Reg. Season #1: Steelers @ Patriots Game Comments

[franco32]

3 rookies on the oline and we couldn't do dick

Usually when a oline is bringing that to the table they're in trouble.

Can't even get excited when I see the opposing team is missing starters on the line. Just means we won't sniff their QB

Yeah...but most of that was quick throws. Secondary too loose and Brady and lots of space to make the quick throws.

[Legacy User]

To be honest, in spite of the loss, I don't feel terrible.

Offense is going to be the best offense we have had in decades.

Defense can't get worse. A lot of blown plays bc of confusion. Shazier is going to be special.

This is the worst situation to walk into on opening day and the best qb we will face. On the road. Week 1. With a lot of new faces on defense and a new scheme and two of our best players suspended.

I expected to get totally outclassed. In some ways, we did. But if we executed the basic stuff -- field goals, goal line play calls, for example -- it's a completely different game, even if everything else broke down the same way.

This team is going to be competitive versus every team that doesn't have a future hall of farmer under center. It won't always be pretty.

I agree. All things considered, their physical play was not bad. Must eliminate the mental errors though.

We've been saying this for what, 8 years now? At some point we need to acknowledge the fact this team is never going to be smart under Tomlin.

[Legacy User]

An away game opening night against the pumped up defending super bowl champions who just got their HOF QB back from a cheating suspension.

Lots of people thought the Pats would put up 40 easily, maybe even 50 again as they did against Lebeau.

That didn't happen, and had the Steelers not played Haleyball minus the points - this game was winnable.

All this without two serious weapons on offense.

[Steelknife]

I am curious to know what leads to the statement shazier will be special. He made a few tackles and other than that was poor IMO

He had more TFLs in one game than we had all of last season.

Exaggeration, but he flashed. Repeatedly. At certain points however they played him outside and he's simply not an olb. He doesn't have the pass rushing repertoire. His coverage needs to improve. That will come with time. But he reminds me a lot of a young polamalu. If he becomes even half of that, he will be a good one.

[AirRescueFF]

Patriot radio broadcast for most of the first half. Fucking ridiculous.

[Gonzo]

I respectfully disagree gentlemen. What upsets me most is the mental softness and that IMo we did not play "physically well". I saw DBs making half ass efforts. I see LBs content to chase. I see a team that seemed to have its shoulders down all night.

[steelmann58]

the lack of red zone scoring is not going away.

[R_S]

Brady got the ball out in 2 seconds most times. They could have put garbage cans at center and guard.

I mean, do people here know football at all? That's why I avoid these threads. To much stupidity.

[Legacy User]

Will Allen possible concussion.

Hoping he'll remember how to go after a football

[Gonzo]

I am curious to know what leads to the statement shazier will be special. He made a few tackles and other than that was poor IMO

He had more TFLs in one game than we had all of last season.

Exaggeration, but he flashed. Repeatedly. At certain points however they played him outside and he's simply not an olb. He doesn't have the pass rushing repertoire. His coverage needs to improve. That will come with time. But he reminds me a lot of a young polamalu. If he becomes even half of that, he will be a good one.

My problem form what I watched is he isnt an ILB either. He simpy,can't hold the middle or cover the middle. we shall see

[swissvale72]

To be honest, in spite of the loss, I don't feel terrible.

Offense is going to be the best offense we have had in decades.

Defense can't get worse. A lot of blown plays bc of confusion. Shazier is going to be special.

This is the worst situation to walk into on opening day and the best qb we will face. On the road. Week 1. With a lot of new faces on defense and a new scheme and two of our best players suspended.

I expected to get totally outclassed. In some ways, we did. But if we executed the basic stuff -- field goals, goal line play calls, for example -- it's a completely different game, even if everything else broke down the same way.

This team is going to be competitive versus every team that doesn't have a future hall of farmer under center. It won't always be pretty.

I'm with you Knife. The team scrapped on both sides of the ball. Everyone knew coming in that this wasn't a team that would hit its stride right out of the gate. Too many question marks and new faces.

Scoring a td on the first drive, making a couple field goals. Recovering that fumble. Correctable mistakes out there.

I'm predicting 11-5

All this may be true, Knife & RS....but remains the case that The Potted Fuckin' Plant Mike Tomlin is one DUMB mother fucker....awful fuckin' football coach.

[R_S]

I respectfully disagree gentlemen. What upsets me most is the mental softness and that IMo we did not play "physically well". I saw DBs making half ass efforts. I see LBs content to chase. I see a team that seemed to have its shoulders down all night.

I saw a team that fought back in the second half and made it a football game.

A defense that was confused at there assignments. Not lack of effort.

[RemoAZ]

We knew the D was pretty shitty...but I'm most disappointed in 3 things.

1. Red zone offensive play was shit. Almost 500 yards in offense and only 21 points to show for it. Offense has to be better knowing our D is mediocre at best.
2. Butler made ZERO adjustments in the middle of the game when the Pats were simply playing pitch and catch.
3. Tomlin's time management skills are horrific. Of course, he'll say he did fine.

Can't argue with any of those. Why we weren't attacking that O-line is beyond me. We were supposed to see a more aggressive D. DL could have been calling the plays tonight because it was the same defense we've been seeing with the same lack of talent to execute it.

[R_S]

To be honest, in spite of the loss, I don't feel terrible.

Offense is going to be the best offense we have had in decades.

Defense can't get worse. A lot of blown plays bc of confusion. Shazier is going to be special.

This is the worst situation to walk into on opening day and the best qb we will face. On the road. Week 1. With a lot of new faces on defense and a new scheme and two of our best players suspended.

I expected to get totally outclassed. In some ways, we did. But if we executed the basic stuff -- field goals, goal line play calls, for example -- it's a completely different game, even if everything else broke down the same way.

This team is going to be competitive versus every team that doesn't have a future hall of farmer under center. It won't always be pretty.

I'm with you Knife. The team scrapped on both sides of the ball. Everyone knew coming in that this wasn't a team that would hit its stride right out of the gate. Too many question marks and new faces.

Scoring a td on the first drive, making a couple field goals. Recovering that fumble. Correctable mistakes out there.

I'm predicting 11-5

All this may be true, Knife & RS....but remains the case that The Potted Fuckin' Plant Mike Tomlin is one DUMB mother fucker....awful fuckin' football coach.

Clock management was laughable, as usual. I will never make an excuse for that dumbshit.

[stairway 2 seven]

Chickenshit playcalling on offense. throw the ball on first down early in the game and then come back with the run game.

[Steelknife]

Also, Jarvis jones is terrible. Pass rushing is bad. Coverage even worse. Repeatedly failed to get wide when he had curl/flat responsibilities.

[Legacy User]

Brown was hardly celebrating. He was more saying Fuck you, to the Cheat fans. CHill the fuck out.

And they promptly laughed at him.

You can't say fuck you when your losing and scoring a garbage time touchdown.

SO what. He said fuck you. Win or lose, fuck that organization. He didn't dance. I support it. .

So what is exactly right - I doubt any of the fans he was jawing with are going away with anything but total laughter about how pathetic it was for Brown to engage them after a garbage time TD. It's a lose-lose move for Brown.

[Legacy User]

3 rookies on the oline and we couldn't do dick

Usually when a oline is bringing that to the table they're in trouble.

Can't even get excited when I see the opposing team is missing starters on the line. Just means we won't sniff their QB

Yeah...but most of that was quick throws. Secondary too loose and Brady and lots of space to make the quick throws.

And that's my problem. Get up on their receivers, TRY to disrupt them coming off the line so Brady will have to hold the ball a little while longer so the front 7 can get to him.

[Orangesteel]

Also, Jarvis jones is terrible. Pass rushing is bad. Coverage even worse. Repeatedly failed to get wide when he had curl/flat responsibilities.

You remember my thread. Hope nobody bought a jersey. He's dogshit bad. Horrible.

[R_S]

oh for christ sakes, you act like he did the Icky Shuffle.

[Steelers4Life]

Brady got the ball out in 2 seconds most times. They could have put garbage cans at center and guard.

I mean, do people here know football at all? That's why I avoid these threads. To much stupidity.

True, but you've got to get pressure up the middle against him.

And tighten up those 12 yard cushions.

[Gonzo]

I respectfully disagree gentlemen. What upsets me most is the mental softness and that IMo we did not play "physically well". I saw DBs making half ass efforts. I see LBs content to chase. I see a team that seemed to have its shoulders down all night.

I saw a team that fought back in the second half and made it a football game.

A defense that was confused at there assignments. Not lack of effort.

Blake and Allens tackling effort was atrocious
It's not pure lazy - that's exxagertwign. But it was not high moron effort IMO. It may well be the passive style they chose

[Legacy User]

Brady got the ball out in 2 seconds most times. They could have put garbage cans at center and guard.

I mean, do people here know football at all? That's why I avoid these threads. To much stupidity.

Yes, I don't think Brady got this second read all that much tonight... it was 3 steps and throw. As you say - a garbage can slows you down enough to prevent you from getting there in time.

[BethlehemSteel]

This is by far a direct result of the vanilla chickenshit in the preseason

[R_S]

Also, Jarvis jones is terrible. Pass rushing is bad. Coverage even worse. Repeatedly failed to get wide when he had curl/flat responsibilities.

You remember my thread. Hope nobody bought a jersey. He's dogshit bad. Horrible.

he didn't stand out as bad or good to me. Nobody was getting to the QB in 2 seconds. He did stack up Solder and have a TFL. That play was impressive.

[Legacy User]

oh for christ sakes, you act like he did the Icky Shuffle.

no he didn't go that far, thank god.

[stillcajun]

Boykin watched from the sidelines all night.



I'm being serious.

This is seriously unacceptable. You know he had to be seething inside watching guys screw the pooch over and over and he not even getting a chance.

Another bad move by Butler tonight.

[franco32]

I might be wrong, but we played very little man to man from my recollection. Free releases most of the night. That just isn't going to work against this dink and dunk bullshit.

That said...we basically pissed away 10 free points tonight. It was a very winnable game.

[bradshaw2ben]

Ben is Cutler without Brown.

haha go to bed... you're drunk or suffered a head injury

I'm just sick of Ben playing small against the patriots. Can we have a good game on offense for fucking once against this team? The offense was disappointing. The defense sucked as expected.

did ben jump offside on 1st & goal at the 1? Did he lollygag back to the line when then were trying to get plays off? Did he call that cluster fuck of a trick play or the grab bag of take the ball out of Ben's hands in the red zone that we just witnessed? Did he drop balls that went right straight through the receivers hands or catch a ball out of bounds with no one around you and the ball nowhere near the sideline? Did he miss 2 fucking FGs in dry September weather?

I know he missed a couple of throws but so did Brady. He's got Gronk and we decided not to cover him about half the time and did that while we were playing a TOP game with little margin for error... no defensive errors allowed and no Ben errors either.

I don't like the result and there is certainly plenty of ammunition for those who are going to say- same old shit as every year... but there's certainly hope for the season. It seems like this team could get better and yet they played the defending champs and their arch nemesis Brady and the unstoppable Gronk/Edelman-- tough for most of the game. A few stupid plays on O, D, & STs = a defeat in a game most thought they'd be blown out.

[R_S]

I respectfully disagree gentlemen. What upsets me most is the mental softness and that IMo we did not play "physically well". I saw DBs making half ass efforts. I see LBs content to chase. I see a team that seemed to have its shoulders down all night.

I saw a team that fought back in the second half and made it a football game.

A defense that was confused at there assignments. Not lack of effort.

Blake and Allens tackling effort was atrocious
It's not pure lazy - that's exxagertwign. But it was not high moron effort IMO. It may well be the passive style they chose

Blake was outclassed by Edelman. His tackling sucks too. Horribly. I don't think it was effort necessarily. But it was horrid.