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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:18 am

Right on schedule, Ravens pick Wiggins


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Post by chippedhamsandwich » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:27 am

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:18 am
Right on schedule, Ravens pick Wiggins
He can run but I am SURE that he will be out mutiple games each year because of his size.

Dude is a Najee/Warren hit from going on IR, mark it down..

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Post by breeze » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:52 am

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Not within the context of having drafted a R1 LT last year, who has yet to get to play the position he was drafted to play. We don’t need a new starter at G. We need a RT and C. Makes little sense to me to keep last year’s R1 LT at RT, where he looks rather pedestrian, and bring in an undersized LT. Knowing what we know about this coaching staff, they’re gonna try to make this kid a C. Makes NO good sense either way…
Tomlin said at a press conference last season that Broderick is considerably better on the left side. Don’t know how or when they plan to use him where he best fits.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:56 am

Seems they’re open to best fit going forward.🤔
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Post by Orangesteel » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:05 am

It’s simple. BrodFather to the LT position and Fautanu to RT. And then they kick some ass.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:11 am

Stillchest wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:08 am
Steelafan77 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:55 am

I wouldn’t go that far…. Moore is a fuckn’ turnstile and should have never been allowed to play LT.

Perhaps he slides inside to LG? With Jones and now Fautanu I would say an embarrassment of riches?
Steelers already have a decent LG.
MEH!….

I haven’t been impressed. I expected Seumalo to be more dominant. Also long in the tooth.

Perhaps it’s been a combination of subpar play by the surrounding cast?

Still have [Potentially] 3 more moves to make tomorrow and one could very well be a center.🤞

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Post by Ice » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:39 am

This draft is LOADED at CB. I wouldn't stress not getting one in the first. Or second. Or even third. There will be really nice options available at 4.119 on Saturday.
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Post by steelclan » Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:05 am

Stop focusing on Height. His feet, arms and nastiness are there. 34 inch arms, quick feet and he loves to bully.

He has a good anchor (sinks hips & can absorb bull rush) sets nicely in pass pro and plays with a FU attitude.

Height is not as important as arm length and foot movement especially if an OT doesn't have a powerful lower body (see Guyton) and struggles to bend.

Even if Fautanu doesn't work at OT... he has power and nastiness to work inside.

Given draft slot and needs hard to quibble with this pick.

Just for reference: Fuaga has 33 inch arms.

Fautanu was 2nd in athletic profile in OTs.

I did not think he would get near 20. I thought he would be 3rd off board behind Alt and Fashanu. I did not see Latham going so high.

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Post by cop1211 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:12 am

I wanted Mims, when the Bungles sniped him, I wanted Barton.
The Fatanu pick seems weird as far as who plays where. They tried that with Green at center which was a disaster, Texans play him at his natural position, he played decent, then you take Dotson and switch his position he looks like crap, Rams take him play him at his natural position which was RG and voila, he was one of the best guards in the league.
Barton is plug and play at center.

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Post by anpsteel » Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:48 am

A team that has 4 legit holes in the roster, and you pick a guy at a position already filled?


It’s shot like this that makes me want to punch Tomlin


This means they’ve committed to either playing this year’s, or last year’s, first round pick out of position

What a fucking dunce

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Post by Scunge » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:43 am

I had very mixed opinions on this year's tackle class.

I see a lot of prospects that are limited in a way, that are only able to play one position. Latham and Fuaga are RT only I think. Fashanu, the Penn St kid, I view as more of a finesse LT, I don't see him being as good of a run blocker. His arm length is shorter than Fautanu and Olu's hands are smaller than even Kenny Pickett. I think he is going to struggle more as a pro.

Mims?? 8 career starts? And he had trouble even finishing those 8 games without leaving the field to injury?? I am old enough to remember the likes of Tom Ricketts and Jaimain Stephens and I was standing up and cheering that the Bungals did us the favor of not drafting this tease. Sometimes these massive human beings can't stay healthy enough to stay on the field, many look at him and think a young Flozell Adams, I look at him and think another Zach Banner.

Troy Fautanu and Talies Fuaga were the top two tackles that I wanted to draft, that I thought we would be in position to draft and Barton was the consolation prize if both of them were taken. Fuaga would have made things nice and tidy, insert him as the RT, move Jones to LT and you are set for the next 4-5 years. What I like about Fautanu is the versatility. From what I have read he DID play RT in high school, it isn't foreign to him and at Washington he played LT with a couple of games at LG. What is sort of weird is that you can almost make the case that he was in essence the RT of that offense because his QB threw left-handed. When Troy was in pass protection, his QB could more clearly see the pressure and act accordingly.

If Troy were to come in and start at RT, the position he played in high school, he would still have the advantage of his now right-handed QBs being able to more clearly see the pressure. Whether in high school or college he really wasn't your typical BLINDSIDE LT protector was he???

That is not a knock on Troy, just an observation and how the circumstances worked out. I think he starts at RT, Jones moves to LT and it will take some time for them to adjust and get comfortable but that is a great luxury to have bookend tackles.

Tackles can be 6'3"-6'4" if their arms are long enough. Rashawn Slater had 33" long arms and was taken 13th overall by the Chargers and he made the ProBowl as a rookie. We drafted a kid out of SMU, Kelvin Beachum, over 12 years ago and all he has done is start 150 games as a Pro and is still playing, he is with Arizona. He is 6'3, 305 with 33 inch arms.

Troy Fautanu, is 6'3 3/4" 317 pounds, with 34 1/2" arms, runs a flat 5.0 40. I saw highlights where he has quickness and recovery to get back in position even when he was initially beaten. You don't see that very often with tackles, usually if they are beaten, they stay beaten and can only help pick up the QB after the sack. This may be a bad analogy, but think of how other QBs can look at a Pat Mahommes or Aaron Rodgers make off platform throws and be dumbfounded how they do it. I can't help but feel some tackles look at some of what Fautanu does in protection and marvel too, because his athleticism and nimbleness can make up for the times when his technique isn't stellar. Going back to the QB analogy, it is like the lesser QBs shaking their heads knowing that they would have to plant their feet, power their whole body into the throw but a Mahommes or Rodgers can just torque their upper body and fling the ball 50 yards and make that big play.

Here is another bad analogy, but hey, here you go, if we compare our current tackles, Fautanu, Jones and Moore Jr to say ILBs over the years, who is who?

Jones and Fautanu are like Ryan Shazier and Patrick Queen and Dan Moore would be like a Vince Williams or a Larry Foote.

I don't understand the hate for Dan Moore. He has played 3 seasons at LT against a murders row of pass rushers each and every year, practically each and every game. Myles Garrett twice a year, Trey Hendrickson twice a year, last season we saw Max Crosby, the Texans had Jonathan Greenard and Will Anderson, The Jags had Travon Walker and Josh Allen, it goes on and on, each and every game.

And most teams, the vast majority of teams will move their edge rushers around trying to get the most favorable matchup that they can and often times that meant targeting Dan Moore. I will tell you though that Kenny Pickett did him no favors by doing his patented spin move into the pressure. How many of Dan Moore's sacks over the past two years were a result of Pickett's happy feet and not simply stepping up into the pocket?? When Moore is pushing a pass rusher out past the arc, your QB is supposed to move forward, step up and make the throw, not spin to his left into the arc of that pass rusher. It drove me crazy watching Kenny devolve and get worse and worse this way. And I am going to beat Dan Moore up about that??? Nah. Dan Moore is a serviceable tackle who, yes, will end up leaving but will have a long career starting somewhere else like Kelvin Beachum.

Lastly, I don't get upset about players ages anymore. With Covid and players having to redshirt due to injury, or taking advantage of the transfer portal and NIL, players are going to be older and older moving forward I think. 23 years old as a rookie and even turning 24 during the season is going to be more and more common I think.

And if you draft somebody younger, 20,21, how often do they need to build up their bodies because they aren't ready to start yet? And by the time they have done that, how many useable years are you getting off of that investment?? Isn't it maybe better to have a player ready to go, ready to play, ready to start?? Get 4 years out of them instead of 2 or 2.5?

And how many players that we draft do we sign to second contracts anyway?? If we are getting one contract, 4 years out of a player, what difference does it make if those players ages are 24, 25, 26, 27 or 20, 21, 22, 23?

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Post by K_C_ » Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:26 am

I've read this kid has a knee issue.

Is it chronic? Hope to fuck that isn't a lingering problem down the road.
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Post by anpsteel » Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:48 am

Scunge wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:43 am
I had very mixed opinions on this year's tackle class.

I see a lot of prospects that are limited in a way, that are only able to play one position. Latham and Fuaga are RT only I think. Fashanu, the Penn St kid, I view as more of a finesse LT, I don't see him being as good of a run blocker. His arm length is shorter than Fautanu and Olu's hands are smaller than even Kenny Pickett. I think he is going to struggle more as a pro.

Mims?? 8 career starts? And he had trouble even finishing those 8 games without leaving the field to injury?? I am old enough to remember the likes of Tom Ricketts and Jaimain Stephens and I was standing up and cheering that the Bungals did us the favor of not drafting this tease. Sometimes these massive human beings can't stay healthy enough to stay on the field, many look at him and think a young Flozell Adams, I look at him and think another Zach Banner.

Troy Fautanu and Talies Fuaga were the top two tackles that I wanted to draft, that I thought we would be in position to draft and Barton was the consolation prize if both of them were taken. Fuaga would have made things nice and tidy, insert him as the RT, move Jones to LT and you are set for the next 4-5 years. What I like about Fautanu is the versatility. From what I have read he DID play RT in high school, it isn't foreign to him and at Washington he played LT with a couple of games at LG. What is sort of weird is that you can almost make the case that he was in essence the RT of that offense because his QB threw left-handed. When Troy was in pass protection, his QB could more clearly see the pressure and act accordingly.

If Troy were to come in and start at RT, the position he played in high school, he would still have the advantage of his now right-handed QBs being able to more clearly see the pressure. Whether in high school or college he really wasn't your typical BLINDSIDE LT protector was he???

That is not a knock on Troy, just an observation and how the circumstances worked out. I think he starts at RT, Jones moves to LT and it will take some time for them to adjust and get comfortable but that is a great luxury to have bookend tackles.

Tackles can be 6'3"-6'4" if their arms are long enough. Rashawn Slater had 33" long arms and was taken 13th overall by the Chargers and he made the ProBowl as a rookie. We drafted a kid out of SMU, Kelvin Beachum, over 12 years ago and all he has done is start 150 games as a Pro and is still playing, he is with Arizona. He is 6'3, 305 with 33 inch arms.

Troy Fautanu, is 6'3 3/4" 317 pounds, with 34 1/2" arms, runs a flat 5.0 40. I saw highlights where he has quickness and recovery to get back in position even when he was initially beaten. You don't see that very often with tackles, usually if they are beaten, they stay beaten and can only help pick up the QB after the sack. This may be a bad analogy, but think of how other QBs can look at a Pat Mahommes or Aaron Rodgers make off platform throws and be dumbfounded how they do it. I can't help but feel some tackles look at some of what Fautanu does in protection and marvel too, because his athleticism and nimbleness can make up for the times when his technique isn't stellar. Going back to the QB analogy, it is like the lesser QBs shaking their heads knowing that they would have to plant their feet, power their whole body into the throw but a Mahommes or Rodgers can just torque their upper body and fling the ball 50 yards and make that big play.

Here is another bad analogy, but hey, here you go, if we compare our current tackles, Fautanu, Jones and Moore Jr to say ILBs over the years, who is who?

Jones and Fautanu are like Ryan Shazier and Patrick Queen and Dan Moore would be like a Vince Williams or a Larry Foote.

I don't understand the hate for Dan Moore. He has played 3 seasons at LT against a murders row of pass rushers each and every year, practically each and every game. Myles Garrett twice a year, Trey Hendrickson twice a year, last season we saw Max Crosby, the Texans had Jonathan Greenard and Will Anderson, The Jags had Travon Walker and Josh Allen, it goes on and on, each and every game.

And most teams, the vast majority of teams will move their edge rushers around trying to get the most favorable matchup that they can and often times that meant targeting Dan Moore. I will tell you though that Kenny Pickett did him no favors by doing his patented spin move into the pressure. How many of Dan Moore's sacks over the past two years were a result of Pickett's happy feet and not simply stepping up into the pocket?? When Moore is pushing a pass rusher out past the arc, your QB is supposed to move forward, step up and make the throw, not spin to his left into the arc of that pass rusher. It drove me crazy watching Kenny devolve and get worse and worse this way. And I am going to beat Dan Moore up about that??? Nah. Dan Moore is a serviceable tackle who, yes, will end up leaving but will have a long career starting somewhere else like Kelvin Beachum.

Lastly, I don't get upset about players ages anymore. With Covid and players having to redshirt due to injury, or taking advantage of the transfer portal and NIL, players are going to be older and older moving forward I think. 23 years old as a rookie and even turning 24 during the season is going to be more and more common I think.

And if you draft somebody younger, 20,21, how often do they need to build up their bodies because they aren't ready to start yet? And by the time they have done that, how many useable years are you getting off of that investment?? Isn't it maybe better to have a player ready to go, ready to play, ready to start?? Get 4 years out of them instead of 2 or 2.5?

And how many players that we draft do we sign to second contracts anyway?? If we are getting one contract, 4 years out of a player, what difference does it make if those players ages are 24, 25, 26, 27 or 20, 21, 22, 23?
All really good points


And it’s good to read he has a history at RT

I really struggle with the redundancy of this pick, when they have so many real holes

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:00 am

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This draft is LOADED at CB. I wouldn't stress not getting one in the first. Or second. Or even third. There will be really nice options available at 4.119 on Saturday.
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Post by jebrick » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:21 am

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Steelers always claim they take the highest guy on their board. If it's true, it's because they weight certain guys higher based on need already.

Tomlin is saying that this guy is a tackle in their eyes. No move inside planned. Even if it became apparent one was necessary, I trust this coaching staff to deny that reality for several seasons until the guy finds a new home elsewhere. Hopefully he's a bookend tackle.

I have to admit...taking the top rated CB in the draft was tempting.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:26 am

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Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:03 am
As stated in the chat thread…

Would’ve liked Mitchell @20

Struggling a bit with this one. Not really prototypical NFL tackle size.

Old rookie almost 24 years old. Is he gonna play tackle or a center prospect?
The guy is a diehard football player who LOVES the game and loves hitting the crap out of people. He grew up a huge Steelers and Troy Polamalu fan. He is probably the best OLman they have on the roster for the offense they want to run.

He is going to be a HUGE fan favorite once people get a look at him in action.

He has the arm length and feet of an NFL OT—I think he has more potential to play LT than last year’s pick. But anywhere he plays it will be an upgrade.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:29 am

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Who's gonna have to mouth off before he sees the field. Bad pick. The top 3 CB's were there for the taking and they choose a Guard who I'm sure they will put at the wrong position like Kevin Dotson.

This dude is almost 24y/o. People were bashing Penix for being 24 and yet it's ok for this kid to be 24. He's not the right size for Tackle. Is he a Day 1 starter? He better be. What position is he gonna play. Hopefully not trying square peg round hole at Center.

Quinyon Mitchell was there. We could have had bookend lockdown CB's.
In a vacuum, I love all those CBs but:
All three are zone guys; they are a man to man team these days
Dejean can be used like Hamilton or Polamalu but I doubt they are creative enough to use him that way
They don’t have nearly the probably at outside CB that they do at OT—they have two established starters, plus two developmental guys they like. They desperately need a slot guy but Arnold-Mitchell-Dejean aren’t really that guy.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:31 am

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Like the player, just now sure how he fits.

I'm not in the group chat either :?
Why not? I think it gets handed up and you have to try a couple of times to get in. If all else fails, try making a new discord sign in
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:33 am

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Steelers always claim they take the highest guy on their board. If it's true, it's because they weight certain guys higher based on need already.

Tomlin is saying that this guy is a tackle in their eyes. No move inside planned. Even if it became apparent one was necessary, I trust this coaching staff to deny that reality for several seasons until the guy finds a new home elsewhere. Hopefully he's a bookend tackle.

I have to admit...taking the top rated CB in the draft was tempting.
All rgeee of those too CBs—I love them by he way—are heavy zone guys. The Steelers left that behind and are heavy man to man these days on the outside. I don’t think any of them was a great fit.
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Post by PennyBacker » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:35 am

Scunge wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:43 am
From what I have read he DID play RT in high school, it isn't foreign to him and at Washington he played LT with a couple of games at LG. What is sort of weird is that you can almost make the case that he was in essence the RT of that offense because his QB threw left-handed. When Troy was in pass protection, his QB could more clearly see the pressure and act accordingly.
You bring up an interesting point here.

QBs are always taught to have their eyes downfield seeking receivers. But the best QBs also have to have peripheral vision to see where the rush is coming from and be able to manipulate the pocket to set themselves up for a throw.

Fautanu has such exceptional movement skills, that as a QB you could trust that he will be able to get enough of his man through his mirror capabilities that there should always be a passing window or an escape route somewhere in his neighborhood. A QB with good peripheral vision could take advantage of that.

OL guru Larry Zierlein thinks he will play RT for the Steelers. Maybe you are onto something @Scunge.
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And if you draft somebody younger, 20,21, how often do they need to build up their bodies because they aren't ready to start yet? And by the time they have done that, how many useable years are you getting off of that investment?? Isn't it maybe better to have a player ready to go, ready to play, ready to start?? Get 4 years out of them instead of 2 or 2.5?

And how many players that we draft do we sign to second contracts anyway?? If we are getting one contract, 4 years out of a player, what difference does it make if those players ages are 24, 25, 26, 27 or 20, 21, 22, 23?
I am coming around on older prospects becoming less of a concern myself. The concept of finding a cornerstone that lasts for 2 or even 3 contracts is something more from the 90s & 2000s, in my opinion.

Today the window for success opens and closes so quickly in the NFL that finding players who can begin achieving their potential in year 1 or early year 2 is more important than finding a guy who can grow into his body for 2-3 years and then be a 'set it and forget it' guy for the next 7. Player movement is presently too prevalent to try to make guaranteed long term investments. Again, maybe just my opinion.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:38 am

Stillchest wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:08 am
Steelafan77 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:55 am
CoolShades wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:52 am


Is that how it works in the NFL? Seniority?

I doubt it.

Although on the Steelers, who knows? I think it mostly depends on who Jibbs likes more. Broderick Jones is probably feeling a bit slighted right now. He’s now the team’s 3rd string LT behind Moore and Fautanu.
I wouldn’t go that far…. Moore is a fuckn’ turnstile and should have never been allowed to play LT.

Perhaps he slides inside to LG? With Jones and now Fautanu I would say an embarrassment of riches?
Steelers already have a decent LG.

Steelers need their 1st pick to start day one...if not...considering the Steelers tout themselves as a legit SB contenders...this pick is a failure.

Could've had two potentially, lockdown CB's, who play press, to compete in a passing league, for the next several years.

Strange?!
Except they don’t play press. Mitchell sucks at it. Dejean almost never. Arnold, the coaching staff moved away from press and man to off and zone for him and Kool Aid.

Listen all three have their superpowers at CB but if you want to play press man, better to dig deeper into the value bin.
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Post by Stillchest » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:56 am

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:38 am
Stillchest wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:08 am
Steelafan77 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:55 am

I wouldn’t go that far…. Moore is a fuckn’ turnstile and should have never been allowed to play LT.

Perhaps he slides inside to LG? With Jones and now Fautanu I would say an embarrassment of riches?
Steelers already have a decent LG.

Steelers need their 1st pick to start day one...if not...considering the Steelers tout themselves as a legit SB contenders...this pick is a failure.

Could've had two potentially, lockdown CB's, who play press, to compete in a passing league, for the next several years.

Strange?!
Except they don’t play press. Mitchell sucks at it. Dejean almost never. Arnold, the coaching staff moved away from press and man to off and zone for him and Kool Aid.

Listen all three have their superpowers at CB but if you want to play press man, better to dig deeper into the value bin.
Who then?

Rinardo Green?

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:00 pm

Stillchest wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:56 am
:cry:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:38 am
Stillchest wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:08 am


Steelers already have a decent LG.

Steelers need their 1st pick to start day one...if not...considering the Steelers tout themselves as a legit SB contenders...this pick is a failure.

Could've had two potentially, lockdown CB's, who play press, to compete in a passing league, for the next several years.

Strange?!
Except they don’t play press. Mitchell sucks at it. Dejean almost never. Arnold, the coaching staff moved away from press and man to off and zone for him and Kool Aid.

Listen all three have their superpowers at CB but if you want to play press man, better to dig deeper into the value bin.
Who then?

Ricardo Green?
Honestly, Darius Rush and Cory Trice are better fits than most of these outside CBs. The next CB they’re going to pick will either be a pure NCB or will be an outside/inside guy. Andre Phillips? Green. Sainristil. They have Luc Barcoo and a bunch of nothing at NCB.
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Post by Pabst » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:05 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:31 am
Pabst wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:13 am
Like the player, just now sure how he fits.

I'm not in the group chat either :?
Why not? I think it gets handed up and you have to try a couple of times to get in. If all else fails, try making a new discord sign in
Oh, had nothing to do with discord. I didn't even get a chance to sit down and watch until the Bungles pick. By that point why bother

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Post by RemoAZ » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:11 pm

I think some of you are missing the point that they are going to run a 90's style run first offense. The ONLY way that works is with a dominant oline. Not a decent or good oline, a dominant one. So the ONLY thing that makes sense is to load up on elite linemen. They MUST draft the best center with their next pick especially since they have zero real centers on the roster. To me, Tomlin + a shitty oline hasn't made any sense at all in years. It's like the GM and HC weren't on the same page. Maybe Khan is finally trying to make the Tomlin philosophy work. I would love to have a dominant oline. I still don't think Tomlin has any chance at all of fielding a contender with his overly conservative offense and QB room full of other team's trash but if you're going to go that way, draft to at least try to make it work. With the picks so far and FA signing of a top guard last year, that seems to be what they are doing. Of course if they don't fill the center position, that will make this plan fall apart imo.
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Post by RemoAZ » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:13 pm

Pabst wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:05 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:31 am
Pabst wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:13 am
Like the player, just now sure how he fits.

I'm not in the group chat either :?
Why not? I think it gets handed up and you have to try a couple of times to get in. If all else fails, try making a new discord sign in
Oh, had nothing to do with discord. I didn't even get a chance to sit down and watch until the Bungles pick. By that point why bother
I guess this is age but is discord a message board or audio chat? I've never tried it but it seems a lot of stuff is going there so maybe I need to. I don't understand why there wasn't just a draft talk thread here. Can the board not handle the traffic?
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Post by Scunge » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:20 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:00 pm

Honestly, Darius Rush and Cory Trice are better fits than most of these outside CBs. The next CB they’re going to pick will either be a pure NCB or will be an outside/inside guy. Andre Phillips? Green. Sainristil. They have Luc Barcoo and a bunch of nothing at NCB.
Green at Florida St. faced a lot of these top WRs and did a very good job, they trusted him in man.

I think this draft is loaded with slot CBs that can not only do coverage but also play the run with equal aplomb. And I think there are a bunch of safeties that can be used as slot CBs too, Javon Bullard, Dadrion 'Rabbit' Taylor-Demerson, etc.

This draft will be a failure to me if we don't come out of rounds 2-3 with a slot CB/S. Enough of the bullshit, of making do with the likes of Arthur Maulet and Chandon Sullivan.

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Post by alancac98 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:24 pm

Ya know, if you don't have guys in the trenches you won't go far. I honestly don't trust Tomlin's defenses. Hell, how many 1st round picks do they have on that defense? And... they still get curb stomped in the playoffs. Yeah, it would have been nice to have that CB, but offenses put points on the board and this OL just got a lot better - perhaps equal to what it used to be a long time ago when Munchak was the OL coach. I'm actually excited to see this offense, but we still need one more pick to finish it off, a C! If you can't keep the QB upright, you have no chance to win the game! If you can't open holes in the run game to help keep the D honest, you have no chance to win the game - at least not the big one!

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Post by Jobu » Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:04 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
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RemoAZ wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:35 am
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