Odds we draft a QB in round 1

[DP39]

Tomlin sees the NFL trend of offensive rushing yards per attempt going up due to running QBs -- he desperately wants to be part of that. For the last few years, he grew tired of not having that in his offense with Ben. He boasts about being an "old-school guy." This should tell you all you need to know about his future QB.

[Gonzo]

Tomlin sees the NFL trend of offensive rushing yards per attempt going up due to running QBs -- he desperately wants to be part of that. For the last few years, he grew tired of not having that in his offense with Ben. He boasts about being an "old-school guy." This should tell you all you need to know about his future QB.

Never ahead of the game always late and 9-8

[Mick]

I’m not going to be a broken record about the negatives with Corral.

There is a big positive for him that will get me through such a draft: i don’t think we’ll have to worry about the team getting stuck spending years trying to decide whether to move on or not.

with carolina drafting a QB in the first last spring and waiving Corral yesterday, PFF’s (and many others) #1 QB of last year’s draft, this post is looking solid.

Self horn toot.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I’m not going to be a broken record about the negatives with Corral.

There is a big positive for him that will get me through such a draft: i don’t think we’ll have to worry about the team getting stuck spending years trying to decide whether to move on or not.

with carolina drafting a QB in the first last spring and waiving Corral yesterday, PFF’s (and many others) #1 QB of last year’s draft, this post is looking solid.

Self horn toot.

We are at 3 years for certain and possibly solidly 4 years, one could easily argue, if Kenny does just about average this year.

The time it would take to discard a round number 1 QB was always a big concern from several on this board.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Looks like FO faked out the NFL with Willis in 2022 but not more than they faked out this forum.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

Looks like FO faked out the NFL with Willis in 2022 but not more than they faked out this forum.

lol, thanks for the receipts lots of people probably wish this thread would be deleted.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

And Willis was benched for Josh Dobbs.

[Steelcody7]

I fell for the Willis hype too, luckily the Steelers didn't.

[jeemie]

Looks like FO faked out the NFL with Willis in 2022 but not more than they faked out this forum.

lol, thanks for the receipts lots of people probably wish this thread would be deleted.

Well if I was B2B… if I am still talking to the Steelers’ insider that told me the Steelers had “zero interest in Kenny Pickett”…I’d be telling him “Nice knowing you…never asking you for a scoop again”.

That’s the post that stuck out to me…

[Mick]

Looks like FO faked out the NFL with Willis in 2022 but not more than they faked out this forum.

lol, thanks for the receipts lots of people probably wish this thread would be deleted.

Well if I was B2B… if I am still talking to the Steelers’ insider that told me the Steelers had “zero interest in Kenny Pickett”…I’d be telling him “Nice knowing you…never asking you for a scoop again”.

That’s the post that stuck out to me…

In his defense, the scouting report on pickett everywhere was similar. Walterfootball:

Kenny Pickett Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
Accurate passer
Tremendous pocket composure
Excellent decision maker
Fits passes into tight windows
Superb ball placement
Throws a very catchable ball
Can throw receivers open
Beats good coverage with accuracy, placement
Excellent timing
Leads receivers for more yardage after the catch
Able to loft in touch passes
Advanced field vision
Moves eyes through progressions
Quality arm
Can push the ball vertically
Phenomenal deep-ball accuracy
Can fire fastballs into tight windows
Good internal clock
Mastered his offense
Ball security
Mobility
Difficult to sack
Keeps his eyes downfield while scrambling
Can hurt defenses on the ground
Dangerous to pick up yards on the ground
Good height
Thick build for the next level
Good fit for a west coast offense
Rhythm thrower
Intangibles
Leadership
Student of the game
Leadership personality
Great preparation skills
Tough; plays injured
Hard worker


Weaknesses:
Smaller hands, wears gloves
Steelers know him better than anyone, and if they have 0 interest, why would anyone else?

[jeemie]

Well there you go.

Let’s not pretend the Steelers’ brass can’t throw up a smokescreen…

[Mick]

Well there you go.

Let’s not pretend the Steelers’ brass can’t throw up a smokescreen…

yeah maybe i edited the negatives part a bit. But i do think that was a big factor; the reports coming out of the normally sievelike steeler FO was that they knew Pickett very well and had no interest. I bet that was the biggest thing pushing him down boards.

[Stallworth16]

And Willis was benched for Josh Dobbs.

That’s not a knock on Willis. Josh Dobbs is just behind Ben and Terry as the 3rd best Steelers QB of all-time. I’m kidding, but I always liked Dobbs.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Well there you go.

Let’s not pretend the Steelers’ brass can’t throw up a smokescreen…

yeah maybe i edited the negatives part a bit. But i do think that was a big factor; the reports coming out of the normally sievelike steeler FO was that they knew Pickett very well and had no interest. I bet that was the biggest thing pushing him down boards.

Almost feels like PS FO’s smoke screen cost Pickett some money and his agent may need to recoup when it comes time.

Or maybe Pickett owes PS FO money for preventing him from going to a less than stellar organization.

[stillthere]

Almost feels like PS FO’s smoke screen cost Pickett some money and his agent may need to recoup when it comes time.

Or maybe Pickett owes PS FO money for preventing him from going to a less than stellar organization.

I am more in the 2nd option boat. The Steelers did him a solid by bringing him to a team that has a structure to help Kenny develop.

[955876]

Strengths:
Accurate passer
Tremendous pocket composure
Excellent decision maker
Fits passes into tight windows
Superb ball placement
Throws a very catchable ball
Can throw receivers open
Beats good coverage with accuracy, placement
Excellent timing
Leads receivers for more yardage after the catch
Able to loft in touch passes
Advanced field vision
Moves eyes through progressions
Quality arm
Can push the ball vertically
Phenomenal deep-ball accuracy
Can fire fastballs into tight windows
Good internal clock
Mastered his offense
Ball security
Mobility
Difficult to sack
Keeps his eyes downfield while scrambling
Can hurt defenses on the ground
Dangerous to pick up yards on the ground
Good height
Thick build for the next level
Good fit for a west coast offense
Rhythm thrower
Intangibles
Leadership
Student of the game
Leadership personality
Great preparation skills
Tough; plays injured
Hard worker


Weaknesses:
Smaller hands, wears gloves








Ummmm that is quite the list of positives vs a couple very questionable negatives. Is wearing gloves even a negative? Ben did fairly often.

Either that scouting report is overhyped or a shitload of teams missed the boat (by a lot) on KP.

I’m glad we have him. And I was in the camp of rolling with Trubisky for a year (hopefully sucking) and then drafting higher the following year.

Other than having a Mahomes, Allen, Herbert caliber arm what are his major weaknesses?

[langer]

When I saw that fake slide I knew he was a different cat. Ballsy maneuver.

I think he’s going to be a great QB. Better than Jimmy G and Douche Cousins.

He’s going to have to fight management I think. He seems to have enough cockiness to manage that.

[franco32]

I forgot how much I hated Malik Willis. I knew that would be a disaster. Imagine we had drafted Willis at 1.20 and someone else gets Kenny a few picks later?

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Zappe>Mason? Discuss

[Mick]

Ummmm that is quite the list of positives vs a couple very questionable negatives. Is wearing gloves even a negative? Ben did fairly often.

Either that scouting report is overhyped or a shitload of teams missed the boat (by a lot) on KP.

I’m glad we have him. And I was in the camp of rolling with Trubisky for a year (hopefully sucking) and then drafting higher the following year.

Other than having a Mahomes, Allen, Herbert caliber arm what are his major weaknesses?

the full (pre edit) Pickett weakness list was:
Weaknesses:
Good skill set, but not elite
Smaller hands, wears gloves
Can have a couple of mistaken decisions per game
One year wonder
Inconsistent anticipation
Inconsistent instincts passer

Compare to, say, the whole Jalen Hurts predraft scouting report:

Strengths:
Tough
Takes hits and doesn’t get hurt
Durable
Winner

Weaknesses:
Very limited passer
Struggles to see the field
Poor vision
Struggles to read defenses
Slow to work through progressions
Not an accurate passer
One-read quarterback
Arm strength is average
Personality issues

[Texas Steel]

Zappe>Mason? Discuss

I'd take that swap. As a UTSA fan (CUSA last year), I saw Zappe perform and he's got skills... he's rough and needs polishing, but would make a competent back-up, but not a #1.