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Post by jeemie » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:08 pm

SteelerVHilts wrote:So your "answer/explanation" is Tomlin shouldve called a timeout?
:lol: Oh thats just brilliant :lol: that changes everything :lol:

The simple fact is Tomlin's team roared back from a big deficit...and
Were within a TD of winning late in the game and the guys on the field
Didnt make plays.....sometimes that happens.....unlike appearently
Bizzarro blowhard agenda swissvale world.....where appearently calling
A timeout fixes everything and guys make all the plays work :lol:


Perhaps they didn't make plays because Randle El and Wallace were confused on the final drive.

Tell us...is a play more or less likely to be successful if the players running it aren't all clear as to their responsibilities on that play?

And it is not like this confusion on Wallace's and Randle El's parts were hidden...we could clearly see it on TV.

I am certain Tomlin could see it from the sideline too.


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Post by jeemie » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:11 pm

SteelerVHilts wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
SteelerVHilts wrote:So your "answer/explanation" is Tomlin shouldve called a timeout?
:lol: Oh thats just brilliant :lol: that changes everything :lol:
The simple fact is Tomlin's team roared back from a big deficit...and
Were within a TD of winning late in the game and the guys on the field
Didnt make plays.....sometimes that happens.....unlike appearently
Bizzarro blowhard agenda swissvale world.....where appearently calling
A timeout fixes everything and guys make all the plays work :lol:

Yeah, when your team is in disarray, as they clearly were, you shut the fuckin' thing down and regroup.
Tell us about your next diet, you morbidly obese mother-fucker, and how your goal is to get down to three-and-a-half bills, but you just can't seem to pass up those catcher's mitt size danishes.


How do you know they were in "disarray" as you put it?
Wouldnt it be prudent to "save" the TO for use after what you
Hope is a successful play deep in your own end?

Let me guess.....Tomlin shouldve called TO....dialed up the
Super duper double secret probation 80 yd TD that always
Works play right? :ugeek:


The disarray was clear to see on TV as it was happening, and both Wallace and Randle El confirmed their confusion afterwards. I was screaming "call timeout!!!" as that final drive was happening...have plenty of witnesses to that.

And Swiss is not stating that had Tomlin called a timeout there that it was guaranteed the Steelers would have won.

What he is saying is that the Steelers were not likely to be successful while rushing plays while at least two of their wide receivers were confused as to what they were supposed to be doing...and Tomlin should have known that.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:13 pm

I thought it was pretty clear that the receivers, and Wallace in particular, were confused. I'll agree with the TO criticism.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:18 pm

It's also pretty clear that Swiss got annoyed b/c he was basically called a racist for criticizing Tomlin.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:20 pm

Jeemie wrote:
SteelerVHilts wrote:So your "answer/explanation" is Tomlin shouldve called a timeout?
:lol: Oh thats just brilliant :lol: that changes everything :lol:
The simple fact is Tomlin's team roared back from a big deficit...and
Were within a TD of winning late in the game and the guys on the field
Didnt make plays.....sometimes that happens.....unlike appearently
Bizzarro blowhard agenda swissvale world.....where appearently calling
A timeout fixes everything and guys make all the plays work :lol:

Perhaps they didn't make plays because Randle El and Wallace were confused on the final drive.
Tell us...is a play more or less likely to be successful if the players running it aren't all clear as to their responsibilities on that play?
And it is not like this confusion on Wallace's and Randle El's parts were hidden...we could clearly see it on TV.
I am certain Tomlin could see it from the sideline too.


1. Not sure it was confusion so much as anxious desparation
2. Correct me if im wrong....we were down to 3 healthy WRs right?
3. Not sure i take that TO with very little time left and alot of yards to go....
Thinking.....positively....we pick up the 1st.....but most likely still have
Alot of ground to cover.....either way....its certainly not the huge error
Swiissvale has tried in vain to make it out to be....when his posts slamming
Tomlin were shredded

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Post by jeemie » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:21 pm

SteelerVHilts wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:How do I KNOW they were in disarray?? Did u not watch that game? Did you not notice that mike wallace was clueless on the final possession...didn't know where the fuck to lineup? Ya, the timeout was precious...but so was making a fuckin first down. And in your case, douchebag, the personal attacks are most certainly warrented.


So what your now saying is Tomlin shouldve taken the TO deep in his
Own end prior to the 4th down....then he shouldve called the 1st down
Play that always works....made sure mike wallace understood this is
The play that always works....got the 1st down....then call all the other
Plays that always work to stop the clock and march down the field and
Score a td?

Fuck.....how can i not agree with that kind of longstanding undisputable
Brilliance....i was wrong.....you are a goddamn genius....why are you not
Coaching in the nfl bro?


That you asked the question in the first paragraph above higlights that you have the same difficulty Mike Tomlin does in revaluing things such as timeouts when the in game situation warrants they be revalued.

Since the odds of a successfully executed play go way down if one or more players running the play is confused as to what he is supposed to do, then the idea that a timeout is more valuable late in the two minute come from behind drill than early in it needs to be revalued.

Where the Steelers were on the field at the time of the confusion became WAY less relevant than the fact that they WERE confused.

You don't get to a position where you can call a timeout in Green Bay's end unless you first execute the plays that get you into Green Bay's end of the field.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:22 pm

SteelerVHilts wrote:1. Not sure it was confusion so much as anxious desparation


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, probably BECAUSE they didn't know what they were supposed to be doing.

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Post by jeemie » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:23 pm

Still Lit wrote:
SteelerVHilts wrote:1. Not sure it was confusion so much as anxious desparation


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, probably BECAUSE they didn't know what they were supposed to be doing.


Which they admitted to in post game interviews.
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Post by jeemie » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:28 pm

The best analogy I have heard on the subject of revaluing things.

What's the value of a screw?

Well...you can get them in Home Depot for a couple of bucks a bag, so screws are pretty cheap.

Now let's change the context.

Suppose you have to repair a $800 machine, and the first step is to remove the outer cover.

Upon starting to remove the cover, you notice one of the screws is on tight. In using extra force to remove the screw, you tear the slot instead of getting it to come loose

Now what's the value of that stuck screw with the torn slot?

$800...because the machine is worthless until you get that screw out.
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Post by Legacy User » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:07 am

Ben gets this one. :D

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:09 am

Spit in your eye wrote:Ben gets this one. :D


Tru dat

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