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Re: Players I have been looking at..Thinking About. Intrigue

Post by FC » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:52 pm

Emanuel Hall Wr Missouri

Listen I don't think this kid is making it past round 3...I cannot find anything about his game I dislike. His ball skills are not great. Everything else about his game is very good to elite. He ran a complete route tree in a pro style offense in 2018. He runs away from coverage with a rare combo of speed and quickness

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vThJUYhz8zk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQw3u4BiNro[/youtube]


Hall and Harmon are the two receivers who scream STUD to me in this draft. I like many of the receivers these two are my guys


I expect Hall blows the combine out of the water. AAU Jr Olympic Gold medals in the high jump and pentathlon (2011)



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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:15 pm

I noticed Hall when I looked at J'Mon Moore's tape 2 years ago (there was talk of Moore coming out that year). Added him to my watchlist.

This draft class is crazy deep with all-arounder WR types.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:44 pm

But can Hall catch? There is some talk of him having suspect hands. Speed is his claim to fame though.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IgqOuB77zc[/youtube]

I'm also intrigued with Jordan Brailford as a late round flier. Not able to find video of him except for some not so flattering film vs Kansas State.

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Post by jebrick » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:05 am

My 2 favorite WR in this class are N'Keal Harry and Deebo Samuel.
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Post by smithessmokin » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:49 am

FC wrote:Emanuel Hall Wr Missouri

Listen I don't think this kid is making it past round 3...I cannot find anything about his game I dislike. His ball skills are not great. Everything else about his game is very good to elite. He ran a complete route tree in a pro style offense in 2018. He runs away from coverage with a rare combo of speed and quickness

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vThJUYhz8zk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQw3u4BiNro[/youtube]


Hall and Harmon are the two receivers who scream STUD to me in this draft. I like many of the receivers these two are my guys


I expect Hall blows the combine out of the water. AAU Jr Olympic Gold medals in the high jump and pentathlon (2011)

Couldn’t agree more FC, you and I like a lot of the same guys this year. Hall was injured this past year too.

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Post by cop1211 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:52 am

How about WR Antoine Wesley from Texas Tech?

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:31 am

cop1211 wrote:How about WR Antoine Wesley from Texas Tech?

Interesting prospect... he's so differently built from your average WR, and he seems too high-waisted/tall to be a usable TE. Incredible catch radius and ball skills. I think he'd be dynamite in the Red Zone and pretty mediocre anywhere else because he doesn't run well.
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Post by cop1211 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:58 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
cop1211 wrote:How about WR Antoine Wesley from Texas Tech?

Interesting prospect... he's so differently built from your average WR, and he seems too high-waisted/tall to be a usable TE. Incredible catch radius and ball skills. I think he'd be dynamite in the Red Zone and pretty mediocre anywhere else because he doesn't run well.


I’ll take him at 4b, if they can get an extra 2nd and 4th round pick for Brown.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:15 pm

I like Wesley as well. At 6'4 200 he has a slight build with some release ability questions. His COD/hip drop have been described as 'elite' for his height/length. That in mind we always say you can't coach height and length. COD is something else that can't be coached up. Either you've got it or you don't. Those 3 God given talents should be enough to generate some draft buzz on Wesley enough to get him drafted. Where? Is anyone's guess at this point. I'd start in the 4th like cop suggests. He could rise like a missile or drop like an anchor. Combine should straighten it all up. His ability to track the ball is even described as good. There is some question regarding his hands as well as his collegiate production or lack thereof.

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Post by smithessmokin » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:16 pm

I feel like Antoine Wesley is a poor mans version of N’keal Harry. They both have extremely similar games except Wesley is quicker than Harry.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:02 am

A respected team leader and captain for Ohio St. Has some refinement/development to do as a young kid. Natural hands catching away from his body. Has a second gear and yards after catch ability. Future starter potential. An intriguing prospect IMO.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7guPnKeOgts[/youtube]

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Post by cop1211 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:10 am

Safety Mike Bell Fresno State. I’d like him in the 3rd.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:39 am

A bit of an unknown. No one talking about him, yet. Ball skills are what's most impressive. Plays the run well; a good form tackler can miss but not very often. Nothing overly exciting SPARQ related, Average athlete. Size, length, ball skills are excellent but not a burner. Can play either safety spot but not asked to play a lot in man coverage, if at all. He could stand to put on some muscle weight. Listed at 203-205. His combine will likely determine whether he goes day 2 or day 3. Intriguing prospect no one is talking about.

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Post by cop1211 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:00 am

CB Sean Bunting Central Michigan 4th round Id take him.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:11 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:A respected team leader and captain for Ohio St. Has some refinement/development to do as a young kid. Natural hands catching away from his body. Has a second gear and yards after catch ability. Future starter potential. An intriguing prospect IMO.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7guPnKeOgts[/youtube]

Mike Wallace, but not quite as fast.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:22 pm

cop1211 wrote:CB Sean Bunting Central Michigan 4th round Id take him.

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I think he's a solid, assignment-based player... I just don't think you'll get anything extra from him, if that makes sense. In that regard, he's the kind of guy Dick Lebeau would have drafted. Don't mean that as a knock, just a type. High floor, low ceiling.

In a normal draft class of CBs, I'd say mid 4. In this one, no earlier than second half of day 3.
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Post by Ice » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:39 pm

I think McLaurin shows better hands (albeit pretty limited sample size) than I remember out of Wallace, at least in terms of bodying the ball.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:50 pm

Ice wrote:I think McLaurin shows better hands (albeit pretty limited sample size) than I remember out of Wallace, at least in terms of bodying the ball.

I'm sure you've seen more of him on a play to play basis than I have, but his ball-tracking on deep ball and seeming refusal to high point any ball is eerily reminiscent of Wallace.
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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:35 am

he looked good in the all star game and they like ohio st kids

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Post by Jobu » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:17 pm

What are the thoughts on NC St LB Germaine Pratt?

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Post by Ice » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:28 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Ice wrote:I think McLaurin shows better hands (albeit pretty limited sample size) than I remember out of Wallace, at least in terms of bodying the ball.

I'm sure you've seen more of him on a play to play basis than I have, but his ball-tracking on deep ball and seeming refusal to high point any ball is eerily reminiscent of Wallace.


If we're looking strictly at Ohio State receivers, he would cost a slightly more premium pick, but Parris Campbell is my guy of that group.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:08 pm

Ice wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Ice wrote:I think McLaurin shows better hands (albeit pretty limited sample size) than I remember out of Wallace, at least in terms of bodying the ball.

I'm sure you've seen more of him on a play to play basis than I have, but his ball-tracking on deep ball and seeming refusal to high point any ball is eerily reminiscent of Wallace.


If we're looking strictly at Ohio State receivers, he would cost a slightly more premium pick, but Parris Campbell is my guy of that group.

He's interesting to me... I'd like to understand why they featured him in the slot, considering his reported long speed. Can he be a full-time outside guy in the NFL?
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Post by Ice » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:41 pm

That whole group of WR (including KJ Hill, still there) have a chance to be better pros than college players. Because of the way Coach Meyer was running the offense with Barrett at QB, they lost some development time, to put it mildly. I think Campbell has a ton of ability, and a diverse skillset that will translate well at the NFL level. He's got decent size,very good speed, good hands and will continue to improve.
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