2018 GM Board Draft Discussion Thread!!!

[DP39]

I'll take the Texans.

[Legacy User]

I'll take the Broncos

[Legacy User]

I'll take PGH West, AKA the Cards.

[bradshaw2ben]

B2B: Steelers
FC: 49ers
SP: Browns
GreekSteel: Bills
fractal: Seattle
Drama: Ravens
charles Demarr: Lions
cop1211: Jaguars
Gonzo: Jets
TB: Patriots
FortyThree: Bengals
smithessmokin: Chiefs
jebrick: Colts
JL58: Giants
Obviously: Chargers
Ice: Eagles
sheppardmj: Bears
STD: Cowboys
Pabst: Raiders
treat88: Packers
BarryFoster: Redskins
Ohmegosh/Slurve: Panthers
DP39: Texans
Enigma: Cards
OhioSteeler: Bucs
sgtrobo: Rams
pitty Smitty: Broncos
ironzabo: Titans
SteelThrillseeker: Dolphins
ol skool: Saints
mick: Vikings
Jobus Rum: Atlanta
steelclan: 1st alternate
FrenchSteeler: 2nd alternate

Let me know if you want to get in, even if you name isn't on this list.

[bradshaw2ben]

that's all the teams for now... if anyone drops out, I have two alternates-- let me know if you want to be added to that list. Cheers.

Alternates get priority for draft #2.

[Ice]

Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles is available for a reasonable price.

[Obviously]

Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles is available for a reasonable price.

Make that move, B2B!

[Steelperch]

Browns are shopping the #1 overall pick. Any QB needy teams wanna deal?

[Ice]

Browns are shopping the #1 overall pick. Any QB needy teams wanna deal?

Not planning on even inquiring, SP?

[bradshaw2ben]

Honestly, I think Foles is a PERFECT choice for Cleveland and Haley/Hue. Trade for Foles at a reasonable price, draft two of barkley-minkah, nelson, rouquan... or three of them with a trade down. Then take a flyer on a less-hyped QB like Rudolph-Lauletta-Allen later.

[Ice]

If we're talking Josh Allen, I think he could find himself gone in Round 1 this year. Not because I'm sold on him as a legit NFL starter per se (even though his previous season's tape, before all the defections on the offensive side of the ball, was actually pretty good), but because QB is going to be overdrafted as usual.

[bradshaw2ben]

If we're talking Josh Allen, I think he could find himself gone in Round 1 this year. Not because I'm sold on him as a legit NFL starter per se (even though his previous season's tape, before all the defections on the offensive side of the ball, was actually pretty good), but because QB is going to be overdrafted as usual.

Sorry, meant Kyle Allen from Houston.

Josh Allen has the most NFL upside of any QB in this draft. Period. End of sentence. Sure, he has issues and could easily be derailed by a bad staff or bad team but he's at least got more going for him than Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield.

[cop1211]

I like Allen as the number 2 QB in this draft.

[Legacy User]

1. Mayfield
2. Allen
3. Jackson
4. Darnold
4. Rosen

[Legacy User]

If we're talking Josh Allen, I think he could find himself gone in Round 1 this year. Not because I'm sold on him as a legit NFL starter per se (even though his previous season's tape, before all the defections on the offensive side of the ball, was actually pretty good), but because QB is going to be overdrafted as usual.

Sorry, meant Kyle Allen from Houston.

Josh Allen has the most NFL upside of any QB in this draft. Period. End of sentence. Sure, he has issues and could easily be derailed by a bad staff or bad team but he's at least got more going for him than Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield.

umm no, just no...

ps im still waiting on your paxton lynch is the next great qb to become a thing

[bradshaw2ben]

Paxton Lynch has off-the-field issues that I didn't know about and that totally sabotaged his career. He's not as good as his good tape from college showed and you were right.

Josh Allen isn't great, but he's had moments.

Darnold and especially Rosen will fail in Cleveland-- Rosen because he's a dome QB with insufficient arm strength to throw by the lake in bad weather and Darnold because he seems to be getting worse by the day as a passer. I don't see either guy zipping the ball into a tight seam window, let alone hitting an NFL hole shot vs cover 2 or over top of the LB in front of the safety. Way too much air/touch on the ball for both guys, throwing to mostly wide open guys in college.

I like Mayfield's makeup and leadership... but I don't see him having the size or the game to get good looks and put the ball in NFL tight windows.

I don't really trust any of them to do that out of the gate.

Which is why I said: Foles to the Browns makes the most sense if Wentz will be able to start the season.

[bradshaw2ben]

By the way, Greek, the only QBs in the draft I've actually liked to be great were:

Marino
Elway
Kordell
Ben
Rivers
Mahomes

I did okay. Kordell had some moments where it looked like he was going to be a superstar. Just never cleared the hump and got jerked around a little with the parade of OCs/being ahead of his time. Like, how good would young Kordell be in an 2018 era offense?

[Ice]

I definitely think Allen is being punished on this year's tape due to the fact that all the offensive losses between last season and this one are being overlooked. He's got a lot of talent.

[jebrick]

By the way, Greek, the only QBs in the draft I've actually liked to be great were:

Marino
Elway
Kordell
Ben
Rivers
Mahomes

I did okay. Kordell had some moments where it looked like he was going to be a superstar. Just never cleared the hump and got jerked around a little with the parade of OCs/being ahead of his time. Like, how good would young Kordell be in an 2018 era offense?

My list is shorter for QBs
Ben
Russell Wilson
Elway
Brees

Those are the ones I picked out from college to be good in the NFL and was right. 3 out of 4 I saw play live.

I have zero confidence in Mayfield. He has trouble throwing into tight windows. Watch him in the Oka St. and Iowa St. games. I like Allen but he has some issues. I like Nick Fitzgerald but he is not coming out. I like 3 freshman this year Tagovailoa, Fromm and McKenzie ( CFU).

[Steelperch]

Bidding is hot and heavy for the first overall pick. Don’t miss out!

[Legacy User]

By the way, Greek, the only QBs in the draft I've actually liked to be great were:

Marino
Elway
Kordell
Ben
Rivers
Mahomes

I did okay. Kordell had some moments where it looked like he was going to be a superstar. Just never cleared the hump and got jerked around a little with the parade of OCs/being ahead of his time. Like, how good would young Kordell be in an 2018 era offense?

Oh i wasnt implying you dont do great, you know your stuff come draft time, just a friendly jab at you my man. We shall see on Mahomes, i do like him even alot but not as sold as you are on him.

[Ice]

Bidding is hot and heavy for the first overall pick. Don’t miss out!

That was actually a pretty funny Seinfeld episode.

[Legacy User]

By the way, Greek, the only QBs in the draft I've actually liked to be great were:

Marino
Elway
Kordell
Ben
Rivers
Mahomes

I did okay. Kordell had some moments where it looked like he was going to be a superstar. Just never cleared the hump and got jerked around a little with the parade of OCs/being ahead of his time. Like, how good would young Kordell be in an 2018 era offense?

Oh i wasnt implying you dont do great, you know your stuff come draft time, just a friendly jab at you my man. We shall see on Mahomes, i do like him even alot but not as sold as you are on him.

Btw im being a pain in your ass going after Tomlin so ill save my comments on Kordell

[Jobu]

Like, how good would young Kordell be in an 2018 era offense?

Not very. He’d still be dumb, mentally weak, and a very inaccurate passer...
Today’s new style offenses need a QB to be in control, make decisions on the fly, and throw quick in to tight windows. All things that Kordell sucked at!
The guy was a bum then...he’d be a bum now.

[Steelperch]

Kordell couldn’t play in the modern NFL because he couldn’t complete a check down. Seriously, the worst part of his game was short passses. He’d routinely skip them three yards in front of the receivers feet. .

[bradshaw2ben]

Kordell's kryptonite was definitely the short out pattern.

But that guy could just run RPOs and PA RPOs for deep ball all night and he would have been just fine. They tried desperately to make him into a pocket passer and he was terrible at that. Running the option, Kordell was top 5 all time in college. I saw his whole career there and he was out of this world. Ran a hand-timed 4.1 at altitude. Could throw it 80 yards, outrun anyone on any college team in his era, never took a shot running it because he had that little wiggle at the last second. You guys can knock him all you want, but he won some games, he came damn close to winning MVP in 97. 5 GWD, 4 4thQ comebacks, 21 passing TDs, 2nd on the team in rushing yards, 11 rushing TDs. For comparison, Neil O'Donnell's best year ('95) he had only 17 passing TDs.

Of course, once I saw him play WR, I was sold that a move would have been great for him... but not meant to be.

[Legacy User]

Kordell's kryptonite was definitely the short out pattern.

But that guy could just run RPOs and PA RPOs for deep ball all night and he would have been just fine. They tried desperately to make him into a pocket passer and he was terrible at that. Running the option, Kordell was top 5 all time in college. I saw his whole career there and he was out of this world. Ran a hand-timed 4.1 at altitude. Could throw it 80 yards, outrun anyone on any college team in his era, never took a shot running it because he had that little wiggle at the last second. You guys can knock him all you want, but he won some games, he came damn close to winning MVP in 97. 5 GWD, 4 4thQ comebacks, 21 passing TDs, 2nd on the team in rushing yards, 11 rushing TDs. For comparison, Neil O'Donnell's best year ('95) he had only 17 passing TDs.

Of course, once I saw him play WR, I was sold that a move would have been great for him... but not meant to be.

But you have to be a pocket passer to win the super bowl. Kordell wasn't, and he wasn't ever going to win a super bowl. All that athleticism is great, but when push comes to shove, when there's two minutes on the clock in the super bowl and you need a TD to win, you better be able to pass accurately and read defenses, and I don't think Kordell was ever going to be that guy.

Or should I say, when you're down by 7 at home in the fourth quarter of the AFCCG against the Patriots, you better be able to pass accurately rather than, say, throw an untimely INT.

[bradshaw2ben]

No doubt, Kordell wasn't a Super Bowl capable QB. I'm just saying, he would have been better in this era (or, say, 5 years ago era) than in the late 90s NFL. I think he could do what Blake Bortles is doing, for instance-- and probably better than Bortles is doing it.

[Ice]

No doubt, Kordell wasn't a Super Bowl capable QB. I'm just saying, he would have been better in this era (or, say, 5 years ago era) than in the late 90s NFL. I think he could do what Blake Bortles is doing, for instance-- and probably better than Bortles is doing it.

Kordell's performance in that 7-6 win over the Pete Carroll Pats was Bortley.

[Thrillsseeker]

Miami is willing to trade Tannehill and some late round picks to move up.

PM me if interested.