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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:20 pm

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SP wrote:What is to stop the next elite Steelers player from following the AB model to get big money before their time? Why not JuJu next? You’re locked up on a contract you agreed to, but another player in the league gets more, just throw a fit and demand to be traded and require a new deal from the new team. 3 and 5 round picks for a top 10 talent in the league is gang rape. Spineless bastards.

They gave all of the power to a player under contract showing contacts aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on. Massive hole on the roster, no draft capital to fix it.


This post sums it up nicely. Person with no leverage dictated the whole outcome. His agent did the calling around to find the best fit. AB got out of his contract and a raise,picked his preferred landing spot and the compensation for the team he was leaving. Absurd, kind of a bizzaro world scenario. Kevin Colbert absolutely embarrassed himself and the organization. This is bad really really bad.

Why they did not tell him to sit his out and wait for the market to evolve, and yes take some financial pain is beyond me. I believe the franchise is worth north of a $billion so $20MM is literally the value of the change in your ash tray to them.

The future looks bleak.


the way to deal with it is the way the Pats deal with it

they have 3 guys from a super bowl winning team all leaving via FA this year - their best pass rusher, their starting LT, and Pro bowl kicker.

guess what - they will replace them all with equal or better production next year, guaranteed.

Pats know how to evaluate and stock up on talent

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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:23 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:I wonder if Gruden used KY Jelly?

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Post by Havoc » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:26 pm

Teams could have stepped up and topped the Raiders offer if they wanted to (other than the Bills)

Raiders are a team with no direction. They traded away 2 talented young players (ages 24 & 27) for drafted picks only to turn around and trade away draft picks for a 5'10" soon to be 31 yr old WR who started on the downside last season, a small WR who already lost a little quickness last year,

Raiders will not win a SB with AB on the roster.

I could see the Steelers galvanized, add some talent via draft and hopefully a FA, and improve on 9-6-1 next season.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:36 pm

Watching Espn,,,now the Raiders and Gruden are geniuses. Rosenhaus raving and roaring about Derek fucking Carr. Gruden wanted to trade Carr during this past season. I just cant believe how AB is this sympathetic figure on Espn. They totally ignore his non- football issues AND that he literally quit on his team. Wtf. Its all about how AB can relax now and go make magic with Carr. Randy Moss literally just said that. Most of these ex athlete media assholes sound like they are buddies with AB. Ryan Clark is the only guy i have heard say a bad word about him. Good thing is they can talk all this Raiders shit now but come mid October when they are 1-5 ABs name will be an afterthought.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:36 pm

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PIT gets 2019 3rd and 5th round pick for Antonio Brown a year after getting a 3 for Martavis Bryant. Not the return they wanted but he had to go and there wete few intereated teams. According to teams that spoke to PIT, BUF was prepared to swap 20 and 9 and deal 2 midround picks

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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:38 pm

Gruden didn't fleece the Steelers, Brown did....

The trade compensation — a third and a fifth going to the #Steelers — wasn’t an issue. Several teams were willing to give that or more. The contract was the issue. In the end, Antonio Brown got his old deal ripped up and redone, a rarity. His demands limited the pool to 1 team.

The Raiders gave Brown $30 million in new guaranteed money over the next three years, and the total value of his deal went from $39 million to $50 million. They were the only team willing to make that kind of financial commitment, and Brown likely just threatened to retire if the Steelers traded him to a team that wasn’t. https://larrybrownsports.com/football/t ... own/487301

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Post by AirRescueFF » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:38 pm

No Brown and Bell.

3rd, 5th, and $21M cap hit.

What's next? Tomlin extension?

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:39 pm

AirRescueFF wrote:No Brown and Bell.

3rd, 5th, and $21M cap hit.

What's next? Tomlin extension?



fuck me that would be the final knife in Steelers fans backs. (except for the few remaining Tomlin apologists)

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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:43 pm

PIT gets 2019 3rd and 5th round pick for Antonio Brown a year after getting a 3 for Martavis Bryant. Not the return they wanted but he had to go and there wete few intereated teams. According to teams that spoke to PIT, BUF was prepared to swap 20 and 9 and deal 2 midround picks https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/stat ... 9342277632
Holy Shit! Brown fucked that up for the Steelers and Won big. Dude may not have won a Super Bowl and may never win one but he kicked ass and took what he wanted from this deal. Again, Gruden didn't fleece the Steelers, Brown did. :oops:

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Post by Stosh-67 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:45 pm

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Steelers source emphasizes AB trade is agreement only and “it’s never over till it’s over.”

What the hell does this mean?
They will be filing some grievance with tampering?
Rosenhaus and mister db talking with other teams without permission?
Re-couping money paid to AB breach of contract?
A player also involved in trade coming back from Raiders that could not be announced until PS work out extension for said player?
The 3rd and 5th can be bumped up to a 2nd and 4th based on AB performance?
Steelers sending back their 6th as part of trade?
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Post by AirRescueFF » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:47 pm

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PIT gets 2019 3rd and 5th round pick for Antonio Brown a year after getting a 3 for Martavis Bryant. Not the return they wanted but he had to go and there wete few intereated teams. According to teams that spoke to PIT, BUF was prepared to swap 20 and 9 and deal 2 midround picks



Sickening, if that was the offer.

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Post by tbsteel » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:50 pm

Don’t believe La Canfora for a second. He’s worse than Rappaport.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:56 pm

AirRescueFF wrote:No Brown and Bell.

3rd, 5th, and $21M cap hit.

What's next? Tomlin extension?


Disgusting thought

But w Rooney’s, Rooney Rule, no losing seasons....looking like he coaches until he doesn’t want to

I would have shitcanned him immediately after ANOTHER loss to Oak this season

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:57 pm

the 3rd round pick is the 2nd pick in the third round - it's "almost" a late 2nd round pick

toss in the high 5th rounder, and this pushes up the overall value to a 2nd round pick for AB

AB for a 2nd round pick is just about right.

Colbert kept saying he wanted a 1st rounder, but no reasonable person saw that happening.

I'm satisfied with the 2nd round draft value we received for AB - because this is exactly what I was expecting from the beginning.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:58 pm

steel wrote:the 3rd round pick is the 2nd pick in the third round - it's "almost" a late 2nd round pick

toss in the high 5th rounder, and this pushes up the overall value to a 2nd round pick for AB

AB for a 2nd round pick is just about right.

Colbert kept saying he wanted a 1st rounder, but no reasonable person saw that happening.

I'm satisfied with the 2nd round draft value we received for AB - because this is exactly what I was expecting from the beginning.


Glass half-full type of guy huh?

They got fleeced

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:00 pm

AB is a 31 year old WR who wants $20M/year guaranteed

How many teams do you think would even sign him for that type of deal, PLUS give up a 2nd or 1st round draft pick??

Not many.

We got 2nd round draft pick value for AB -- an aging WR who spent his best years as a Steeler earning less than market value every single year.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:01 pm

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steel wrote:the 3rd round pick is the 2nd pick in the third round - it's "almost" a late 2nd round pick

toss in the high 5th rounder, and this pushes up the overall value to a 2nd round pick for AB

AB for a 2nd round pick is just about right.

Colbert kept saying he wanted a 1st rounder, but no reasonable person saw that happening.

I'm satisfied with the 2nd round draft value we received for AB - because this is exactly what I was expecting from the beginning.


Glass half-full type of guy huh?

They got fleeced


I don't see the fleecing given the situation. Please explain the alternative to me, which doesn't include keeping AB on our roster.

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Post by SteelPro » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:04 pm

I know the return sucked but the madness had to end. Brown became a cancer. You don’t fuck around with keeping cancer even one extra second.
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Post by Steelknife » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:21 pm

I've asked many times, but I see more bedwetting here, so I'll ask again.

What did you expect the Steelers to do? Holding on to him and making him sit after he burned so many locker room bridges was never a tenable situation or realistic possibility. It's a business and spite doesn't help you win, especially when he's burned bridges with the other most important players on the team and the coaching staff.

So short of that, and with AB blowing up trades to destinations he didn't want to go, what did you want?

Frankly, I'm surprised they got what they did.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:21 pm

How does everyone know we got rid of the cancer? We got rid of the ugly tumor, but this shit may have metastasized throughout the team.

And with the 3 ring circus of tomlin, colbert and art2, it feels like this patient will keep smoking 2 packs a day anyway.

A 3rd and a 5th to fix any issues is like a tylenol and bottle of jack to numb the pain for a bit.

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Post by K_C_ » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:24 pm

BarryFoster wrote:
steel wrote:the 3rd round pick is the 2nd pick in the third round - it's "almost" a late 2nd round pick

toss in the high 5th rounder, and this pushes up the overall value to a 2nd round pick for AB

AB for a 2nd round pick is just about right.

Colbert kept saying he wanted a 1st rounder, but no reasonable person saw that happening.

I'm satisfied with the 2nd round draft value we received for AB - because this is exactly what I was expecting from the beginning.


Glass half-full type of guy huh?

They got fleeced


Let's see how these picks pan out and how AB reacts to playing with an inferior QB.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:30 pm

All this optimism is going to be for naught. Sorry to bust that bubble but as long as Coach Numbnutz is here we are not winning JackS**T. They just got bent over with NO Vaseline. This feeling of them taking these 2 picks and getting another JuJu is laughable, it's likely that Crappy 3rd will be the next Dri Archer and the 5th will be a long snapper. They let another player dictake their future. One was still under contract and the team is on the hook for $20 mil. They will not spend any money in FA and will get bottom of barrel left over as usual.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:31 pm

The deal can't be officially consummated until the start of the new league year, which I believe is March 13th at 4pm Eastern.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:32 pm

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Antonio Brown's agent Drew Rosenhaus says on @nflnetwork he received permission to speak to the #Raiders about 48 hours ago. Also playfully asks us to take Mike Mayock back because he drove a hard bargain. Says he was "sharp."

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Post by KCSteeler » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:41 pm

Tomlin and Colbert would fuck up a two car parade. Why anyone is surprised by this outcome is beyond me.
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Post by jeemie » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:42 pm

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Antonio Brown's agent Drew Rosenhaus says on @nflnetwork he received permission to speak to the #Raiders about 48 hours ago. Also playfully asks us to take Mike Mayock back because he drove a hard bargain. Says he was "sharp."


Throwing shade at EMR/KC on the way out the door.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:18 pm

Will any of you be shocked if it turns out that Ben Roethlisberger went to Art and told him that AB is a piece of shit and that he, Ben, isn’t signing a damn thing unless AB is moved?

I know I would not.

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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:24 pm

KC wrote:
Let's see how these picks pan out and how AB reacts to playing with an inferior QB.


Thing about mr toe tap... that ball is another 2 or 3 inches more toward the sideline and he aint catching shit.


What's going to happen in that locker room if AB is somewhere in the middle of the pack in terms of wide receivers in this league.
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Post by K_C_ » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:25 pm

ToddHaleysNineIron wrote:
KC wrote:
Let's see how these picks pan out and how AB reacts to playing with an inferior QB.


Thing about mr toe tap... that ball is another 2 or 3 inches more toward the sideline and he aint catching shit.

What's going to happen in that locker room if AB is somewhere in the middle of the pack in terms of wide receivers in this league.


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Post by Stallworth16 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:28 pm

So as someone who disconnected from this drama of late, I’m trying to get closure in my head about it all. Mid-season AB was having a good year, but he was getting in a lot of trouble off the field.

So my question is this. Did it ever come out what the actual reason was that AB went AWOL and then decided to force a trade? Other than that he’s crazy. I know AB and Ben had a fight about something.

Also because the Raiders in true Raider fashion have decided to pay AB double with more guaranteed. Was this just a huge greed ploy by AB to get more money that was wildly successful.
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