so who goes who stays

[Pickett's Platoon]

We need to trade away Clank Johnson first and foremost.

Trade the Trubiskinator as well.

Cut Shank Harvin.

Re-sign Larry O and kazee.

Draft a QB in the 6th or 7th and nab another UDFA

Draft another badass WR high

[K_C_]

We need to trade away Clank Johnson first and foremost.

Trade the Trubiskinator as well.

Cut Shank Harvin.

Re-sign Larry O and kazee.

Draft a QB in the 6th or 7th and nab another UDFA

Draft another badass WR high

Dude...why would ANYBODY trade for Mitch Trubisky?

[Pickett's Platoon]

We need to trade away Clank Johnson first and foremost.

Trade the Trubiskinator as well.

Cut Shank Harvin.

Re-sign Larry O and kazee.

Draft a QB in the 6th or 7th and nab another UDFA

Draft another badass WR high

Dude...why would ANYBODY trade for Mitch Trubisky?

I dunno. I asked myself why anyone would sign Clank Johnson to a massive contract, and it happened.

[K_C_]

We need to trade away Clank Johnson first and foremost.

Trade the Trubiskinator as well.

Cut Shank Harvin.

Re-sign Larry O and kazee.

Draft a QB in the 6th or 7th and nab another UDFA

Draft another badass WR high

Dude...why would ANYBODY trade for Mitch Trubisky?

I dunno. I asked myself why anyone would sign Clank Johnson to a massive contract, and it happened.

I think they panicked with Diontae. He was, at one time, pretty electric with the ball in his hands.

He isn't that guy anymore and he's broken beyond repair. I just hope the front office realizes it.

[cyberlaz]

Maybe TJ Watt will pull a Tom Brady and unretire. JJ is passed his prime, but he might be a big help on the D-Line next year, at least as a rotational guy.

I thought about this when I saw he was retiring. Maybe his brothers could talk him into it. Seems to me a guy like him would want a championship.

Two questions though...

1 - Can he still play?

2 - If he comes out of retirement doesn't Arizona have rights to him or something like that?

[steelmann58]

If someone gives us a legit offer for Clank Hands have to pull the trigger

[Gonzo]

No one is leaving except some bit pieces. They will draft CB, LB and DL …. Add depth in FA along OL
They are happy today … goal achieved 9-8 and hey we had a shot … that’s all you can ask

[Pickett's Platoon]

Dude...why would ANYBODY trade for Mitch Trubisky?

I dunno. I asked myself why anyone would sign Clank Johnson to a massive contract, and it happened.

I think they panicked with Diontae. He was, at one time, pretty electric with the ball in his hands.

Yeah, as long as the ball stays in his hands... and he doesn't run backwards, or land out of bounds, he's pretty good.

Seems like I saw all that crap happening over the past three years, but I could just be biased.

[Pickett's Platoon]

If someone gives us a legit offer for Clank Hands have to pull the trigger

Hell it would be a smart move to give up our 7th for someone to take on Clank's contract.

[Jobu]

2 - If he comes out of retirement doesn't Arizona have rights to him or something like that?

I think that depends on his contract status.

[stillthere]

I literally just read an article that Trubisky regrets signing with the team.

Also likely the team does t want to pay the back-up QB $10 million.

Much better chance they mend the fences with Rudolph.

I am thinking more along these lines and if Rudolph is smart he can become a long term QB2 and deposit checks for a decade.

[stillthere]

Maybe TJ Watt will pull a Tom Brady and unretire. JJ is passed his prime, but he might be a big help on the D-Line next year, at least as a rotational guy.

What are you giving the Cardinals for his rights?

[cop1211]

Keep Sutton,Kazee,Edmunds,Ogonjobi.

Add free agents LT Taylor Lewan (Tenn) DT Tomlinson (Min), ILB Edmunds (Buf)

Draft:
1.CB Joey Porter Jr. we all know if he's there they will sprint to the podium like they never sprinted before.

2a.OT Daniel Wright Tennessee

2b. CB Max Melton Rutgers

3.WR Josh Downs NC

4.OC/OG Ricky Stromberg Ark

7a.QB Grayson McCall Coastal Carolina

7b.RB Roschon Johnson Texas

2024
1.ILB
2.OC
3.DE
4.OLB
5.CB
6.OT
7.S

[stillthere]

Keep Sutton,Kazee,Edmunds,Ogonjobi.

Add free agents LT Taylor Lewan (Tenn) DT Tomlinson (Min), ILB Edmunds (Buf)

Draft:
1.CB Joey Porter Jr. we all know if he's there they will sprint to the podium like they never sprinted before.

2a.OT Daniel Wright Tennessee

2b. CB Max Melton Rutgers

3.WR Josh Downs NC

4.OC/OG Ricky Stromberg Ark

7a.QB Grayson McCall Coastal Carolina

7b.RB Roschon Johnson Texas

2024
1.ILB
2.OC
3.DE
4.OLB
5.CB
6.OT
7.S

Lewan has played about 7 games in the last 32+ that Tennessee has played in the last 23/4 months. I would pass on him and look for another player to pay.

[anpsteel]

Maybe TJ Watt will pull a Tom Brady and unretire. JJ is passed his prime, but he might be a big help on the D-Line next year, at least as a rotational guy.

I thought about this when I saw he was retiring. Maybe his brothers could talk him into it. Seems to me a guy like him would want a championship.

Two questions though...

1 - Can he still play?

2 - If he comes out of retirement doesn't Arizona have rights to him or something like that?

his contract is up. If he doesn't retire, he's a free agent

[anpsteel]

If someone gives us a legit offer for Clank Hands have to pull the trigger

Hell it would be a smart move to give up our 7th for someone to take on Clank's contract.

IMO, they'll have to absorb some of his contract, to get anyone to take him in trade

His constant mistakes make him a liability

[Pabst]

Don't mean to rain on the DJ hate parade here, but please keep some perspective:

His "massive contract" barely cracks the top 20 for WRs in terms of cap hit & average salary, and the UFA market for WRs is pretty barren (Juju is the top FA available). As frustrating as he was this season, you're not going to upgrade him, sorry. Creating another hole in the roster is a bad idea.

[K_C_]

Don't mean to rain on the DJ hate parade here, but please keep some perspective:

His "massive contract" barely cracks the top 20 for WRs in terms of cap hit & average salary, and the UFA market for WRs is pretty barren (Juju is the top FA available). As frustrating as he was this season, you're not going to upgrade him, sorry. Creating another hole in the roster is a bad idea.

Don't be shocked if the Steelers draft a WR pretty high in a few months. Diontae Johnson is literally getting worse yearly, not better.

He didn't catch one single TD pass. I know he was working with a rookie QB, but rookie WR George Pickens somehow managed to catch 4 TD passes.

Johnson was absolutely and brutally awful this past season. Pickens, again as a rookie second rounder, absolutely shit all over Johnson.

It would not be hard to upgrade DJ. At alll.

[Professor Half Wit]

Don't mean to rain on the DJ hate parade here, but please keep some perspective:

His "massive contract" barely cracks the top 20 for WRs in terms of cap hit & average salary, and the UFA market for WRs is pretty barren (Juju is the top FA available). As frustrating as he was this season, you're not going to upgrade him, sorry. Creating another hole in the roster is a bad idea.

Don't be shocked if the Steelers draft a WR pretty high in a few months. Diontae Johnson is literally getting worse yearly, not better.

He didn't catch one single TD pass. I know he was working with a rookie QB, but rookie WR George Pickens somehow managed to catch 4 TD passes.

Johnson was absolutely and brutally awful this past season. Pickens, again as a rookie second rounder, absolutely shit all over Johnson.

It would not be hard to upgrade DJ. At alll.

Not a single TD is as much if not more of an indictment on Canada's hapless ass than it is on DJ's.

[Pabst]

Don't mean to rain on the DJ hate parade here, but please keep some perspective:

His "massive contract" barely cracks the top 20 for WRs in terms of cap hit & average salary, and the UFA market for WRs is pretty barren (Juju is the top FA available). As frustrating as he was this season, you're not going to upgrade him, sorry. Creating another hole in the roster is a bad idea.

Don't be shocked if the Steelers draft a WR pretty high in a few months. Diontae Johnson is literally getting worse yearly, not better.

He didn't catch one single TD pass. I know he was working with a rookie QB, but rookie WR George Pickens somehow managed to catch 4 TD passes.

Johnson was absolutely and brutally awful this past season. Pickens, again as a rookie second rounder, absolutely shit all over Johnson.

It would not be hard to upgrade DJ. At alll.

Yes. Yes it would be. As mentioned, the best WR on the market this offseason is Juju. He had fewer receptions than DJ and 3 TDs.....and that's with the best QB in the NFL throwing him the ball and and elite TE eating coverage.

If you'd like a great argument against shipping off a WR with no backup plan, I'll point you to Tennessee.

[K_C_]

Don't mean to rain on the DJ hate parade here, but please keep some perspective:

His "massive contract" barely cracks the top 20 for WRs in terms of cap hit & average salary, and the UFA market for WRs is pretty barren (Juju is the top FA available). As frustrating as he was this season, you're not going to upgrade him, sorry. Creating another hole in the roster is a bad idea.

Don't be shocked if the Steelers draft a WR pretty high in a few months. Diontae Johnson is literally getting worse yearly, not better.

He didn't catch one single TD pass. I know he was working with a rookie QB, but rookie WR George Pickens somehow managed to catch 4 TD passes.

Johnson was absolutely and brutally awful this past season. Pickens, again as a rookie second rounder, absolutely shit all over Johnson.

It would not be hard to upgrade DJ. At alll.

Not a single TD is as much if not more of an indictment on Canada's hapless ass than it is on DJ's.

Um...no.

Johnson DROPPED at least 2 TD passes. Matt Canada can't run out there and catch them for him.

...and if I had a nickel for each time Johnson couldn't get both feet down, I'd have a few bucks.

Johnson SUCKS COCK.

Oh and explain his Keystone Cops running backwards on every catch thing? Is that Matt Canada's fault too?

[Pickett's Platoon]

Don't mean to rain on the DJ hate parade here, but please keep some perspective:

His "massive contract" barely cracks the top 20 for WRs in terms of cap hit & average salary, and the UFA market for WRs is pretty barren (Juju is the top FA available). As frustrating as he was this season, you're not going to upgrade him, sorry. Creating another hole in the roster is a bad idea.

Don't be shocked if the Steelers draft a WR pretty high in a few months. Diontae Johnson is literally getting worse yearly, not better.

He didn't catch one single TD pass. I know he was working with a rookie QB, but rookie WR George Pickens somehow managed to catch 4 TD passes.

Johnson was absolutely and brutally awful this past season. Pickens, again as a rookie second rounder, absolutely shit all over Johnson.

It would not be hard to upgrade DJ. At alll.

Anytime a WR has like 40 times the # of drops than he does TD's, something's wrong.

Getting rid of Clank would be addition by subtraction, even if he was on a vet minimum contract.

With what he's getting paid though, I'd seriously give up draft capitol if someone was willing to take on his contract.

[PennyBacker]

No sense in forcing RZ opportunities to a guy that's a 50/50 proposition to hold onto the ball, imo.

If only Johnson could *drop* about $6m of cap space for next year as he exited the building for the off-season. Then pick up about million tennis balls to get to work with. He played way better when he was busting his tail trying to prove himself.

[Pabst]

DJ had 5 drops on the season. Fewer than:
- Tyreek Hill (8)
- Davante Adams (6)
- Stefon Diggs (8)
- Jamar Chase (10)
- DK Metcalf (6)
- Jaylen Waddle (7)
- Travis Kelce (8)

Equal to: Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, AJ Brown


Hate to break this to everybody, but if you want to replace 80+ receptions and 800+ receiving yards, then you need to spend at least $20m+ on a free agent or you are using a #1 draft pick.

He's been top 20 in yards and receptions for 3 straight seasons. Yes, his lack of TD catches is a big red flag, but he was averaging 6+ TD catches in his first 3 seasons, so it's not like this has been a consistent problem.

I get that DJ is frustrating as hell, but he's an outside WR that can consistently get open. That's not something easily replaced.

[K_C_]

DJ had 5 drops on the season. Fewer than:
- Tyreek Hill (8)
- Davante Adams (6)
- Stefon Diggs (8)
- Jamar Chase (10)
- DK Metcalf (6)
- Jaylen Waddle (7)
- Travis Kelce (8)

Equal to: Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, AJ Brown


Hate to break this to everybody, but if you want to replace 80+ receptions and 800+ receiving yards, then you need to spend at least $20m+ on a free agent or you are using a #1 draft pick.

He's been top 20 in yards and receptions for 3 straight seasons. Yes, his lack of TD catches is a big red flag, but he was averaging 6+ TD catches in his first 3 seasons, so it's not like this has been a consistent problem.

I get that DJ is frustrating as hell, but he's an outside WR that can consistently get open. That's not something easily replaced.

Do they do a count where the receiver failed to get both feet in? If so, he's probably at about 12 there too.

....and he isn't in the same stratosphere as a player, as a single guy you listed above Johnson for drops.

[K_C_]

Oh wait, we need one more stat for DJ.

How many times a WR MORONICALLY ran backwards after making the catch and costing his team a first down?

Do you have a stat on that?

Wanna guess who would be the unanimous #1?

[Ice]

Don't mean to rain on the DJ hate parade here, but please keep some perspective:

His "massive contract" barely cracks the top 20 for WRs in terms of cap hit & average salary, and the UFA market for WRs is pretty barren (Juju is the top FA available). As frustrating as he was this season, you're not going to upgrade him, sorry. Creating another hole in the roster is a bad idea.

If cop's mock comes to pass and Downs from UNC is available in the 3rd, I might be willing to create that roster hole, and I was pretty happy with the DJ deal this offseason. I wasn't counting on the regression we saw. Thought the arrow was pointing up and the relatively short term deal would be motivating. I was dead wrong.

"Juju is the best FA available" is a sobering thought.

[Mick]

Oh wait, we need one more stat for DJ.

How many times a WR MORONICALLY ran backwards after making the catch and costing his team a first down?

Do you have a stat on that?

Wanna guess who would be the unanimous #1?

first people complain when receivers don’t see where the first down markers are and make sure they cross it,

Now people are complaining when a WR does clearly see the marker and makes sure he crosses it after the catch consistently. Make up your minds people.

[Pabst]

DJ had 5 drops on the season. Fewer than:
- Tyreek Hill (8)
- Davante Adams (6)
- Stefon Diggs (8)
- Jamar Chase (10)
- DK Metcalf (6)
- Jaylen Waddle (7)
- Travis Kelce (8)

Equal to: Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, AJ Brown


Hate to break this to everybody, but if you want to replace 80+ receptions and 800+ receiving yards, then you need to spend at least $20m+ on a free agent or you are using a #1 draft pick.

He's been top 20 in yards and receptions for 3 straight seasons. Yes, his lack of TD catches is a big red flag, but he was averaging 6+ TD catches in his first 3 seasons, so it's not like this has been a consistent problem.

I get that DJ is frustrating as hell, but he's an outside WR that can consistently get open. That's not something easily replaced.

Do they do a count where the receiver failed to get both feet in? If so, he's probably at about 12 there too.

....and he isn't in the same stratosphere as a player, as a single guy you listed above Johnson for drops.

Simple question: Who do you replace him with?

[Pabst]

Oh wait, we need one more stat for DJ.

How many times a WR MORONICALLY ran backwards after making the catch and costing his team a first down?

Do you have a stat on that?

Wanna guess who would be the unanimous #1?

first people complain when receivers don’t see where the first down markers are and make sure they cross it,

Now people are complaining when a WR does clearly see the marker and makes sure he crosses it after the catch consistently. Make up your minds people.

I'm not arguing that he makes frustrating drops and has bad habits, but the idea that he's easily replaced is nonsense.