Kitchens fired

[Jizz Mop]

I’d like to see what fresh blood can do with our roster

No need for us to “start over”

Dumblin got handed a championship team on a platter and just had to NOT fuck it up

Now how many years later and what success have we had?

3 playoff wins, 1 of which super lucky vs Cincy and many embarrassing regular season and playoff losses.

Fuck that dope

[Pabst]

Browns have fired their GM. Because Cleveland.

[BethlehemSteel]

If it’s brown flush it’s down

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... cleveland/

Dorsey out

[SteelerDayTrader]

Browns have fired their GM. Because Cleveland.

Unreal......

Split with all the division.......only played 3-4 bad games all year......Punchers chance to catch Steelers and Bengals in downturns.....assembled a pretty talented roster.....

Most of those guys will either move on by choice or the new regime will kick them out......

I almost feel sorry for them....

[BethlehemSteel]

Half team wanted Kitchens out

Franchise is cursed

Modell must have had the stadium cursed by witches before they tore down old Muni. Before building the orange bowl

[Jobu]

assembled a pretty talented roster.....

Full of egos and head cases and “me first” players. And they STILL don’t have a QB.
That said...did not see this one coming.

[Pabst]

assembled a pretty talented roster.....

Full of egos and head cases and “me first” players. And they STILL don’t have a QB.
That said...did not see this one coming.

The "talent" he assembled was largely due to having a pair of top 5 picks and $100m in cap space.

People talk about the talent, but he made a pair of bust signings in Chris Hubbard and Sheldon Richardson. He also completely neglected the LT position and traded their best offensive lineman (plus a draft pick and SS) to get a pair of injury prone players.

I will laugh my ass off if the Browns bring in Josh McDaniels and give him full control

[BethlehemSteel]

They requested his interview for both jobs

[Pabst]

They requested his interview for both jobs

YES!!!!

[Jobu]

I will laugh my ass off if the Browns bring in Josh McDaniels and give him full control

Fingers crossed.

[Lynch]

Half team wanted Kitchens out

Franchise is cursed

Modell must have had the stadium cursed by witches before they tore down old Muni. Before building the orange bowl

They ARE fucking cursed dude, and no amount of dick and ball socks can save them.

[Ice]

That's the truth, STD, and also why a guy with the 3rd best college coaching job in Texas just turned them down for an interview. No coach with any other prospects wants a piece of that organization. I bet Lane Kiffin would turn them down.

[BethlehemSteel]

It gets better

TODD MONKEN
C, UNSIGNED FREE AGENT

The Athletic reports ex-Browns coach Freddie Kitchens and OC Todd Monken were "never on the same page."
This has long been obvious, but reporter Zac Jackson offered up some fascinating, funny details on Tuesday. Per Jackson, Monken would "spend time on the field before games telling opposing coaches how bad things were with the Browns," going as far as to call the team a "total mess." Monken apparently complained that Kitchens' Sunday play-calling rarely resembled what was installed in the game plan. An NFL/college journeyman, Monken became a folk hero for his aerial-obsessed Bucs in 2018, though Jameis Winston pushed that envelope even farther in 2019. Monken could have trouble finding play-calling work at the NFL level in 2020.

RELATED: Cleveland Browns
SOURCE: The Athletic
Dec 31, 2019, 8:20 PM ET

This is why we probably stick with dumblin. We’d end up as factory of sadness east

The game planning aspect could mirror ours

[BethlehemSteel]

McCarthy seems to not be turning heads elsewhere

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports the Browns are considering pairing ex-Packers coach Mike McCarthy with assistant GM Eliot Wolf.
Ron Wolf's son, Eliot overlapped with McCarthy for 12 years in Green Bay. Wolf arrived in Cleveland in 2018. Understandably, the Browns are said to be prioritizing a unified coaching/front office front, but that has always been easier said than done under scatterbrained owner Jimmy Haslam.

RELATED: Cleveland Browns
SOURCE: Cleveland Plain Dealer
Dec 31, 2019, 9:44 PM ET

[BethlehemSteel]

Time to get back to status quo on the left hand image

[AirRescueFF]

Half team wanted Kitchens out

Franchise is cursed

Modell must have had the stadium cursed by witches before they tore down old Muni. Before building the orange bowl

[LakecrestSteeler]

Whatever you think about Freddie Kitchens.....Firing a HC after one year means management has no plan and just follows the wind....

You are completely wrong STD....it means they have no management.

They have an incompetent congress of former players and business people and the owner. The loudest voice of the day, gets to have the decision of the day executed. Go home and repeat the next day.

No manager or management could have that poor of a vision! Only a non hierarchical body could be driving the Shit show this many years.

[BethlehemSteel]

The ultimate issue is Flying-J Man

[Obviously]

Gee, I wonder why none of COTY Tomlin's coordinators are being considered for a head coaching position.