The Center Position

[Stosh-67]

The OL has consistently improved

It would be damn dumb to give up on the current OL before the end of next year

The last thing this team should do on draft day is spend a 1 or 2 on the OL

The Steelers need starter quality help all over the team

Dotson and Moore have the tools and measurements to play well

Green is a fighter

Do you really wanna spend premium draft capital on a RG or RT ??

The Steelers have not drafted an Offensive linemen in the 1st or 2nd rounds in 10 years.
The Steelers have not drafted an Offensive lineman in the 1st or 2nd rounds in.............A DECADE

The Steelers went into the draft KNOWING, that they would not be returning ALL 5 starters from opening day 2020.
AV, MF, MO, DD, ZB...... Banner started as the RT opening game in 2020.

In the last 9 drafts....the Steelers have drafted TWO offensive lineman in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
Two, 3rd rounders....pick 87 Green and pick 92 in Chucks.

28 picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds in the last 9 years ......... TWO 3RD ROUND OL PICKS

So we wonder why the offensive line has been the biggest problem for this team in 2021.

Draft 2 OL in the first 4 picks.
DL with another top 4 pick.
ILB / CB / SS with the 4th of top 4 picks.

[Jobu]

In the last 9 drafts....the Steelers have drafted TWO offensive lineman in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
Two, 3rd rounders....pick 87 Green and pick 92 in Chucks.

28 picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds in the last 9 years ......... TWO 3RD ROUND OL PICKS

Jeezus!

[SteelerDayTrader]

The OL has consistently improved

It would be damn dumb to give up on the current OL before the end of next year

The last thing this team should do on draft day is spend a 1 or 2 on the OL

The Steelers need starter quality help all over the team

Dotson and Moore have the tools and measurements to play well

Green is a fighter

Do you really wanna spend premium draft capital on a RG or RT ??

The Steelers have not drafted an Offensive linemen in the 1st or 2nd rounds in 10 years.
The Steelers have not drafted an Offensive lineman in the 1st or 2nd rounds in.............A DECADE

The Steelers went into the draft KNOWING, that they would not be returning ALL 5 starters from opening day 2020.
AV, MF, MO, DD, ZB...... Banner started as the RT opening game in 2020.

In the last 9 drafts....the Steelers have drafted TWO offensive lineman in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
Two, 3rd rounders....pick 87 Green and pick 92 in Chucks.

28 picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds in the last 9 years ......... TWO 3RD ROUND OL PICKS

So we wonder why the offensive line has been the biggest problem for this team in 2021.

Draft 2 OL in the first 4 picks.
DL with another top 4 pick.
ILB / CB / SS with the 4th of top 4 picks.

Horrible idea

Dotson LeGlue Moore Banner Chuks Green Hassenauer

That crew all had less than 1yr nfl experience prior to this season.

You don’t give up on guys you were all in on after just one year. You never do that. Ever. That’s how bad teams stay bad

Another thing. Some positions ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE top draft capital

WILB SS QB maybe CB

There are good OL prospects later

The much bigger issue is coaching

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

There are good OL prospects later

That often gest looked over when trying to piece together these types of things.

If you have guys that will be available in teh 4th round who normally would be 2nd round type of guys at the position - as many felt with the tackle position last year, then you can spend the higher draft picks on players at positions that are not as deep.

If Green ends up being nearly as good as Humphrey in the long run, then you've essentially added friermuth for free. Did it suck for this past year? Sure, but you don't win super bowls with first year 2nd and 3rd round picks... those guys have to grow, and any draft pick should be made with multiple year windows - not just 1 year.

The Steelers may have fallen trap to that with the pick of Harris - but I think that guy is still going to be a really good pro. In hindsight would it have been better to resign conner and go with a trey serman or something in the 4th / 5th round as a #2.... maybe. It's hard to say.

It is funny though, a few lineman this past year on the draft radar seemed to be hurt this year, so its hard to say if they were good/better picks. Moore and Green stayed relatively healthy.

[86n96]

Green is not strong enough. It is up to him in the off season to show he can add the require muscle. If he doesn't, draft a center. Put Dodson at RG. Sign a good LG. Draft more depth on both lines. keep Leglue. Loudermilk is a keeper. Bring back Tuitt and Alualu. Fix the lines.

I don’t know how to insert, but there’s a twitter clip of Greene doing a reverse sit-up, I.e., kneeling with hands at sides, lowering whole body straight to floor, touching chin, and raising straight back up to kneeling. I think he’s plenty strong. His problem is he can’t chew gum and block, or snap, move, or get set. Hasn’t played much at center, maybe he’ll learn, maybe not.
Also, perhaps Dotson’s doghouse is because he didn’t work on snapping off season for at least position “flexibility” if not a try at the position.

I too believe Green probably has more (core and lower body) strength than what's showing in his play. It sounds like what you're describing is him doing Nordic hamstring curls -- they show your hamstring strength, obviously. I think Tyreek Hill did a bunch this past year and posted it.

I do think he needs to get a lot stronger in his upper body, though. Right now, when he gets bulled or has to move a 350 pounder his upper and lower body don't seem to work together. It looks like his upper body quickly fails him first then he just tries to muscle it with his core and lower half, and they start to give way shortly there after.

To me, Green is a very good athlete (for a guy his size) trying to be a good center. I hope he gets with a coach that can really focus on his movements/techniques that will match his mind, speed and strength (and get stronger up top). Because right now...he's all over the place and sort of a mess. I have some doubts he'll reach his potential. I certainly hope I'm wrong, because I think there is something to work with, athlete-wise.

He kind of reminds me of Patrick Ricard, the Ravens do all FB; a very good athlete for his size. The difference is that Ricard has honed his techniques/talents into useable football skills -- Green isn't quite there yet, imo.

This was also only his 4th year of playing o line, and he had shit coaching in college. IMO, he obviously hit the wall, and needs to spend the off season with Lecharles Bentley or someone of similar size that can teach him how to use it correctly.

[Riverrat]

I'm in the Linderbaum camp. He is constantly getting to the second level and is very active active. Time to rebuild the line, early and often in the draft.

[AirRescueFF]

Ben says Green should be moved to G.

[alancac98]

The OL has consistently improved

It would be damn dumb to give up on the current OL before the end of next year

The last thing this team should do on draft day is spend a 1 or 2 on the OL

The Steelers need starter quality help all over the team

Dotson and Moore have the tools and measurements to play well

Green is a fighter

Do you really wanna spend premium draft capital on a RG or RT ??

Fucking right I do!!! POS line equals POS run game equals POS offence! Games are won in the trenches first and foremost, then everything else comes into play. If you suck in the Trenches (this is currently where this team is), your going to suck as a football team - and we fucking suck right now!

[alancac98]

A center that can play well in the afc north in the Steelers scheme is not easy to find

This team has years of work to do to be competitive

There is zero need to force center to be fixed right now

The smarter move is to fill positions as they present themselves with good fits

It’s not like this team is 1 or 2 players away

I continue to wonder if you know anything about football at all! Basic offensive football 101: we all now QB is #1, but C, RG, LG are #'s 2,3,4, You build the interior line to be strong and you can virtually run on anyone. You can always help your Tackles with TE's and chipping OLB t o slow them down (unless it's Watt). I want Linderbaum - he's a nasty SOB at Center and will immediately make the line 10x better than it has been this year. Hass played extremely well, but Linderbaum will magnify that by 5x as well. I would move Dotson to RG and either draft a LG or another LT. Personally, I think LeGlue, Linderbaum, Dotson through the middle would make a really solid Oline core. I've been impressed with Leglue, Turner sucks ass, and Dotson performed extremally well there last year. Harris will have a much nicer year running behind that core. You could basically keep Moore at LT, but a quality FA LT signing would move Moore to RT. Then you have a line!

[Gonzo]

I'm in the Linderbaum camp. He is constantly getting to the second level and is very active active. Time to rebuild the line, early and often in the draft.

I was not … but have changed my mind and would be good with taking him with our first pick

[SteelerDayTrader]

Linderbaum is 6’2 285 as a star player at a football factory

He is way too small to play in the AFC North

You don’t draft RT or RG with premium draft capital unless you are a perennial CCG level team or better that is LOADED

The Steelers shouldn’t draft any lineman less than 320/6’4

Additionally

Most of the BPA hype is just press conference bs.....but....when you are a very low talent team like the Steelers BPA makes sense

The Steelers need to focus on drafting great impact players at the most important positions early in the draft but the fact remains the Steelers lack quality talent at several positions

Zero need to force a reach on a team that is several years away from being relevant

Let the draft fall to you. Don’t reach. Use top draft capital for positions you can’t fill later

[DP39]

Linderbaum is 6’2 285 as a star player at a football factory

He is way too small to play in the AFC North

You don’t draft RT or RG with premium draft capital unless you are a perennial CCG level team or better that is LOADED

The Steelers shouldn’t draft any lineman less than 320/6’4

Additionally

Most of the BPA hype is just press conference bs.....but....when you are a very low talent team like the Steelers BPA makes sense

The Steelers need to focus on drafting great impact players at the most important positions early in the draft but the fact remains the Steelers lack quality talent at several positions

Zero need to force a reach on a team that is several years away from being relevant

Let the draft fall to you. Don’t reach. Use top draft capital for positions you can’t fill later

Linderbaum is 6’3 292 and the most technically sound linemen (much less Center) to come out of the draft in quite some time. Maybe you haven't actually watched him play. He handles large men 6'4+ 340+ with great power, leverage (wrestling background) and perfect movement and hand technique very very well. If anything, he struggles just a smidge with smaller, really quick DLs. He'll be more plug and play than Mo Pouncey (1" taller and 12 lbs heavier) was for his first 5-10 years.

Rodney Hudson 6'2 less than 300 lbs. (one of the best in the biz for many years)
Jason Kelce 6'2 282 (also one of the best in the biz for many years)
Corey Linsley 6'3 298 (very very good and handles the beasts in the NFC North)
Hell, Dermontti Dawson was 6'2 288 (I know a different era but things worked out pretty well there.)

I think whoever drafts him is going to get similar or better returns than some of his fellow Hawkeyes (Yanda, Bulaga) provided.

Kid is a flat out can't miss stud. He's a much smarter, way way more physically talented Jeff Saturday (HOF?), imo. I'd take that all day long, everyday, with my first round pick.

He certainly fits both our need and PBA (I agree on your take on the PBA BS that Tombert both spew). Sign me up!

[bradshaw2ben]

I'm in the Linderbaum camp. He is constantly getting to the second level and is very active active. Time to rebuild the line, early and often in the draft.

He's also 290lbs. Can he win, giving away 45-50lbs to the Nose tackles of the NFL? Yes he'll get a little bigger, but so did those guys on the other side from when they were measured.

[bradshaw2ben]

Linderbaum is 6’2 285 as a star player at a football factory

He is way too small to play in the AFC North

You don’t draft RT or RG with premium draft capital unless you are a perennial CCG level team or better that is LOADED

The Steelers shouldn’t draft any lineman less than 320/6’4

Additionally

Most of the BPA hype is just press conference bs.....but....when you are a very low talent team like the Steelers BPA makes sense

The Steelers need to focus on drafting great impact players at the most important positions early in the draft but the fact remains the Steelers lack quality talent at several positions

Zero need to force a reach on a team that is several years away from being relevant

Let the draft fall to you. Don’t reach. Use top draft capital for positions you can’t fill later

Linderbaum is 6’3 292 and the most technically sound linemen (much less Center) to come out of the draft in quite some time. Maybe you haven't actually watched him play. He handles large men 6'4+ 340+ with great power, leverage (wrestling background) and perfect movement and hand technique very very well. If anything, he struggles just a smidge with smaller, really quick DLs. He'll be more plug and play than Mo Pouncey (1" taller and 12 lbs heavier) was for his first 5-10 years.

Rodney Hudson 6'2 less than 300 lbs. (one of the best in the biz for many years)
Jason Kelce 6'2 282 (also one of the best in the biz for many years)
Corey Linsley 6'3 298 (very very good and handles the beasts in the NFC North)
Hell, Dermontti Dawson was 6'2 288 (I know a different era but things worked out pretty well there.)

I think whoever drafts him is going to get similar or better returns than some of his fellow Hawkeyes (Yanda, Bulaga) provided.

Kid is a flat out can't miss stud. He's a much smarter, way way more physically talented Jeff Saturday (HOF?), imo. I'd take that all day long, everyday, with my first round pick.

He certainly fits both our need and PBA (I agree on your take on the PBA BS that Tombert both spew). Sign me up!

Go back and watch his bowl game. Marquan McCall (admittedly a huge and pretty good prospect in his own right) was a difficult matchup for Linderbaum--mixed results as the game went on. He's not going to jump in and be dominant vs bigger and stronger guys in the NFL-- it's not like he's coming from the SEC, where a lot more IDL are NFL sized athletes. Linderbaum is just a better, more polished version of Green, shorter version of Pouncey. He'll have the same issues with big dudes inside and he'll be extremely good on the move. When he's playing in the box or playng power football, he dominates smaller or similar sized players and he's great at reaching the target when on the move. But big, athletic dudes inside will be tricky for him.

So, bottom line, he's not can't miss, which I think he'd have to be for me to want to pick him in the top 20, with so many needs and no QB yet. To take him when there is a franchise LT or a superstar LB who could change your culture/make game-changing plays... that's just not right.

[bradshaw2ben]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W64Na5Ke_o0

Iowa vs Kentucky for reference.

[bradshaw2ben]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W64Na5Ke_o0

Iowa vs Kentucky for reference.

EDIT: Eh, I re-watched. Linderbaum did better than I thought. Sometimes got pushed back but did a great job re-anchoring.

[DP39]

I'm in the Linderbaum camp. He is constantly getting to the second level and is very active active. Time to rebuild the line, early and often in the draft.

He's also 290lbs. Can he win, giving away 45-50lbs to the Nose tackles of the NFL? Yes he'll get a little bigger, but so did those guys on the other side from when they were measured.

He's probably one of the strongest/stoutest 290+ centers around. He also uses great footwork, leverage (has a wrestling & DLmen background), pad level, and hand placement to gain a consistent advantage over much larger men.

Just in this last Bowl game against UK, up until he got his left ankle/heel messed up by his LG stepping on it (which he returned to play thru), he was abusing the combo of UK's 379 lbs & 336 lbs NT/DLs. He had #50 (379lb Sr NT) so frustrated, exhausted, and pissed off it was sort of funny to watch.

[COR-TEN]

Brooke Pryor
@bepryor
Ben Roethlisberger on
@DVERADIO
says Dan Moore got a high ankle sprain in 1Q vs. CLE.

"He's the left tackle of the future for this football team, and he's going to be very good at it."

Says Kendrick Green should get moved to guard and will dominate because of his passion, fire

[SteelerDayTrader]

Linderbaum is 6’2 285 as a star player at a football factory

He is way too small to play in the AFC North

You don’t draft RT or RG with premium draft capital unless you are a perennial CCG level team or better that is LOADED

The Steelers shouldn’t draft any lineman less than 320/6’4

Additionally

Most of the BPA hype is just press conference bs.....but....when you are a very low talent team like the Steelers BPA makes sense

The Steelers need to focus on drafting great impact players at the most important positions early in the draft but the fact remains the Steelers lack quality talent at several positions

Zero need to force a reach on a team that is several years away from being relevant

Let the draft fall to you. Don’t reach. Use top draft capital for positions you can’t fill later

Linderbaum is 6’3 292 and the most technically sound linemen (much less Center) to come out of the draft in quite some time. Maybe you haven't actually watched him play. He handles large men 6'4+ 340+ with great power, leverage (wrestling background) and perfect movement and hand technique very very well. If anything, he struggles just a smidge with smaller, really quick DLs. He'll be more plug and play than Mo Pouncey (1" taller and 12 lbs heavier) was for his first 5-10 years.

Rodney Hudson 6'2 less than 300 lbs. (one of the best in the biz for many years)
Jason Kelce 6'2 282 (also one of the best in the biz for many years)
Corey Linsley 6'3 298 (very very good and handles the beasts in the NFC North)
Hell, Dermontti Dawson was 6'2 288 (I know a different era but things worked out pretty well there.)

I think whoever drafts him is going to get similar or better returns than some of his fellow Hawkeyes (Yanda, Bulaga) provided.

Kid is a flat out can't miss stud. He's a much smarter, way way more physically talented Jeff Saturday (HOF?), imo. I'd take that all day long, everyday, with my first round pick.

He certainly fits both our need and PBA (I agree on your take on the PBA BS that Tombert both spew). Sign me up!

Linderbaum can’t play for the Steelers

If you don’t understand why I’m not gonna waste time dealing with you

He will routinely get his ass handed to him playing for the Steelers

[alancac98]

Linderbaum is 6’2 285 as a star player at a football factory

He is way too small to play in the AFC North

You don’t draft RT or RG with premium draft capital unless you are a perennial CCG level team or better that is LOADED

The Steelers shouldn’t draft any lineman less than 320/6’4

Additionally

Most of the BPA hype is just press conference bs.....but....when you are a very low talent team like the Steelers BPA makes sense

The Steelers need to focus on drafting great impact players at the most important positions early in the draft but the fact remains the Steelers lack quality talent at several positions

Zero need to force a reach on a team that is several years away from being relevant

Let the draft fall to you. Don’t reach. Use top draft capital for positions you can’t fill later

Linderbaum is 6’3 292 and the most technically sound linemen (much less Center) to come out of the draft in quite some time. Maybe you haven't actually watched him play. He handles large men 6'4+ 340+ with great power, leverage (wrestling background) and perfect movement and hand technique very very well. If anything, he struggles just a smidge with smaller, really quick DLs. He'll be more plug and play than Mo Pouncey (1" taller and 12 lbs heavier) was for his first 5-10 years.

Rodney Hudson 6'2 less than 300 lbs. (one of the best in the biz for many years)
Jason Kelce 6'2 282 (also one of the best in the biz for many years)
Corey Linsley 6'3 298 (very very good and handles the beasts in the NFC North)
Hell, Dermontti Dawson was 6'2 288 (I know a different era but things worked out pretty well there.)

I think whoever drafts him is going to get similar or better returns than some of his fellow Hawkeyes (Yanda, Bulaga) provided.

Kid is a flat out can't miss stud. He's a much smarter, way way more physically talented Jeff Saturday (HOF?), imo. I'd take that all day long, everyday, with my first round pick.

He certainly fits both our need and PBA (I agree on your take on the PBA BS that Tombert both spew). Sign me up!

Linderbaum can’t play for the Steelers

If you don’t understand why I’m not gonna waste time dealing with you

He will routinely get his ass handed to him playing for the Steelers

Sure, sure, then he will go to another club that will play the big bad AFC North Defenses and kick their collective asses - then what will you say. Yep, let's go 2 Wr's with blazing speed to stretch the field, that we can't use because our offensive line gives our stud QB (Pickett in your dream) has 1.5 seconds to unload the football before he gets drilled by one of the 350lb DLmen from the AFC North. Absolutely fucking brilliant! BTW, we don't have a run game either and are consistently seeing 8 guys in the box like we are this year because they will have no respect for our POS 2 yard throws. Sounds like a sound offensive strategy that should propel our offence to a top 10 unit! Again, the trenches, the trenches, the trenches!!!

[Steelperch]

The OL has consistently improved

It would be damn dumb to give up on the current OL before the end of next year

The last thing this team should do on draft day is spend a 1 or 2 on the OL

The Steelers need starter quality help all over the team

Dotson and Moore have the tools and measurements to play well

Green is a fighter

Do you really wanna spend premium draft capital on a RG or RT ??

The Steelers have not drafted an Offensive linemen in the 1st or 2nd rounds in 10 years.
The Steelers have not drafted an Offensive lineman in the 1st or 2nd rounds in.............A DECADE

The Steelers went into the draft KNOWING, that they would not be returning ALL 5 starters from opening day 2020.
AV, MF, MO, DD, ZB...... Banner started as the RT opening game in 2020.

In the last 9 drafts....the Steelers have drafted TWO offensive lineman in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
Two, 3rd rounders....pick 87 Green and pick 92 in Chucks.

28 picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds in the last 9 years ......... TWO 3RD ROUND OL PICKS

So we wonder why the offensive line has been the biggest problem for this team in 2021.

Draft 2 OL in the first 4 picks.
DL with another top 4 pick.
ILB / CB / SS with the 4th of top 4 picks.

It’s worse than that. The 2nd round O linemen they did draft essentially cost them two first round picks and may have prevented them from winning another SB. If you recall Mike Adams was supposedly a borderline first round pick. Then he got popped for weed at the combine killing his draft stock. He was a Steelers fan and reached out to the Rooney family and gave them a sob story. Boom, he’s back on their draft board. The Steelers had a need at ILB and have Lavonte David highly rated. David profiled very closely to Derrick Brooks, a player Tomlin coached on that Bucs D.

Steelers take the pot head Adams who is a massive bust, 2 spots later Lavonte David is selected. Steelers then go on and draft Sean Spence in the next round who got hurt and busted. Two years later Shazier in the 1st, who got injured and had career cut short. Then 5 years later desperate for ILB help, they trade picks 1-2-3 to take Devin Bush who appears to be a bust. Meanwhile Lavonte David is still playing at a high level.

Steelers gave away two 1sts, two 2nds and two 3rds essentially all wasted because they took Adams over David. It’s the biggest fuck up of the Tomlin/Colbert era. All because the pothead Steelers fan wrote a sob story letter. Fucking shit!

[Ice]

Hadn't thought of it that way. Damn.

[fractalsteel]

Linderbaum is a center, albeit an undersized one.
I watched him 3 times this year. Technically he has it all. I'm just worried that he is maxed out in size.
Another concern is a lack of position flexibility. Most scouts think he is a center only. I'm not sure I would burn a top 12 pick on a center only unless I was sure he was Stephenson or Dawson.
Then again, Stephenson probably couldn't play in today's NFL unless he could morph his body to put on 40 pounds.

At 17 or so, I would love to go in another direction(big nasty multi positional OL) but I wouldn't hate the pick if it was Linderbaum.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Here is the Rooney approach to OL since Noll left

Grok you push man back when run

Grok you stay in front of man when pass

That’s it

Balt Cleve Cincy and others will eat Linderbum alive if he plays for the Steelers

I have zero doubt he could be ok on many other teams

For the Steelers he will get stomped on

Drafting in the top 20 for a very bad team needs to be a lot more than a pipsqueak type center who has zero chance of being successful in your scheme

I get it. White guy center and a good portion of Steeler Nation gets a hard on lol but this guy can’t succeed in the Steelers caveman offense

[alancac98]

I really don't think anyone needs to worry about the Steelers choosing Linderbaum - I don't think it will happen. Remember, dumb fuck Tomlin has a different view point when it comes to the oline and offensive philosophy - you can build the line or give the QB weapons. I think Dumblin will once again go to the weapons well and the Steelers will choose the best WR on the board. Yes, the WR room needs some serious talent upgrades, but the run game needs vast improvement, which Dumblin will totally ignore. After all, Harris rushed for over 1000 yards with the shit Oline we have, so he will think all is good in that area.

[alancac98]

Here is the Rooney approach to OL since Noll left

Grok you push man back when run

Grok you stay in front of man when pass

That’s it

Balt Cleve Cincy and others will eat Linderbum alive if he plays for the Steelers

I have zero doubt he could be ok on many other teams

For the Steelers he will get stomped on

Drafting in the top 20 for a very bad team needs to be a lot more than a pipsqueak type center who has zero chance of being successful in your scheme

I get it. White guy center and a good portion of Steeler Nation gets a hard on lol but this guy can’t succeed in the Steelers caveman offense

Why do you have to bring race into the equation. If the dude was black, we would still be pounding the table to draft him. It's about the best guys for the team - not best black/white guy for the team. Get a fucking grip. You are making yourself a senseless, useless, racist piece of trash! Try and be better than that! (I know - I'm asking too much but heh, gotta dream big right?)

[Jizz Mop]

Why can’t Haeg be a part of the line going forward?

Haeg LT while we groom future one via draft

Dotson will be back

Move Moore to RT

Draft a center or via FA

Upgrade other guard spot

Don’t think Green is gonna work out at guard

[SteelerDayTrader]

Here is the Rooney approach to OL since Noll left

Grok you push man back when run

Grok you stay in front of man when pass

That’s it

Balt Cleve Cincy and others will eat Linderbum alive if he plays for the Steelers

I have zero doubt he could be ok on many other teams

For the Steelers he will get stomped on

Drafting in the top 20 for a very bad team needs to be a lot more than a pipsqueak type center who has zero chance of being successful in your scheme

I get it. White guy center and a good portion of Steeler Nation gets a hard on lol but this guy can’t succeed in the Steelers caveman offense

Why do you have to bring race into the equation. If the dude was black, we would still be pounding the table to draft him. It's about the best guys for the team - not best black/white guy for the team. Get a fucking grip. You are making yourself a senseless, useless, racist piece of trash! Try and be better than that! (I know - I'm asking too much but heh, gotta dream big right?)

Lolololz

I doesn’t surprise me you respond the way you do

You are one of the worst imo

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

Well Tomlin and Canada...

you wasted your chances, you wasted your time.

you are going to waste a chance to get into the playoffs because you are both morons.

should have let Ben call things... because the both of you are unimaginative fuck ups.

[Jobu]