenders at this point here?

Two, three?

[TTP]

why the fuck is Claypool benched for Washington..Tomlin you dumb motherrfucker

They both suck and one gives you consistent effort? Best explanation I’ve got.

Claypool is a fucking idiot and does some stupid shit but he has talent. If you cant see that, nevermind i know you can

Claypool is getting scapegoated a bit. Sure, he's an idiot and has been disappointing this year. But, he's pretty far down the list of issues with this team. The Steelers get dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball week after week yet 75% of the commentary is about Claypool acting a fool.

[Texas Black & Gold]

They gave it all to Heyward.

Watt was too busy getting held by two guys to get the 1/2 sack.

They changed the official scoring and gave Watt the 1/2 sack.

Yes, I just heard that on SNR. Way to go Watt.

[Jizz Mop]

They both suck and one gives you consistent effort? Best explanation I’ve got.

Claypool is a fucking idiot and does some stupid shit but he has talent. If you cant see that, nevermind i know you can

Claypool is getting scapegoated a bit. Sure, he's an idiot and has been disappointing this year. But, he's pretty far down the list of issues with this team. The Steelers get dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball week after week yet 75% of the commentary is about Claypool acting a fool.

So true

We are manhandled on both sides of the ball

[beerbrother]

They both suck and one gives you consistent effort? Best explanation I’ve got.

Here's my biggest problem with Claypool: when you watch real players, real competitors, missed opportunities destroy them. Claypool quits on a free ball and there's no emotion. Makes excuses to costing his team time at the end of the game.

He simply doesn't care enough to be great, or even good. And the last few games they have featured him, which creates a net negative. Needs to be benched permanently. They are running their offense thru a jag thinking he's a star, and he's not. It's costing them.

Who the hell is going to provide his production? Your crazy if you think there is anyone else that can do what he does.

I think they need to hire Urban Meyer to kick him in the ass.

He is talented. Needs someone to chew his ass a bit when he does boneheaded shit.

[drmalba]

What a play by Haden. Baller.

What does Haden do that makes this defense so much better?

I can’t figure it out, but they fall to pieces when he is out!

He must chew ass in the huddle on top of locking people down.

Well for starters, he is apparently one of the few people in the secondary that can actually tackle against the run. Second, his hands are better than everybody back there not named Minkah. Even when he gets beat he can sometimes make the play because he has deceptive make up speed and good technique. In short, he's one of our most consistent and underrated players on defense when he is on the field and we will miss him when he is gone.

[Kodiak.]

Who the hell is going to provide his production? Your crazy if you think there is anyone else that can do what he does.

You fell right into the trap.

Your first mistake is assuming his "production" is anything special, much less "irreplaceable". And your second mistake is missing that, in an effort to get him engaged and rolling, it's actually counterproductive and hurting their offense.

He's a net negative. I'm not picking on him, it's a fact. He's the Devin Bush of the offense. Truly.

[Texas Black & Gold]

The odds of picking up the fourth down are already pretty high. Having the ability to stop the clock in case you are scored on is paramount.

Okay. But what if they were so out of position to give up a TD?

It’s mind boggling that you don’t understand that that is 100% piss poor coaching, no matter how you look at it.

I can see where it would have been advantageous to call time outs if the offense was remotely functioning like a team. I really think even if Tomlin called the time outs and they got the ball back with a minute they were NOT going to move the ball. The Tits let them have those yards that led to the miss FG.

[Mick]

They both suck and one gives you consistent effort? Best explanation I’ve got.

Claypool is a fucking idiot and does some stupid shit but he has talent. If you cant see that, nevermind i know you can

Claypool is getting scapegoated a bit. Sure, he's an idiot and has been disappointing this year. But, he's pretty far down the list of issues with this team. The Steelers get dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball week after week yet 75% of the commentary is about Claypool acting a fool.

2 of our 3 d-liners and 5 of our 5 o-linemen are players that were not expected to be anything more than backup level talent this year. Yes, they’re worse than claypool, and they are our biggest problem, but claypool was actually supposed to be a good player for us.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Who the hell is going to provide his production? Your crazy if you think there is anyone else that can do what he does.

You fell right into the trap.

Your first mistake is assuming his "production" is anything special, much less "irreplaceable". And your second mistake is missing that, in an effort to get him engaged and rolling, it's actually counterproductive and hurting their offense.

He's a net negative. I'm not picking on him, it's a fact. He's the Devin Bush of the offense. Truly.

I’d blame it more on the lack of run game and OC than Claypool.

[Kodiak.]

Yes, they’re worse than claypool, and they are our biggest problem, but claypool was actually supposed to be a good player for us.

<60 yards per game and ONE touchdown all year. What production?!?!?! He's a fucking JAG, and a jagoff to boot.

[PennyBacker]

That’s a lot of words for ‘Yes, I am.’

Tomlin challenged his special teams to come through for the struggling offense. I like that confidence. Even if it didn't pay off.

I’m not indulging this. More time on the clock = more plays to get in better FG range. We disagree.

In this instance, you and I disagree.

Just to be clear though, generally I would agree with the concept of trying to get an offense as many snaps as possible. But not the Pittsburgh offense in that spot today.

The above established, Tomlin's explanation of why he didn't call time out doesn't sound exactly the same as why I wouldn't have.

My reasoning for not taking a timeout would have been b/c Tennessee had 3 timeouts and the Pittsburgh offense was going nowhere that half. The possibility, if not probability, that the Titans would get the ball back and have at least one timeout was too great from my perspective. In other words, the Titans were more likely to score again in that "saved" time than Pittsburgh.

Tomlin did say that he wanted the Titans to decide whether they wanted to use a time out, but the rest of the explanation didn't match up with my perspective.

And I don't begrudge not wanting to indulge such an opinion. Probably 99 times out of 100 it makes sense to conserve time in similar situations. This looks like the one time.

[Kodiak.]

I’d blame it more on the lack of run game and OC than Claypool.

Then you're just not watching the player enough.

Like someone else said about Najee "like to see him behind a real OL". They aren't seeing all the jag-ish stuff he's doing that makes him so pedestrian. He's not a future HOFer behind a shit line, he's a jag behind a shit line.

The desire, effort and brains just aren't there with Claypool. He's never going to get better, and he's not nearly as good as most think he is.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I’d blame it more on the lack of run game and OC than Claypool.

Then you're just not watching the player enough.

Like someone else said about Najee "like to see him behind a real OL". They aren't seeing all the jag-ish stuff he's doing that makes him so pedestrian. He's not a future HOFer behind a shit line, he's a jag behind a shit line.

The desire, effort and brains just aren't there with Claypool. He's never going to get better, and he's not nearly as good as most think he is.

We have seen what Conner has done this year.

Najee was met in the backfield all day. Did he make mistakes? Sure, but they were contact mistakes in the backfield.

If Najee is a jag then he is behind Mt Jag, the tallest jag in the world, located in the Jagalaya mountain range!

[Greeksteel]

Yes, they’re worse than claypool, and they are our biggest problem, but claypool was actually supposed to be a good player for us.

<60 yards per game and ONE touchdown all year. What production?!?!?! He's a fucking JAG, and a jagoff to boot.

I remember reading how Manny Sanders sucked too and he had a pretty good career post Steelers and Claypool is much more talented than him. Claypool is no jag, he hasnt helped himself sure but he is talented. Big mistake if the Steelers actually write him off like many here have.

[steelmann58]

The Offense started terrible again and it’s time that Canada gets called on this. This offense does not go anywhere or do anything. It seems like they wait until they are down again and again and watch if Ben can do something

[Jobu]

The Offense started terrible again and it’s time that Canada gets called on this. This offense does not go anywhere or do anything. It seems like they wait until they are down again and again and watch if Ben can do something

Sorry, but that’s on Tomlin. This offense struggles week after week after week…but they run the same game plan out their every game. At some point, the head coach must do something to fix this. Yet…

[Kodiak.]

I remember reading how Manny Sanders sucked too and he had a pretty good career post Steelers and Claypool is much more talented than him.

Yeah, and I was one of those Manny Sanders defenders. He was clearly a talented receiver being misused. Claypool not so much.

Claypool is simply too dumb and lazy to reach the potential you believe he has. If you want to establish a culture of losing, then by all means fill your locker room with guys like Claypool.

[steelmann58]

Jobu think adding a vet Wr would help

[steelmann58]

The Offense started terrible again and it’s time that Canada gets called on this. This offense does not go anywhere or do anything. It seems like they wait until they are down again and again and watch if Ben can do something

Sorry, but that’s on Tomlin. This offense struggles week after week after week…but they run the same game plan out their every game. At some point, the head coach must do something to fix this. Yet…

Jobu I totally agree especially with 10 days before this game

[El Kabong]

Interesting. A long pass down the sideline to a receiver with one on one coverage on 3rd and 2.

[El Kabong]

Always fun to see Brady frustrated.

[AirRescueFF]

https://twitter.com/steelers/status/147 ... ete-b-s%2F

[El Kabong]

And a deep pass on 4th and 1.

[jeemie]

So Tomlin’s timeout decision came down to “time pressure” again.

Sigh…I’m sure he thinks the defense held the Titans to a FG because they had to “make decisions from second down to third down” with the clock running.

He’s never getting out of the 2008 mindset. Always about helping his defense or trusting his defense rather than trying to build his offense.

[zeke5123]

So Tomlin’s timeout decision came down to “time pressure” again.

Sigh…I’m sure he thinks the defense held the Titans to a FG because they had to “make decisions from second down to third down” with the clock running.

He’s never getting out of the 2008 mindset. Always about helping his defense or trusting his defense rather than trying to build his offense.

Did anyone ask him why there would be any time pressure since .... the Titans could call a timeout?

I really think Tomlin believes that you can call better calls out of timeout. Doubt that is true.

[zeke5123]

So Tomlin’s timeout decision came down to “time pressure” again.

Sigh…I’m sure he thinks the defense held the Titans to a FG because they had to “make decisions from second down to third down” with the clock running.

He’s never getting out of the 2008 mindset. Always about helping his defense or trusting his defense rather than trying to build his offense.

Sorry Jeemie. One more response. Tomlin's singular game management problem is that he is solely trying to optimize for the next play (or the series). The problem is he will make decisions that provide marginal benefits on the current series at a huge cost for the next series.

[El Kabong]

I really think Tomlin believes that you can call better calls out of timeout.

Now that's interesting. So, according to Tomlin, if the clock is running, the opposing offense might make a mistake in play calling? And if they call a TO, then....that lets you set your defense to counter it?