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Re: Bouchette expects Steelers to draft a RB

Post by steelmann58 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:22 pm

I like to see what Wythe brings to the Field. But it would not shock me to see a Rb taking within rounds 2-4.I don't think they will take a TE in this draft.It will be intresting to see who drops to us at 49 and would anyone be shocked if they moved down?



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Post by Steelperch » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:22 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:22 pm
I'm all for it... just not on Day 2. If they waste a gatdam day 2 pick on a RB, shame on them.

YOU HAVE BIG BEN.
Connor can’t stay healthy. Snell is a plodder. The other schmuck isn’t even a RB. I see RB and WR as two of the top 3 needs along with IOL.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:12 am

Steelperch wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:22 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:22 pm
I'm all for it... just not on Day 2. If they waste a gatdam day 2 pick on a RB, shame on them.

YOU HAVE BIG BEN.
Connor can’t stay healthy. Snell is a plodder. The other schmuck isn’t even a RB. I see RB and WR as two of the top 3 needs along with IOL.
Just because RB is a top need doesn't mean you spend your only top 100 pick and 49th pick on one.

And how is IOL a bigger need than LT? They have no OT under contract after this year. AV appears to be declining, will be a 32-year old FA seeking his first big payday. I think Feiler gets the LG spot, gets the payday, AV walks. Now is the time to draft a LT you can bring along this year and expect to start in 2021. You have Derwin Gray, Feiler, Wisniewski, and probably even Chuk and Banner to play G. Maybe you could draft a future C but I don't see IOL as big a need as LT, DT, RB, speed WR, blocking TE, ILBdepth, EDGE depth.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:11 pm

Maybe not but Feiler is and Wis is and derwin Gray will get a shot. Still no LT
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Post by Scunge » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:22 pm

I expect the Steelers to draft a RB with that 2nd round pick too. I am hoping it is Cam Akers. I think he can be special and I think he has the smarts and talent to be a 1,000 yard rusher and have 60+ catches as a rookie RB.

I see it as a huge need. People always say, hey you can get a good/great RB later in the draft, yeah, everybody says that. Didn't we say that when we drafted Conner and Snell and Samuels? Didn't Chicago think that when they drafted Whyte?

No, to me that 2nd to early 3rd round area is where you can find really great talent at RB. Players that can have an immediate impact.

Ben is not a young man anymore and he is coming off a serious injury. I just don't see how Ben is the type of QB anymore that can throw it 675 times in a season or automatically make average players around him better just by his mere presence. Ben needs help, he needs playmakers.

And the RB position needs a jolt of electricity. Conner can't stay healthy and he plays with a more reckless style than Bell which sort of invites or facilitates injuries. Samuels is not a pure RB, he is strictly a 3rd down receiving back. Snell just does not have the speed or quickness to be special, he is sort of a monotonous one note player. None of these players can help Ben, can help take the stress off of Ben, be leaned upon to balance the offense.

But a Cam Akers could do that. You draft Akers and pair him with Conner and split the carries/snaps and you make Conner a much better player. Akers was a former high school QB, he is football smart and I don't see how there would be any adjustment to the NFL game, he is a natural to me and he had a great combine. Also he is just 20 years old, turns 21 at the end of June.

My whole point about drafting a Cam Akers this year is that the Steelers can't afford to sign Conner next year. Even if Conner took a discount, he probably would still be looking for something like what Austin Ekeler got from the Chargers. 4 years, $25 million for Conner??? So, in 2021 let Conner go and you would have Akers entering his 2nd season and be ready to build upon his rookie year.

Many of you want to wait until next year to draft a RB high, whatever, all that means is that this year you are crossing your fingers hoping for no injuries, and boy did Conner, Snell and Samuels all miss plenty of time last year, and then in 2021 you are crossing your fingers hoping for a rookie RB to play well with no Conner.

My scenario is the best. You have a strong one two punch this year with say an Akers and Conner and then in 2021 you let Conner leave via free agency and Akers has a year under his belt ready to explode in his second NFL season.

The idea of drafting a DT with that 2nd round pick does nothing for me. Are they going to play more than Akers as that 1A or 1B? A LT, is he going to play at all in year one or two?

I am tired of watching us spend high picks only to watch them sit on the bench or play very little. Cam Sutton is in the last year of his contract, he was a 3rd round pick. Chuks was a 3rd round pick, now he is in his 3rd season. If they Steelers had been able to keep Ramon Foster and if Matt Fieler stayed at RT would Chuks play at all this season? Nope.

That 2nd round pick is precious and we have to use it wisely on a player and position that is going to have an impact as a rookie. To spend it on a position and a player that might finally play in year 3 does Ben no favors.

To me that 2nd round pick has to be a RB or WR. My favorites are Cam Akers and Jalon Reagor. Ben needs a playmaker to make his life easier.

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Post by steelmann58 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:33 am

I agree with your choice or Cam he gives that take it to the house back and i would then draft that deep threat in round 3.
if they go the other way and grab a WR in round 2 i would love to get Mcfarland.

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Post by 955876 » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:49 pm

Scunge wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:22 pm
I expect the Steelers to draft a RB with that 2nd round pick too. I am hoping it is Cam Akers. I think he can be special and I think he has the smarts and talent to be a 1,000 yard rusher and have 60+ catches as a rookie RB.

I see it as a huge need. People always say, hey you can get a good/great RB later in the draft, yeah, everybody says that. Didn't we say that when we drafted Conner and Snell and Samuels? Didn't Chicago think that when they drafted Whyte?

No, to me that 2nd to early 3rd round area is where you can find really great talent at RB. Players that can have an immediate impact.

Ben is not a young man anymore and he is coming off a serious injury. I just don't see how Ben is the type of QB anymore that can throw it 675 times in a season or automatically make average players around him better just by his mere presence. Ben needs help, he needs playmakers.

And the RB position needs a jolt of electricity. Conner can't stay healthy and he plays with a more reckless style than Bell which sort of invites or facilitates injuries. Samuels is not a pure RB, he is strictly a 3rd down receiving back. Snell just does not have the speed or quickness to be special, he is sort of a monotonous one note player. None of these players can help Ben, can help take the stress off of Ben, be leaned upon to balance the offense.

But a Cam Akers could do that. You draft Akers and pair him with Conner and split the carries/snaps and you make Conner a much better player. Akers was a former high school QB, he is football smart and I don't see how there would be any adjustment to the NFL game, he is a natural to me and he had a great combine. Also he is just 20 years old, turns 21 at the end of June.

My whole point about drafting a Cam Akers this year is that the Steelers can't afford to sign Conner next year. Even if Conner took a discount, he probably would still be looking for something like what Austin Ekeler got from the Chargers. 4 years, $25 million for Conner??? So, in 2021 let Conner go and you would have Akers entering his 2nd season and be ready to build upon his rookie year.

Many of you want to wait until next year to draft a RB high, whatever, all that means is that this year you are crossing your fingers hoping for no injuries, and boy did Conner, Snell and Samuels all miss plenty of time last year, and then in 2021 you are crossing your fingers hoping for a rookie RB to play well with no Conner.

My scenario is the best. You have a strong one two punch this year with say an Akers and Conner and then in 2021 you let Conner leave via free agency and Akers has a year under his belt ready to explode in his second NFL season.

The idea of drafting a DT with that 2nd round pick does nothing for me. Are they going to play more than Akers as that 1A or 1B? A LT, is he going to play at all in year one or two?

I am tired of watching us spend high picks only to watch them sit on the bench or play very little. Cam Sutton is in the last year of his contract, he was a 3rd round pick. Chuks was a 3rd round pick, now he is in his 3rd season. If they Steelers had been able to keep Ramon Foster and if Matt Fieler stayed at RT would Chuks play at all this season? Nope.

That 2nd round pick is precious and we have to use it wisely on a player and position that is going to have an impact as a rookie. To spend it on a position and a player that might finally play in year 3 does Ben no favors.

To me that 2nd round pick has to be a RB or WR. My favorites are Cam Akers and Jalon Reagor. Ben needs a playmaker to make his life easier.
You make a strong case...

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Post by anpsteel » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:05 pm

All the free agency moves indicate they are going best player available.

Of course, BPA is weighted somewhat. I assume they are going to find a way to extend Dupree. If not OLB immediately rises to the top of this list

In terms of need

LT
IOL
WR (Outside receiver is arguably the biggest need on offense)
SS
ILB
RB

Lots of talk about drafting a RB, but the performance of all the backs will improve with a competent passing game and any semblance of a deep threat. (this includes potentially Ebron- as he'll function in the same role- by occupying a Safety.) In other words, I think they can make it a season with the existing back, as long as they have an improved passing game.

Strong Safety, Inside Backer, and RB are all weighted - really for depth. If you find a late gem, great.

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Post by steelmann58 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:39 am

I am looking more and more with the App State RB for the steelers if the go OL/WR in round 2-3

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:30 pm

If your goal is top playmaker available at 49, his name is Antonio Gibson. He’s a bigger, sturdier Percy Harvin. Picking him at 49 also mitigates the urgency of selecting another RB or WR for a few rounds. I’ll be 100% shocked if Gibson is still on the board at 102.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:21 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:30 pm
If your goal is top playmaker available at 49, his name is Antonio Gibson. He’s a bigger, sturdier Percy Harvin. Picking him at 49 also mitigates the urgency of selecting another RB or WR for a few rounds. I’ll be 100% shocked if Gibson is still on the board at 102.
truth


you wanna know why RB at 49 is a dumb idea ??

The Steelers wouldnt be able to run on the rats in the red zone if they had Earl Campbell. Period
The Steelers wont score enough points fast enough in the 4th qrt against KC

There are at least a few other teams where the above thinking applies as well to a lesser degree
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Post by Ice » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:58 am

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