Taller receivers are messing with Ben’s mind

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Re: Taller receivers are messing with Ben’s mind

Post by Havoc » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:32 am

bam morris wrote:ben forcing throws to a blanketed brown cost them before half. maddening.


I literally put my forehead in my hand when I saw that pick. Cost us points.
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Post by Kodiak » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:22 am

Havoc wrote:I literally put my forehead in my hands when I saw that pick. Cost us points.


Ben is just like his HC. Doesn't spend time thinking about situational football, and doesn't spend time reflecting on mistakes. Those two are never going to win another championship.

Sad part is, I don't think it's either/or. Ben can still be Ben and not make some of the mind-blowing stupid decisions he gets burned on half a dozen times a year. Could have been significant if he just applied himself to clean that up.
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Post by Nick79 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:47 pm

stillthere wrote:
Obviously wrote:Interesting theory.

Who do you think shot JFK?
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The military/industrial complex

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:12 pm

The Steelers offense (ergo that includes Ben) has only failed to score a TD three times in the red zone this year, out of like 20 opportunities. I think at least a significant part of that success is that we're throwing into the end zone more in RZ, rather than throwing short of the sticks. There is an element of greater risk to that, and Ben gets some leeway, since he's been rather successful in the RZ... but two of the three failures were INTs on balls targeting AB.

I think the choice to lob up a jump ball to AB in that situation was an extremely poor one, but that's based more on the game situation that was 'AB likely to catch that ball' in a vacuum. I mean, Ben throws a jump ball that AB comes down with fairly high frequency, and AB usually makes a better play on the ball than he did in that situation. The bigger problems: getting a TD there wasn't do or die, we weren't going to get the ball back before the half, an INT thwarts some of the 1st half momentum, could have run for a few yards and maybe more. Wasn't worth the risk, even if he thought AB had a pretty good chance to catch it.
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Post by Obviously » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:53 pm

Nick79 wrote:
stillthere wrote:
Obviously wrote:Interesting theory.

Who do you think shot JFK?
:lol:

The military/industrial complex


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Post by stillthere » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:00 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:The Steelers offense (ergo that includes Ben) has only failed to score a TD three times in the red zone this year, out of like 20 opportunities. I think at least a significant part of that success is that we're throwing into the end zone more in RZ, rather than throwing short of the sticks. There is an element of greater risk to that, and Ben gets some leeway, since he's been rather successful in the RZ... but two of the three failures were INTs on balls targeting AB.

I think the choice to lob up a jump ball to AB in that situation was an extremely poor one, but that's based more on the game situation that was 'AB likely to catch that ball' in a vacuum. I mean, Ben throws a jump ball that AB comes down with fairly high frequency, and AB usually makes a better play on the ball than he did in that situation. The bigger problems: getting a TD there wasn't do or die, we weren't going to get the ball back before the half, an INT thwarts some of the 1st half momentum, could have run for a few yards and maybe more. Wasn't worth the risk, even if he thought AB had a pretty good chance to catch it.


There is no explaining away a very poor decision to throw that pass. Same can be said of the First (?) interception at Cleveland. 2nd down throw it over the goal post and use what you just saw to help you. Throw incomplete on 3rd down if need be but keep the FG available. I get the whole in a vacuum angle but it is a fail of a football survey, IQ test, game brains, what ever phrase means making the right choice it was not the right choice to throw it and it was really not the right choice to throw that rainbow up in the middle of the endzone. I am gonna go with my gut on this one and not live in my fears as I sharpen iron and defend my blades of grass.

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