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Again, I hesitate to say no one is that stupid...but I'm willing to bet money that Bell figured this was no big deal because he's seen other players stoned on the airplane more than once.
And personally, I don't know how I'd handle it. If a player is sober and attentive at games, meetings and practices....maybe I don't give a shit if he's stoned on the plane. I'm sure no one cared about how much coke LT was doing so long as he was getting 20 sacks a year.
It is a business, and these guys are just meat. No one cares if they're an addict so long as they're a functional one. The drug policy - including ped's but especially rec drugs - is mostly a PR tool...and you're not supposed to be dumb enough to get caught.
And personally, I don't know how I'd handle it. If a player is sober and attentive at games, meetings and practices....maybe I don't give a shit if he's stoned on the plane. I'm sure no one cared about how much coke LT was doing so long as he was getting 20 sacks a year.
It is a business, and these guys are just meat. No one cares if they're an addict so long as they're a functional one. The drug policy - including ped's but especially rec drugs - is mostly a PR tool...and you're not supposed to be dumb enough to get caught.
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JackLambert58 wrote:cop1211 wrote:Yes, Blame the cop for doing his job, don't blame the idiots breaking the law.
Also you can without a doubt smell marijuana coming from a vehicle while driving.
Most likely situation the cop was directly behind the vehicle.
Been there done that, on multiple occasions.
I tell people all the time if you want to smoke, at least be smart about it and do it inside your residence , if your dumb enough to bring it/ smoke it in public your dumb enough to go to jail for it.
And yes I rather would be going after " real criminals" but dumb people keep bringing their weed out in public .
+1000
Bell and Blount are fucking morons.
A judge once told me if it wasn't for DUI and drug possession that court would rarely have to convene. To bad that they don't teach kids that everyday. I'm not saying that would stop them from getting high or drinking but it would curtail the stupid shit like this.
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Do you know how rare an LT is?
Look, believe what you want to believe...but there are very few elite athletes and high achievers of any sort that are daily substance abusers.
Look, believe what you want to believe...but there are very few elite athletes and high achievers of any sort that are daily substance abusers.
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Zivco wrote:Do you know how rare an LT is?
Look, believe what you want to believe...but there are very few elite athletes and high achievers of any sort that are daily substance abusers.
That get caught.
Don't confuse not getting caught with not doing it.
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I think I'm right on this historically, but maybe not.....
Didn't the last time a Pittsburgh Steeler was busted by police for weed in a vehcile coincide with our last Super Bowl win??
If so....let's hope history repeats.
And totally agree with RS.....going back to my playing days in the 1970s.
Didn't the last time a Pittsburgh Steeler was busted by police for weed in a vehcile coincide with our last Super Bowl win??
If so....let's hope history repeats.
And totally agree with RS.....going back to my playing days in the 1970s.
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swissvale72 wrote:I think I'm right on this historically, but maybe not.....
Didn't the last time a Pittsburgh Steeler was busted by police for weed in a vehcile coincide with our last Super Bowl win??
If so....let's hope history repeats.
And totally agree with RS.....going back to my playing days in the 1970s.
HAHAHAHA.
Right on man. I'll take your memory over mine!
Here's to hoping!!!!!!!!!!!
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SteelKnife wrote:That get caught.
Don't confuse not getting caught with not doing it.
You want to put a number on your theory? Junkies don't perform well at anything outside of the arts over time.
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Zivco wrote:SteelKnife wrote:That get caught.
Don't confuse not getting caught with not doing it.
You want to put a number on your theory? Junkies don't perform well at anything outside of the arts over time.
Hardly consider pot users to be junkies.
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And those teams don't win SBs. Holmes was a lone fuckup. This team is full of players that don't give a shit for anything more then a paycheck...FCFS, they ain't world beaters they are 8-8 x 2 thats pretty much looked like shit vs the dregs of the NFL this preseason.
SteelerDog wrote:1. The cop is an over officious jackass that very likely was racially profiling 2 black dudes in a camaro.....fuck him.....
2. a camaro?.....have some damn pride man!......wtf!
3. i blame rooney for being a large part of creating an unbearably dumb dudley do right culture that pervades Pittsburgh
4. The Steelers are officially the biggest pussies in the nfl. like ive said for a long time....Joey Porter was the last real badass this team had....(with Ben being the lone possible exception)....if the defense plays like warriors again its because he instilled that
5. Bell and Blount are morons......
6. The Steelers have serious lockerroom issues......
7. this is what happens when you have a bunch of backslapping yes men running an organization.....there are no dissenting views and therefore no accoutability......fuck you rooney
I read this post and thought someone was parodying all the bedwhetting....then I saw who posted it!
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WTF idiots. Last thing PS needed on dawn of the new season.
SteelKnife wrote:Zivco wrote:SteelKnife wrote:That get caught.
Don't confuse not getting caught with not doing it.
You want to put a number on your theory? Junkies don't perform well at anything outside of the arts over time.
Hardly consider pot users to be junkies.
I'm not sure if Ziv was referring to pot or hard drugs. Anyone would be naive to believe that there aren't 100's of NFL players of all skill regularly using recreational marijuana. Pro Bowlers and Hall of Famers. Now hard drugs, possibly. But i knew some coke heads from my playing days and a for a RB, that shit was a performance enhancer. I imagin in the 80's many NFLers were bumping lines pre game.
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I agree that there aren't likely many hard drug users among the elite athletes.
But not sure how we got onto the hard drugs topic in discussing pot?
But not sure how we got onto the hard drugs topic in discussing pot?
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SteelerDog wrote:Pot is a fun mostly harmless drug to those not genetically predisposed for addiction .....much like alcoholics....
Pot DOES LOWER performance particularly in fields requiring maximum effort...
Lower performance while high, or lower performance even when sober?
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Kodiak wrote:SteelerDog wrote:1. The cop is an over officious jackass that very likely was racially profiling 2 black dudes in a camaro.....fuck him.....
2. a camaro?.....have some damn pride man!......wtf!
3. i blame rooney for being a large part of creating an unbearably dumb dudley do right culture that pervades Pittsburgh
4. The Steelers are officially the biggest pussies in the nfl. like ive said for a long time....Joey Porter was the last real badass this team had....(with Ben being the lone possible exception)....if the defense plays like warriors again its because he instilled that
5. Bell and Blount are morons......
6. The Steelers have serious lockerroom issues......
7. this is what happens when you have a bunch of backslapping yes men running an organization.....there are no dissenting views and therefore no accoutability......fuck you rooney
I read this post and thought someone was parodying all the bedwhetting....then I saw who posted it!
Well it ultimately it falls to Tomlin to tell these over-sized coddled brats where the bear don't shit in the buckwheat, because they don't fuckin know.
Fuckin Bell, here was a no issues player that I was really liking. Big back with power and moves
MFer is now heading toward being the 21st century Bam Morris #@$%%$^%&
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There are a bunch of very vocal pot users making some wild ass assumptions about other peoples use of the weed.
According to Gallup as of 2013 14% of 18 to 29 year olds use weed. Only 7% of college graduates. And you are going to parade the not even anecdotal canard that most NFL players, elite athletes, smoke weed?
According to Gallup as of 2013 14% of 18 to 29 year olds use weed. Only 7% of college graduates. And you are going to parade the not even anecdotal canard that most NFL players, elite athletes, smoke weed?
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Zivco wrote:There are a bunch of very vocal pot users making some wild ass assumptions about other peoples use of the weed.
According to Gallup as of 2013 14% of 18 to 29 year olds use weed. Only 7% of college graduates. And you are going to parade the not even anecdotal canard that most NFL players, elite athletes, smoke weed?
You're changing the discussion, as per usual.
Do you know how rare an LT is?
Look, believe what you want to believe...but there are very few elite athletes and high achievers of any sort that are daily substance abusers.
You said there are *very few* users.
I disagreed.
You took this disagreement to mean I think *most* NFL players smoke weed. I never said that.
But anyway...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... -smoke-pot
Telling stats and estimates.
Zivco wrote:And you are going to parade the not even anecdotal canard that most NFL players, elite athletes, smoke weed?
I think weed is preferred over alcohol among many professional athletes because of the dehibilitating effects of alcohol. Hard to get up and eat right and workout when you're hungover until 4 in the afternoon.
Drug use is considerably higher among people with idle time and lots of money, like hollywood celebs and pro athletes.
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a very large percentage of nfl ers use pot to deal with injuries and pain....much better than pain killers and all the accompanying side effects
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as per bouchette..
Two Steelers in trouble: Le’Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount
By Ed Bouchette about 1 hour ago
Good morning,
The Steelers believed they would have a better running game in 2014 and that may be so. But a cloud now hangs over Le’Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount, their top two backs, after they were stopped and face charges of marijuana possession and should be charged with stupidity.
This Cheech & Chong backfield – or as one person suggested on Twitter, the Dubai Brothers – practiced Wednesday morning at the team’s facility on Pittsburgh’s South Side. The practice ended around noon. The team’s chartered jet was scheduled to leave Pittsburgh International at 2:30 p.m.
At 1:30, a Ross cop pulled them over after smelling marijuana smoke wafting through an open window in Bell’s car. The two players and the woman with them admitted, according to the police, that the marijuana was all theirs.
ESPN once carried a dramatic series called “Playmakers” that portrayed scenes like this and others that offended the league higher ups into pressuring the network to cancel its production 10 years ago.
Instead, we now have a reality series playing out across the NFL country with scenes such as the one that developed in Pittsburgh early Wednesday afternoon.
Having said that, the two probably face no more than a one-game suspension and that won’t come anytime soon. Bell could be in for a tad more if tests at the hospital yesterday showed he indeed was driving under the drug’s influence.
Bell is in Philly but made the trip on his own and not with the team charter but Blount was on the charter jet.
It will be interesting to see if Mike Tomlin uses them tonight. The Steelers have enough backs to make it through a preseason game and playing them might be offensive to his teammates, coaches and their fans. His teammates likely are more upset with their stupidity than the actual act of smoking marijuana – which, by the way, Ryan Clark was so roundly criticized for saying in February that some teammates used it.
“I know guys on my team who smoke,’’ Clark said on ESPN. “A lot of it is stress relief. A lot of it is pain and medication.’’
The NFL has been in the process of reviewing its policies on marijuana use but so far have not changed anything. It became a popular topic when the states of Colorado and Washington approved the recreational use of marijuana.
Again, it’s not so much that Bell and Blount were smoking weed – there may be many who disagree with this, though, and it remains illegal to do so in Pennsylvania – but how they did it. They were driving in a car between practice, presumably home near Ross and then onto the airport to catch the charter jet to Philadelphia. Bell, again, faces the more serious charge of DUI.
Like Santonio Holmes, they also admitted that the marijuana was theirs (had they not done so, the woman presumably could have taken all the blame, not that it would have been right).
The Steelers are lucky, if that’s the right word, this happened before a preseason game rather than in the middle of the season. However, as preseason games go, this was their most important. Ben Roethlisberger said the other day that he hoped to play a half and work on the no-huddle offense in the noise on the road for the first time this year. Now, it looks as if he will be working with halfbacks who won’t even be on the team, other than rookie Dri Archer.
The liberalization of marijuana both in laws and in the minds of Americans is rapidly moving ahead. However, the stupidity of some athletes never ends.
Two Steelers in trouble: Le’Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount
By Ed Bouchette about 1 hour ago
Good morning,
The Steelers believed they would have a better running game in 2014 and that may be so. But a cloud now hangs over Le’Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount, their top two backs, after they were stopped and face charges of marijuana possession and should be charged with stupidity.
This Cheech & Chong backfield – or as one person suggested on Twitter, the Dubai Brothers – practiced Wednesday morning at the team’s facility on Pittsburgh’s South Side. The practice ended around noon. The team’s chartered jet was scheduled to leave Pittsburgh International at 2:30 p.m.
At 1:30, a Ross cop pulled them over after smelling marijuana smoke wafting through an open window in Bell’s car. The two players and the woman with them admitted, according to the police, that the marijuana was all theirs.
ESPN once carried a dramatic series called “Playmakers” that portrayed scenes like this and others that offended the league higher ups into pressuring the network to cancel its production 10 years ago.
Instead, we now have a reality series playing out across the NFL country with scenes such as the one that developed in Pittsburgh early Wednesday afternoon.
Having said that, the two probably face no more than a one-game suspension and that won’t come anytime soon. Bell could be in for a tad more if tests at the hospital yesterday showed he indeed was driving under the drug’s influence.
Bell is in Philly but made the trip on his own and not with the team charter but Blount was on the charter jet.
It will be interesting to see if Mike Tomlin uses them tonight. The Steelers have enough backs to make it through a preseason game and playing them might be offensive to his teammates, coaches and their fans. His teammates likely are more upset with their stupidity than the actual act of smoking marijuana – which, by the way, Ryan Clark was so roundly criticized for saying in February that some teammates used it.
“I know guys on my team who smoke,’’ Clark said on ESPN. “A lot of it is stress relief. A lot of it is pain and medication.’’
The NFL has been in the process of reviewing its policies on marijuana use but so far have not changed anything. It became a popular topic when the states of Colorado and Washington approved the recreational use of marijuana.
Again, it’s not so much that Bell and Blount were smoking weed – there may be many who disagree with this, though, and it remains illegal to do so in Pennsylvania – but how they did it. They were driving in a car between practice, presumably home near Ross and then onto the airport to catch the charter jet to Philadelphia. Bell, again, faces the more serious charge of DUI.
Like Santonio Holmes, they also admitted that the marijuana was theirs (had they not done so, the woman presumably could have taken all the blame, not that it would have been right).
The Steelers are lucky, if that’s the right word, this happened before a preseason game rather than in the middle of the season. However, as preseason games go, this was their most important. Ben Roethlisberger said the other day that he hoped to play a half and work on the no-huddle offense in the noise on the road for the first time this year. Now, it looks as if he will be working with halfbacks who won’t even be on the team, other than rookie Dri Archer.
The liberalization of marijuana both in laws and in the minds of Americans is rapidly moving ahead. However, the stupidity of some athletes never ends.
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Where are the 1 game predictions coming from? The drug policy (at least the 2010 version) says for violations of the law related to substances of abuse other than alcohol, it's 4 games.
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This Cheech & Chong backfield – or as one person suggested on Twitter, the Dubai Brothers – practiced Wednesday morning at the team’s facility on Pittsburgh’s South Side. The practice ended around noon. The team’s chartered jet was scheduled to leave Pittsburgh International at 2:30 p.m.
At 1:30, a Ross cop pulled them over after smelling marijuana smoke wafting through an open window in Bell’s car. The two players and the woman with them admitted, according to the police, that the marijuana was all theirs.
ESPN once carried a dramatic series called “Playmakers” that portrayed scenes like this and others that offended the league higher ups into pressuring the network to cancel its production 10 years ago.
Instead, we now have a reality series playing out across the NFL country with scenes such as the one that developed in Pittsburgh early Wednesday afternoon.
Having said that, the two probably face no more than a one-game suspension and that won’t come anytime soon. Bell could be in for a tad more if tests at the hospital yesterday showed he indeed was driving under the drug’s influence.
Bell is in Philly but made the trip on his own and not with the team charter but Blount was on the charter jet.
It will be interesting to see if Mike Tomlin uses them tonight. The Steelers have enough backs to make it through a preseason game and playing them might be offensive to his teammates, coaches and their fans. His teammates likely are more upset with their stupidity than the actual act of smoking marijuana – which, by the way, Ryan Clark was so roundly criticized for saying in February that some teammates used it.
http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/spo ... 1408210002
I can see that we fans probably made more of a big deal about this whole thing than it really warranted. It will be interesting to see if Tomlin plays them both. If stupid was a criminal offense we'd all be in prison at one time or another. I am betting these guys learned a valuable lesson.
STD's anti-cop bias coming through.SteelerDog wrote:1. The cop is an over officious jackass that very likely was racially profiling 2 black dudes in a camaro.....fuck him.....
SteelerDog wrote:2. a camaro?.....have some damn pride man!......wtf!
SteelerDog wrote:3. i blame rooney for being a large part of creating an unbearably dumb dudley do right culture that pervades Pittsburgh
What is your definition of a non-pussy NFL team? Just curious. James Harrison was the last badass on the team BTW.SteelerDog wrote:4. The Steelers are officially the biggest pussies in the nfl. like ive said for a long time....Joey Porter was the last real badass this team had....(with Ben being the lone possible exception)....if the defense plays like warriors again its because he instilled that
one of those rare times I agree with you.SteelerDog wrote:5. Bell and Blount are morons......
I'm guessing yes, too.SteelerDog wrote:6. The Steelers have serious lockerroom issues......
If what you say is true, you really need to be slamming your guy Tomlin, too. That is, if he's not a potted plant.SteelerDog wrote:7. this is what happens when you have a bunch of backslapping yes men running an organization.....there are no dissenting views and therefore no accoutability......fuck you rooney
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SteelKnife wrote:Zivco wrote:There are a bunch of very vocal pot users making some wild ass assumptions about other peoples use of the weed.
According to Gallup as of 2013 14% of 18 to 29 year olds use weed. Only 7% of college graduates. And you are going to parade the not even anecdotal canard that most NFL players, elite athletes, smoke weed?
You're changing the discussion, as per usual.Do you know how rare an LT is?
Look, believe what you want to believe...but there are very few elite athletes and high achievers of any sort that are daily substance abusers.
You said there are *very few* users.
I disagreed.
You took this disagreement to mean I think *most* NFL players smoke weed. I never said that.
But anyway...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... -smoke-pot
Telling stats and estimates.
I wasn't speaking to you directly, the numbers are the numbers.
I find that link a joke.
Lomas Brown is an authority on what? Making an ass of himself? Pot smoking has dropped by 40% NFL wide while at the same time growing everywhere else?
The stats he then provides are misleading beyond words. So what if 27% of football players have used weed in the last year...70% of all college seniors used marijuana senior year. The overall use number he provides is still smaller then college at large. So why wouldn't the numbers otherwise mimic Gallup?
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Lomas Brown is more of an authority on what NFL players do than you...
An (an, not the) explanation could be that penalties have lessened everywhere else, but not yet in the NFL.
An (an, not the) explanation could be that pot is one of the "safer" drugs for NFL players to use and they don't really have the practical option of using others (alcohol, harder drugs). Limited choices = different numbers.
Pot smoking has dropped by 40% NFL wide while at the same time growing everywhere else?
An (an, not the) explanation could be that penalties have lessened everywhere else, but not yet in the NFL.
The overall use number he provides is still smaller then college at large. So why wouldn't the numbers otherwise mimic Gallup?
An (an, not the) explanation could be that pot is one of the "safer" drugs for NFL players to use and they don't really have the practical option of using others (alcohol, harder drugs). Limited choices = different numbers.
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GreekSteel wrote:a very large percentage of nfl ers use pot to deal with injuries and pain....much better than pain killers and all the accompanying side effects
"We have revealed new information about the neural basis of cannabis-induced pain relief. Cannabis does not seem to act like a conventional pain medicine. Some people respond really well, others not at all, or even poorly. Brain imaging shows little reduction in the brain regions that code for the sensation of pain, which is what we tend to see with drugs like opiates. Instead cannabis appears to mainly affect the emotional reaction to pain in a highly variable way."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/254454.php
Sounds like a placebo to me....
Zivco wrote:GreekSteel wrote:a very large percentage of nfl ers use pot to deal with injuries and pain....much better than pain killers and all the accompanying side effects
"We have revealed new information about the neural basis of cannabis-induced pain relief. Cannabis does not seem to act like a conventional pain medicine. Some people respond really well, others not at all, or even poorly. Brain imaging shows little reduction in the brain regions that code for the sensation of pain, which is what we tend to see with drugs like opiates. Instead cannabis appears to mainly affect the emotional reaction to pain in a highly variable way."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/254454.php
Sounds like a placebo to me....
You missed a few:
It appears that cannabis affects people's emotional state in a way that makes pain less awful.
For a number of patients who have not responded adequately to drugs, cannabis or cannabis-based medications are an effective way of controlling their pain.
The participants' reports regarding how unpleasant their pain was were backed up by MRI scan results. An area in the bran called the anterior mid-cingulate cortex, which has many functions, including the emotional aspects of pain, became less active after participants took THC.
"Does not seem to act like a conventional pain medicine" =/= "Placebo"
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SteelKnife wrote:Lomas Brown is more of an authority on what NFL players do than you...
Lomas Brown is obviously full of shit. Are you actually giving any sort of credibility to that massive variance? I'm fairly certain that much like Ogden and Stepnoski he has a financial interest in legalization.
SteelKnife wrote:An (an, not the) explanation could be that pot is one of the "safer" drugs for NFL players to use and they don't really have the practical option of using others (alcohol, harder drugs). Limited choices = different numbers.
The testing period only exists for four months. In any case THC has a far longer presence in the body then other drugs. And as I just posted...there is zero proof that THC actually does anything for serious pain.
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Pabst wrote:"Does not seem to act like a conventional pain medicine" =/= "Placebo"
I missed nothing. It has no effect on the pain centers of the brain. This emotional aspects of pain is tantamount to the placebo effect. And we are talking about skin irritation, not significant pain.
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