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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:47 am

They were down 3 and it was 2nd down! That throw was all kinds of dumb... but he gets credit because he made the throw of a lifetime. Same deal here—Ben wasn’t about to trust the defense in the NFL circa 2020, and he had a WR running free with a LB running after him. He made a perfect throw to get it over the LB and drop it into JW’s hands in a way that made it nearly impossible to not catch.


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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:55 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:47 am
They were down 3 and it was 2nd down! That throw was all kinds of dumb... but he gets credit because he made the throw of a lifetime. Same deal here—Ben wasn’t about to trust the defense in the NFL circa 2020, and he had a WR running free with a LB running after him. He made a perfect throw to get it over the LB and drop it into JW’s hands in a way that made it nearly impossible to not catch.


ok. Lets take the SB out of this equation, not even remotely the same situation, and not what i cat=re to debate, and i agree that was was throw of all SBs. back to tonight/today, I dont care that its 2020 or 2030, the ravens were doing nothing, one fluke td...i was very comfortable punting if we needed to, that decision and throw, was not smart football. But it ended well. Thankfully.

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Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:55 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:47 am
They were down 3 and it was 2nd down! That throw was all kinds of dumb... but he gets credit because he made the throw of a lifetime. Same deal here—Ben wasn’t about to trust the defense in the NFL circa 2020, and he had a WR running free with a LB running after him. He made a perfect throw to get it over the LB and drop it into JW’s hands in a way that made it nearly impossible to not catch.


ok. Lets take the SB out of this equation, not even remotely the same situation, and not what i cat=re to debate, and i agree that was was throw of all SBs. back to tonight/today, I dont care that its 2020 or 2030, the ravens were doing nothing, one fluke td...i was very comfortable punting if we needed to, that decision and throw, was not smart football. But it ended well. Thankfully.
Call it one fluke moment, but this team's given up enough of them. I, personally, wasn't secure having a 4 point lead at that point in the game. We nearly lost the Cowboys game and the previous game against the Ravens after giving up the ball with 3 minutes left in each game. I had no faith that this team could hold the line at that point in time.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am

Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:33 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
im cringing even looking at the replays and knowing it ended well.

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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:36 am

Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:33 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
im cringing even looking at the replays and knowing it ended well.
hey it appears im in the minority with my opinion so maybe im wrong, but i dont think i am lol


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Post by Orangesteel » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:38 am

Orlovsky’s breakdown is pretty damn good. Ben had Snell line up wide to detect they were in man. Pre snap nobody was lined up on JW. Pretty easy decision given the defense. I think the “shocker” that it went to JW (instead of Claypool or JJSS) but big props to JW for making the most of his chance.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:41 am

I think we have all forgotten that Ben missed the whole week before the Jax game. I am sure practice was light going into Thanksgiving. I bet it has been a long time since they have had some solid practice with the full complement of QB and WRs with the start and stop after Thursday. They need to start getting some solid practices in, legs be damned.

BTW, Ben had 66 attempts in a 2017 39-38 victory over the Ravens!

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Post by steelmann58 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:44 am

great throw great catch enough said.

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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:50 am

i watched Orlovskys take, good stuff, even he says Ben catches a break with the lollipop throw. Listen it was really really well placed..and nice grab and well done hanging on to the ball but i still dont think that was a great decision. Anyway, im on to the WFT.

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Post by stillthere » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:53 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:41 am
I think we have all forgotten that Ben missed the whole week before the Jax game. I am sure practice was light going into Thanksgiving. I bet it has been a long time since they have had some solid practice with the full complement of QB and WRs with the start and stop after Thursday. They need to start getting some solid practices in, legs be damned.

BTW, Ben had 66 attempts in a 2017 39-38 victory over the Ravens!
The Steelers had 1 practice for this game in the last 10 days plus 2 walk throughs. Baltimore had 1 walk through. It is not like Pittsburgh was out there for 6 or 7 days getting crisp and working on things they want to clean up.

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Post by Kodiak » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:16 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
It was a dime
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Post by Jobu » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:53 am

Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:50 am
i watched Orlovskys take, good stuff, even he says Ben catches a break with the lollipop throw. Listen it was really really well placed..and nice grab and well done hanging on to the ball but i still dont think that was a great decision. Anyway, im on to the WFT.
I know Orlovsky called it a lollipop, but I don’t think he could’ve thrown it any other way and completed it. He had to drop it over the LB and in front of the safety, with another DB closing in.
That said, in real time I thought it was a pick...about shit my pants. NO...NO...NO......
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Post by K_C_ » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:40 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:56 pm
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in all honesty, they are not giving JW enough reps to really push Claypool and DJ
Washington had his drop today, too.
Drops, fumbles... man a horrid day for the receivers. Those guys seemed the most affected by lack of normality to this week's schedule.
Washington was pretty well covered on that play.

That drop was nothing like what we saw from.....pretty much every other receiver.

Washington had a bad drop in the Jacksonville game.
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Post by K_C_ » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:46 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
Great throw and perfect placement but still risky as fuck because the second that hit Washington's hands 2 Ravens were doing everything possible to make sure the ball didn't stay there.

Good thing Washington is a farmer who has gigantic ass mitts and has cows and all that shit. He didn't look very worried once he grabbed that ball.
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Anybody else’s booty tighten up a little when Ben threw that lob/dime to JW?!?!? 😂
The ball was in the bucket, great throw. Risky, hell yeah, it worked.

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Post by jebrick » Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:54 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
^^This^^

Collinsworth made it sound like Ben through the ball up for grabs. Look at the throw. It is one of the best touch throws in a tough situation. No one had a chance to catch that ball except for Washington. This is why you pay Ben for, those types of throws.
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Post by blu » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:41 pm

I always liked James Washington & if Claypool wasn't a rising star, JW would be more prevalent in the offence. Meanwhile, all's well that ends well.

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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:41 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:46 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
Great throw and perfect placement but still risky as fuck because the second that hit Washington's hands 2 Ravens were doing everything possible to make sure the ball didn't stay there.

Good thing Washington is a farmer who has gigantic ass mitts and has cows and all that shit. He didn't look very worried once he grabbed that ball.

Might sentiments exactly. If that throw gets picked off, the board has a Ben meltdown over that decision.

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Post by Greeksteel » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:57 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:41 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:46 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
Great throw and perfect placement but still risky as fuck because the second that hit Washington's hands 2 Ravens were doing everything possible to make sure the ball didn't stay there.

Good thing Washington is a farmer who has gigantic ass mitts and has cows and all that shit. He didn't look very worried once he grabbed that ball.

My sentiments exactly. If that throw gets picked off, the board has a Ben meltdown over that decision.

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Post by K_C_ » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:02 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:41 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:46 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:29 am
Truthfully, I’ll bet that throw looked a lot riskier from the side view than it did at field level/in reality.
Great throw and perfect placement but still risky as fuck because the second that hit Washington's hands 2 Ravens were doing everything possible to make sure the ball didn't stay there.

Good thing Washington is a farmer who has gigantic ass mitts and has cows and all that shit. He didn't look very worried once he grabbed that ball.

Might sentiments exactly. If that throw gets picked off, the board has a Ben meltdown over that decision.
Yep, no matter how great that throw was, Ben threw a fucking floater between 3 Raven defenders.

To a guy that spent 85% of the game on the bench.

Enough said.
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Post by Jobu » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:02 pm
Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:41 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:46 am


Great throw and perfect placement but still risky as fuck because the second that hit Washington's hands 2 Ravens were doing everything possible to make sure the ball didn't stay there.

Good thing Washington is a farmer who has gigantic ass mitts and has cows and all that shit. He didn't look very worried once he grabbed that ball.

Might sentiments exactly. If that throw gets picked off, the board has a Ben meltdown over that decision.
Yep, no matter how great that throw was, Ben threw a fucking floater between 3 Raven defenders.

To a guy that spent 85% of the game on the bench.

Enough said.
And that’s why the guy is great...because he makes winning throws like that. There are other QBs that wouldn’t attempt that throw in that situation...other QBs that couldn’t throw a rope to the front corner of the end zone on the final play of a game...other QBs that wouldn’t think about threading a dart through three pair of hands to win a Lombardi.
I’m glad he’s on our side!

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Post by K_C_ » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:48 pm

Jobu wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:02 pm
Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:41 pm



Might sentiments exactly. If that throw gets picked off, the board has a Ben meltdown over that decision.
Yep, no matter how great that throw was, Ben threw a fucking floater between 3 Raven defenders.

To a guy that spent 85% of the game on the bench.

Enough said.
And that’s why the guy is great...because he makes winning throws like that. There are other QBs that wouldn’t attempt that throw in that situation...other QBs that couldn’t throw a rope to the front corner of the end zone on the final play of a game...other QBs that wouldn’t think about threading a dart through three pair of hands to win a Lombardi.
I’m glad he’s on our side!
Absolutely agree that nobody but Roethlisberger and maybe Mahomes even attempts that throw and no question Ben is one of the greatest of all time.

I’m more talking about who he threw it to and what kind of balls that takes on both ends to make that play between 3 Ravens defenders. I believe Washington had 2, maybe 3 targets the entire game.

Unreal.
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Post by Jobu » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:52 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:48 pm
Jobu wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:02 pm


Yep, no matter how great that throw was, Ben threw a fucking floater between 3 Raven defenders.

To a guy that spent 85% of the game on the bench.

Enough said.
And that’s why the guy is great...because he makes winning throws like that. There are other QBs that wouldn’t attempt that throw in that situation...other QBs that couldn’t throw a rope to the front corner of the end zone on the final play of a game...other QBs that wouldn’t think about threading a dart through three pair of hands to win a Lombardi.
I’m glad he’s on our side!
Absolutely agree that nobody but Roethlisberger and maybe Mahomes even attempts that throw and no question Ben is one of the greatest of all time.

I’m more talking about who he threw it to and what kind of balls that takes on both ends to make that play between 3 Ravens defenders. I believe Washington had 2, maybe 3 targets the entire game.

Unreal.
Agreed.

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Post by COR-TEN » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:56 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:02 pm
Greeksteel wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:41 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:46 am


Great throw and perfect placement but still risky as fuck because the second that hit Washington's hands 2 Ravens were doing everything possible to make sure the ball didn't stay there.

Good thing Washington is a farmer who has gigantic ass mitts and has cows and all that shit. He didn't look very worried once he grabbed that ball.

Might sentiments exactly. If that throw gets picked off, the board has a Ben meltdown over that decision.
Yep, no matter how great that throw was, Ben threw a fucking floater between 3 Raven defenders.

To a guy that spent 85% of the game on the bench.

Enough said.
If BR dropped that pass anywhere else, it gets intercepted. A more direct pass? INT. Outside? Inside? INT. I couldn't believe it when I saw it.

And like I said, Washington is money in the bank. He's gonna walk in 2024 while everyone is cumming over Dionte Johnson's wiggle.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:20 am

K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:48 pm
Jobu wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:42 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:02 pm


Yep, no matter how great that throw was, Ben threw a fucking floater between 3 Raven defenders.

To a guy that spent 85% of the game on the bench.

Enough said.
And that’s why the guy is great...because he makes winning throws like that. There are other QBs that wouldn’t attempt that throw in that situation...other QBs that couldn’t throw a rope to the front corner of the end zone on the final play of a game...other QBs that wouldn’t think about threading a dart through three pair of hands to win a Lombardi.
I’m glad he’s on our side!
Absolutely agree that nobody but Roethlisberger and maybe Mahomes even attempts that throw and no question Ben is one of the greatest of all time.

I’m more talking about who he threw it to and what kind of balls that takes on both ends to make that play between 3 Ravens defenders. I believe Washington had 2, maybe 3 targets the entire game.

Unreal.
Dead in here! Fastball is one thing, 30 yard out route another, bomb at the end of the game....they all take guts, but the floater with the perfecto, and legacy on the line! Huge!

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Post by tbsteel » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:21 am

Don't like how Claypool looks.

Looks like he's hitting a rookie wall. Mentally he's not with it right now.

Johnson has always been a talented flake.

I'd work JW in more. Especially in contested catch situations since Johnson can hardly ever leave his feet to make a play and Claypool's ball tracking is pretty bad right now.
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Post by steelmann58 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:28 am

ben throw was right on and it was in a spot where Jw can make the catch.

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Post by Orangesteel » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:34 am

tbsteel wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:21 am
Don't like how Claypool looks.

Looks like he's hitting a rookie wall. Mentally he's not with it right now.

Johnson has always been a talented flake.

I'd work JW in more. Especially in contested catch situations since Johnson can hardly ever leave his feet to make a play and Claypool's ball tracking is pretty bad right now.
He’s still making some nice catches. But his route tree is boring as fuck. They need to get him attacking the middle of the field more and not just sideline jump balls. It’s more of the same stupid safe bullshit offense from Rustbelt Randy. Unless he’s saving a game plan for January...
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Post by Kodiak » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:17 am

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Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:56 pm
If BR dropped that pass anywhere else, it gets intercepted. A more direct pass? INT. Outside? Inside? INT. I couldn't believe it when I saw it.
Could be a new highpoint at throwing the ball, even for Ben. He's been a surgeon's surgeon, this year.

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