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Re: How did Pickett look?

Post by COR-TEN » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:00 pm

RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:56 pm
Pickett presser:

https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1576675700358127616
Maybe it's late for me, maybe I've had one too many gin and tonics, but this dude has the attitude and demeanor to be good to great.

Whether or not he reaches that goal? Who knows. I just like his "fuck you and the horse you rode in on." attitude. He's definitely got a chip on his shoulder.

Meanwhile. . .

Biscuit is afraid of his shadow.
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Post by K_C_ » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:03 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:00 pm
RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:56 pm
Pickett presser:

https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1576675700358127616
Maybe it's late for me, maybe I've had one too many gin and tonics, but this dude has the attitude and demeanor to be good to great.

Whether or not he reaches that goal? Who knows. I just like his "fuck you and the horse you rode in on." He's definitely got a chip on his shoulder.

Meanwhile. . .

Biscuit is afraid of his shadow.
Mitch Trubisky is the worst Steelers QB I've watched since Kent Graham.

Trubisky absolutely has no balls.

In fact, I believe that's why Tomlin removed him.

Mitch simply played REALLY scared football today and I think Tomlin had finally seen enough.
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Post by drmalba » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:14 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:03 pm
COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:00 pm
RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:56 pm
Pickett presser:

https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1576675700358127616
Maybe it's late for me, maybe I've had one too many gin and tonics, but this dude has the attitude and demeanor to be good to great.

Whether or not he reaches that goal? Who knows. I just like his "fuck you and the horse you rode in on." He's definitely got a chip on his shoulder.

Meanwhile. . .

Biscuit is afraid of his shadow.
Mitch Trubisky is the worst Steelers QB I've watched since Kent Graham.

Trubisky absolutely has no balls.

In fact, I believe that's why Tomlin removed him.

Mitch simply played REALLY scared football today and I think Tomlin had finally seen enough.
I agree. I don't think Tomlin - or for that matter anyone here - envisioned going to KP this early in the season. Credit him for making that call, in the middle of a game that was still pretty close. Now we will see where it goes.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:19 pm

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Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:59 pm
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The pass he made down the seam to Friermuth with a pass rusher in his face was the best pass of the season for the Steelers. His movement was good in and out of the pocket especially compared to Trubisky who sucks. The INT that cost the team the game was an unnecessary pass that was wildly inaccurate for no reason.

I saw a lot of what made him a good player last year. Still concerned his ceiling is decent starter at best.
The pass to Freiermuth while he was getting smacked was a tremendous throw.
But it was also the exact same throw from the Jags game in preseason. He is doing everything he did in the preseason game, so it wasn’t a surprise to me.

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Post by K_C_ » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:20 pm

drmalba wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:14 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:03 pm
COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:00 pm
Maybe it's late for me, maybe I've had one too many gin and tonics, but this dude has the attitude and demeanor to be good to great.

Whether or not he reaches that goal? Who knows. I just like his "fuck you and the horse you rode in on." He's definitely got a chip on his shoulder.

Meanwhile. . .

Biscuit is afraid of his shadow.
Mitch Trubisky is the worst Steelers QB I've watched since Kent Graham.

Trubisky absolutely has no balls.

In fact, I believe that's why Tomlin removed him.

Mitch simply played REALLY scared football today and I think Tomlin had finally seen enough.
I agree. I don't think Tomlin - or for that matter anyone here - envisioned going to KP this early in the season. Credit him for making that call, in the middle of a game that was still pretty close. Now we will see where it goes.
Yep. As Gumbel and whoever the other dude was in the broadcast booth said, there were absolutely no signs the Steelers were preparing to play Pickett.

But 3 points, at home, vs the Jets coming off an absolutely AWFUL second half in Cleveland...I believe Tomlin simply saw enough of Mitch and his overall ineptness and lack of really any positives. ANY positives.

Trubisky didn't even look pissed on the sidelines when Kenny took his job. He almost looked relieved.
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Post by RemoAZ » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:24 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:03 pm
COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:00 pm
RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:56 pm
Pickett presser:

https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1576675700358127616
Maybe it's late for me, maybe I've had one too many gin and tonics, but this dude has the attitude and demeanor to be good to great.

Whether or not he reaches that goal? Who knows. I just like his "fuck you and the horse you rode in on." He's definitely got a chip on his shoulder.

Meanwhile. . .

Biscuit is afraid of his shadow.
Mitch Trubisky is the worst Steelers QB I've watched since Kent Graham.

Trubisky absolutely has no balls.

In fact, I believe that's why Tomlin removed him.

Mitch simply played REALLY scared football today and I think Tomlin had finally seen enough.
There's either confidence or intelligence missing from Trubisky. The physical ability looks to be there. He's exactly opposite of Mason who doesn't have the physical ability to be an NFL QB. The good news is Kenny looks like he might be the real deal. Hopefully they leave him in there and he stays healthy all year and that continues to prove itself out so they just need to find a backup next season and can spend the high draft picks fixing other areas. I love the confidence and finally getting to watch someone other than Ben that uses footwork and mechanics to step into throws. I was beginning to think we weren't allowed to bring in QBs that could throw NFL quality balls anymore. He's accurate. throws a tight spiral and uses the whole field. Funny how much you appreciate the little things when they're taken away. I was dreading that Bills matchup next week. Now I'm looking forward to seeing what Pickett will can do with a full week of 1st team reps against an elite team.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:26 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:57 pm
Pabst wrote:
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Family obligations forced me to miss today's game (I was able to check the score in the first half, so I wasn't in any hurry to get home).

Last time I missed a Steelers game in it's entirety was Week 2 2004. Take that for what it's worth.

From what I've seen, at least 1 pick wasn't Pickett's fault. How did he look today?
The Hail Mary was definitely not his fault. The sideline ball was not a great decision but more a bad bounce from an inaccurate throw.

The first one was severely under thrown in the deep middle vs double coverage. Usually that does not end well, even though Claypool got back to it and didn’t outfight a 5’8” safety.
I think Friermuth was trying to tip it to himself. Should have just caught it and trusted his jump, hands and timing. Not accurate per Pickett too. Said he wanted it to be higher so only he could get it or miss it.

The Claypool pass was under thrown? Probably, but I am not sure if he could have thrown him open like you said in another post of yours B2B. I think it would have run into interference no matter where he threw it. The actual pass might have been the most catchable the way it ended up.

Claypool just not fundamentally sound. Zero body control. No thought of high point or combat catch. Look at his bent arms. The ball was deflected almost as soon as it hit his hands. Had he extended his arms he probably catches it.

In the picture below, the ball is still moving towards him.
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Post by drmalba » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:30 pm

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Trubisky didn't even look pissed on the sidelines when Kenny took his job. He almost looked relieved.
That wasn't relief. That was the look of a guy who will never get a starting gig again in his career.

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Post by K_C_ » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:30 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:26 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:57 pm
Pabst wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:25 pm
Family obligations forced me to miss today's game (I was able to check the score in the first half, so I wasn't in any hurry to get home).

Last time I missed a Steelers game in it's entirety was Week 2 2004. Take that for what it's worth.

From what I've seen, at least 1 pick wasn't Pickett's fault. How did he look today?
The Hail Mary was definitely not his fault. The sideline ball was not a great decision but more a bad bounce from an inaccurate throw.

The first one was severely under thrown in the deep middle vs double coverage. Usually that does not end well, even though Claypool got back to it and didn’t outfight a 5’8” safety.
I think Friermuth was trying to tip it to himself. Should have just caught it and trusted his jump, hands and timing. Not accurate per Pickett too. Said he wanted it to be higher so only he could get it or miss it.

The Claypool pass was under thrown? Probably, but I am not sure if he could have thrown him open like you said in another post of yours B2B. I think it would have run into interference no matter where he threw it. The actual pass might have been the most catchable the way it ended up.

Claypool just not fundamentally sound. Zero body control. No thought of high point or combat catch. Look at his bent arms. The ball was deflected almost as soon as it hit his hands. Had he extended his arms he probably catches it.

In the picture below, the ball is still moving towards him.
Maybe it happened his rookie year, but I have never seen Claypool win on a 50/50 ball.

Hell, the photo you're showing is more an 80/20 ball in Claypool's favor and he couldn't come down with it

Great photo, Lakecrest.
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Post by Mick » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:38 pm

I wonder when the last time the steelers went a half without punting was before today.

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Post by kramer » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:45 pm

Pabst wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:25 pm
Family obligations forced me to miss today's game (I was able to check the score in the first half, so I wasn't in any hurry to get home).

Last time I missed a Steelers game in it's entirety was Week 2 2004. Take that for what it's worth.

From what I've seen, at least 1 pick wasn't Pickett's fault. How did he look today?
Significantly better than Trubisky

Worse than Ben when he threw 12TDs in 2 games
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:45 pm

Pickett reminded me of Bubby Brister
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Post by kramer » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:45 pm

Mick wrote:
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I wonder when the last time the steelers went a half without punting was before today.
One of the 6TD games by Ben?

Maybe the Dilly Dilly game
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Post by kramer » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:46 pm

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Pickett reminded me of Bubby Brister
It's collective agreement that Maddox > Brister, right?

If that's the case, it's as least even - which is still better than Trubisky
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Post by kramer » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:47 pm

drmalba wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:30 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:20 pm

Trubisky didn't even look pissed on the sidelines when Kenny took his job. He almost looked relieved.
That wasn't relief. That was the look of a guy who will never get a starting gig again in his career.
He looked crushed. Devastated.

From a mental/emotional perspective I feel horrible for him. That has to be crushing.

From the teams' - it's what's best. Time for Kenny to sink or swim.
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Post by fractalsteel » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:52 pm

drmalba wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:14 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:03 pm
COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:00 pm
Maybe it's late for me, maybe I've had one too many gin and tonics, but this dude has the attitude and demeanor to be good to great.

Whether or not he reaches that goal? Who knows. I just like his "fuck you and the horse you rode in on." He's definitely got a chip on his shoulder.

Meanwhile. . .

Biscuit is afraid of his shadow.
Mitch Trubisky is the worst Steelers QB I've watched since Kent Graham.

Trubisky absolutely has no balls.

In fact, I believe that's why Tomlin removed him.

Mitch simply played REALLY scared football today and I think Tomlin had finally seen enough.
I agree. I don't think Tomlin - or for that matter anyone here - envisioned going to KP this early in the season. Credit him for making that call, in the middle of a game that was still pretty close. Now we will see where it goes.
Not to mention going for it on 4th and short from your own 32 yard line on Kenny's first pro drive. If that was Mitch at QB Mikey punts.

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Post by kramer » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:56 pm

fractalsteel wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:52 pm
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Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:14 pm
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Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:03 pm


Mitch Trubisky is the worst Steelers QB I've watched since Kent Graham.

Trubisky absolutely has no balls.

In fact, I believe that's why Tomlin removed him.

Mitch simply played REALLY scared football today and I think Tomlin had finally seen enough.
I agree. I don't think Tomlin - or for that matter anyone here - envisioned going to KP this early in the season. Credit him for making that call, in the middle of a game that was still pretty close. Now we will see where it goes.
Not to mention going for it on 4th and short from your own 32 yard line on Kenny's first pro drive. If that was Mitch at QB Mikey punts.
I truly do give Tomlin props for putting in Pickett at half. Should he have done it sooner? Probably, sure. He at least gave Trubisky a shot to bury his own grave.

8 should have won the job out of camp, but at least he didn't waste the next month with Trubisky taking snaps and game experience away from Pickett
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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:58 pm

Mitch looked like a guy in a new offense, who is not sure what he's going to be seeing, and worse yet - it did not seem to be getting any better.
Trubinsky is mobile, but I don't think he even knows when he should be running. I think the past few weeks they tried to dumb some things down, and I think that made it worse.

Pickett looks confident because I think he is. He's run this offense before. Yea, he has to clean up those passes that hit his receivers hands, but I think once he does that, he was 10-12 with two passes that hit both hands of his receivers, and used his legs effectively.

I know Pickett isn't an SEC guy or a Penn State guy, or whatever it is that provides a player this gravitas... but I think he's going to hold his own, and I think he's going to surprise people. There is so much left to see... what does he do when the game is on the line, what does he do when he gets to start, what does he do on the road.

Im far more excited with the rest of this season, might as well get on with it... I think watching Trubinsky got shell shocked... and watching any more of that was going to be tough - especially with Canada trying to protect him more and more.
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Post by K_C_ » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pm

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Biggest play of the game.
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Post by K_C_ » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:05 pm

kramer wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:47 pm
drmalba wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:30 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:20 pm

Trubisky didn't even look pissed on the sidelines when Kenny took his job. He almost looked relieved.
That wasn't relief. That was the look of a guy who will never get a starting gig again in his career.
He looked crushed. Devastated.

From a mental/emotional perspective I feel horrible for him. That has to be crushing.

From the teams' - it's what's best. Time for Kenny to sink or swim.
If that’s Mitch’s crushed and devastated look I hate to tell you, he looks like that all the time.
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Post by kramer » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:09 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:05 pm
kramer wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:47 pm
drmalba wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:30 pm

That wasn't relief. That was the look of a guy who will never get a starting gig again in his career.
He looked crushed. Devastated.

From a mental/emotional perspective I feel horrible for him. That has to be crushing.

From the teams' - it's what's best. Time for Kenny to sink or swim.
If that’s Mitch’s crushed and devastated look I hate to tell you, he looks like that all the time.
Man, that's the fucking truth.

He looks like he has the 1000 yard stare.

Constantly.
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Post by franco32 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:17 pm

Pickett has had to sneak in reps with Pickens, DJ, and Muth. He's not had the prep and timing with them at all because Trubisky has been hogging it. Thanks Tomlin. Even with that, he led us to a 10 point lead. Made some very nice throws. D should be ashamed of itself.

Btw, Pickett was rushed on his Hail Mary because Chuks was beaten again (not a good day for him). Kenny still threw it 66 yards in the air. Kid has plenty of arm.

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Post by zeke5123 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:18 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:26 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:57 pm
Pabst wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:25 pm
Family obligations forced me to miss today's game (I was able to check the score in the first half, so I wasn't in any hurry to get home).

Last time I missed a Steelers game in it's entirety was Week 2 2004. Take that for what it's worth.

From what I've seen, at least 1 pick wasn't Pickett's fault. How did he look today?
The Hail Mary was definitely not his fault. The sideline ball was not a great decision but more a bad bounce from an inaccurate throw.

The first one was severely under thrown in the deep middle vs double coverage. Usually that does not end well, even though Claypool got back to it and didn’t outfight a 5’8” safety.
I think Friermuth was trying to tip it to himself. Should have just caught it and trusted his jump, hands and timing. Not accurate per Pickett too. Said he wanted it to be higher so only he could get it or miss it.

The Claypool pass was under thrown? Probably, but I am not sure if he could have thrown him open like you said in another post of yours B2B. I think it would have run into interference no matter where he threw it. The actual pass might have been the most catchable the way it ended up.

Claypool just not fundamentally sound. Zero body control. No thought of high point or combat catch. Look at his bent arms. The ball was deflected almost as soon as it hit his hands. Had he extended his arms he probably catches it.

In the picture below, the ball is still moving towards him.
Safety was beat. So when the safety had to slow down, it was a bit easier because Claypool was going in the other direction faster. It was easier for the safety to get set for a pass that was thrown behind compared to Claypool.

It was a bad throw. The rookie had a decent number of good throws. We shall see in the coming weeks.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:19 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pm
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Post by zeke5123 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:19 pm

franco32 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:17 pm
Pickett has had to sneak in reps with Pickens, DJ, and Muth. He's not had the prep and timing with them at all because Trubisky has been hogging it. Thanks Tomlin. Even with that, he led us to a 10 point lead. Made some very nice throws. D should be ashamed of itself.

Btw, Pickett was rushed on his Hail Mary because Chuks was beaten again (not a good day for him). Kenny still threw it 66 yards in the air. Kid has plenty of arm.
Granted some of that 10 point lead was because Minkah got him the ball at the four.

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Post by Orangesteel » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:31 pm

Muth and Claypool need to apologize for Kenny.

Both those douchebags came up really small in the rooks first game. That ain’t how you help a dude out.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:40 pm

franco32 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:17 pm
Pickett has had to sneak in reps with Pickens, DJ, and Muth. He's not had the prep and timing with them at all because Trubisky has been hogging it. Thanks Tomlin. Even with that, he led us to a 10 point lead. Made some very nice throws. D should be ashamed of itself.

Btw, Pickett was rushed on his Hail Mary because Chuks was beaten again (not a good day for him). Kenny still threw it 66 yards in the air. Kid has plenty of arm.
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Post by langer » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:41 pm

Mitch Trubisky should never have started, and should never have been signed.

He is a loser, has the mindset of a loser and is not a killer. Pickett gives them some attitude, those angry diva WRs respond to that, I want to see him bitch that douceh Claypool out for being bad.

Mitch really seems to not relish leadership, which is kinda important. Weakness breeds weakness, dude is a walking self-fulfilling prophecy.

I liked what I saw from Pickett today. But that one half of one game. His passes were crisp and he moved the offense into using a different gear. Mitch had no idea how to do that and didn't want to learn from all appearances.

You now gotta make Rudy the backup.
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Post by Steelperch » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:42 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
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Muth and Claypool need to apologize for Kenny.

Both those douchebags came up really small in the rooks first game. That ain’t how you help a dude out.
Muth was literally the only thing worth a shit on offense most of the game. You’ll have to excuse him for not coming down with an awfully thrown high pass.

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Post by steelmann58 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:43 pm

Kenny should have throw that ball away

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