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Deebo
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by Deebo » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:30 pm
K_C_ wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:18 pm
steelclan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:11 pm
The garden gnome WR from Georgia.
I think McConkey will go pretty quick once the second round gets underway.
Being that their aren't many quality larger wide receivers left, if the Steelers don't shock everybody and pull off a trade for Brandon Aiyuk, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them pull off a trade to move up in the second round for a Keon Coleman type.
Not sure who at the WR position might be there at 51 that
fits what Arthur Smith likes to do.
A good player is a good player.
Yes, it'd be nice to have the player with traits similar to what we will run but we aren't going to run 2WR and 1WR 100% of the time. We'll have multiple WR sets. There's room in every offense for dynamic pass catchers. So idc if we draft Tyrek Hill or Megatron; good players will ball out no matter what the scheme.
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K_C_
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by K_C_ » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:45 pm
Deebo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:30 pm
K_C_ wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:18 pm
steelclan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:11 pm
The garden gnome WR from Georgia.
I think McConkey will go pretty quick once the second round gets underway.
Being that their aren't many quality larger wide receivers left, if the Steelers don't shock everybody and pull off a trade for Brandon Aiyuk, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them pull off a trade to move up in the second round for a Keon Coleman type.
Not sure who at the WR position might be there at 51 that
fits what Arthur Smith likes to do.
A good player is a good player.
Yes, it'd be nice to have the player with traits similar to what we will run but we aren't going to run 2WR and 1WR 100% of the time. We'll have multiple WR sets. There's room in every offense for dynamic pass catchers. So idc if we draft Tyrek Hill or Megatron; good players will ball out no matter what the scheme.
Dude you're preaching to the choir. I would draft Roman Wilson at 51 if no trade is made, but Smith's offenses routinely featured bigger WR's and as B2B pointed out, Smith doesn't use slot receivers a whole lot (there's already talk that Pat Freiermuth will probably be the slot receiver in Smith's offense. I'm not kidding) and Wilson doesn't play outside a whole lot, so I doubt the Steelers would draft Roman even though he's a very good receiver. Just doesn't seem to fit what the Steelers are trying to build.
I personally think the Steelers are drafting players that fit what Arthur Smith likes to do. The second round will tell us a lot about what will take place going forward.
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chopski
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by chopski » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:59 pm
Feel we have to go WR at 51, so one of Mason McCormick or Hunter Nourzad is going to be our next C imo
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CKSteeler
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by CKSteeler » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:40 pm
ol skool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:52 pm
How bout we, you know, devise a scheme that fits the WRs we have (and the one we’ll add) rather than further paint ourselves into a corner looking only for Artie’s preferred scheme-fit?
He won’t be available, but McConkey’s calling card is getting the fuck open. If you can’t work with that, you’re in the wrong business.
This. I'm not attacking Arthur Smith, but your passing scheme should be designed around your talent like anything else.
Also, second the sentiment above on mobile centers. Steelers have painted themselves into a corner always looking for some center who can move rather than the guy who can handle the guy across from him. I was never a big Pouncey fan and found the organization overrated him greatly.
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Jobu
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by Jobu » Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:54 pm
This. I'm not attacking Arthur Smith, but your passing scheme should be designed around your talent like anything else.
I can’t tell you how much I agree with this. Good coaches adjust to their talent, not vice versa.
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by Gonzo » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:28 pm
Scunge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:50 pm
Mick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:01 pm
What i don’t want to see is us drafting a worse player because we are concerned with how the better player ‘fits’, whether that means not taking a small WR because we want big ones, or not taking a big because that’s what we already have, or not taking a slot because we plan to run a stupid scheme.
I think there are great smaller WRs that fit Smith's offense. People that want to consider a trade for Deebo Samuels or draft Malachi Corely should watch some film of Ainias Smith. That guy has awesome film, both as a receiver, punt returner and kick returner. I would take him in round 4 easily. Maybe Ainias and Jermain Burton have character concerns but I think they have as much talent as anybody left on the board and we can probably get them in round 3 or 4. Why overdraft a so-so WR in round 2 when there are better values at DT, at slot CB, at ILB?
i like smith a lot
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by Gonzo » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:29 pm
Scunge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:50 pm
Mick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:01 pm
What i don’t want to see is us drafting a worse player because we are concerned with how the better player ‘fits’, whether that means not taking a small WR because we want big ones, or not taking a big because that’s what we already have, or not taking a slot because we plan to run a stupid scheme.
I think there are great smaller WRs that fit Smith's offense. People that want to consider a trade for Deebo Samuels or draft Malachi Corely should watch some film of Ainias Smith. That guy has awesome film, both as a receiver, punt returner and kick returner. I would take him in round 4 easily. Maybe Ainias and Jermain Burton have character concerns but I think they have as much talent as anybody left on the board and we can probably get them in round 3 or 4. Why overdraft a so-so WR in round 2 when there are better values at DT, at slot CB, at ILB?
i like smith a lot and if they can get him for a 4th …. excellent. C and CB 2/3 move up in round 2 for dejean or a C
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by .Kodiak » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:03 am
K_C_ wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:14 am
Gotta be, for me, either Zach Frazier or
Dear god no....
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by K_C_ » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:12 am
.Kodiak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:03 am
K_C_ wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:14 am
Gotta be, for me, either Zach Frazier or
Dear god no....
You don't think Frazier will be a doorslammer?
You are in good company with STD.
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.Kodiak
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by .Kodiak » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:40 am
K_C_ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:12 am
You don't think Frazier will be a doorslammer?
You are in good company with STD.
I like the pick. And props for making the call.