Heyward Extended

[Pabst]

Smitty in his prime was unblockable and held the line for his LBers to make plays.
Can you say the same about Cam?

Yes.



I don't think they should have extended him, but that doesn't take away from what he did in the past.
And this doesn't take anything away from Aaron Smith, either. He was great. He was also surrounded by HOF level talent at every level of the Defense.

[punum123]

B2B called it. SMH

If Heyward blows or is injured, he literally will see no new money from this deal.

The guy should have been asked to take a paycut after last season. Instead, his entire salary for the year was guaranteed and he had two years tacked onto it. The last version of Cameron Heyward we saw on the field was not worth $16 million a year.

It sounds great on paper to say they can cut him with no dead money. But how bad does Heyward have to be for this organization to actually move on? If he's just good enough, the guy gets to keep his salary making him one of the highest paid players on the team.

This 1,000%

[Sir Lambert]

Cam was a great player in his heyday. I just think they shouldn't make a long-term commitment to a 35 year old player who used to be great and had a bad season last year.

[955876]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

[K_C_]

Cam was a great player in his heyday. I just think they shouldn't make a long-term commitment to a 35 year old player who used to be great and had a bad season last year.

They didn't make a long term commitment to Heyward.

He's getting paid $16 million for this upcoming season. That is all the guaranteed money Harris has coming to him.

The next 2 years of this faux extension have zero guaranteed money attached to them.

[K_C_]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

I'm not saying you're wrong, because Heyward is pretty old now but let's not act like Heyward's play has fallen off beyond last year's injury riddled season.

The fucking guy had 10 and a half sacks in 2022 along with 74 tackles and had 10 sacks, an INT and 89 tackles in 2021. Those numbers are ridiculous for a fucking 3-4 defensive end.

If Heyward can stay healthy (at his age that's a big if) then don't be surprised if he makes everybody wanting him gone look like fucking idiots and I'm one of those that was very clear I did not want him extended.

[Steel Bingo]

And don't forget, during the 2020 and 2021 playoff years, for some reason the roster went through extended periods of time where there were no 300lb men on the defensive line those seasons.

Heyward was conceivably all there was on the DL at that point. 2nd Team All-Pro in 2020 and 1st Team All-Pro in 2021 is impressive under that construction.

Great to have Cam on board for this season. He deserves the benefit of the doubt that 2023 was not his finest season because of the groin injury.

[Jobu]

Cam isn’t getting cut…he will collect every penny of this contract.

[955876]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

I'm not saying you're wrong, because Heyward is pretty old now but let's not act like Heyward's play has fallen off beyond last year's injury riddled season.

The fucking guy had 10 and a half sacks in 2022 along with 74 tackles and had 10 sacks, an INT and 89 tackles in 2021. Those numbers are ridiculous for a fucking 3-4 defensive end.

If Heyward can stay healthy (at his age that's a big if) then don't be surprised if he makes everybody wanting him gone look like fucking idiots and I'm one of those that was very clear I did not want him extended.

It’s 2024. Then 2025.

A body breaks down quickly at his age.

Had he played out his deal and provided he has a good season wanted to come back next year they could have given him another year.

What I didn’t like was Cam (at his age) acting like he was owed some sort of extension and whining that he wasn’t getting one.

Highly skeptical he puts up those 2022 numbers. If he does great.

[gojira5150]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

Too true.

Hey Bro, are you going to the Faiders game this year. I am, we can meet up if you are going.

[K_C_]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

I'm not saying you're wrong, because Heyward is pretty old now but let's not act like Heyward's play has fallen off beyond last year's injury riddled season.

The fucking guy had 10 and a half sacks in 2022 along with 74 tackles and had 10 sacks, an INT and 89 tackles in 2021. Those numbers are ridiculous for a fucking 3-4 defensive end.

If Heyward can stay healthy (at his age that's a big if) then don't be surprised if he makes everybody wanting him gone look like fucking idiots and I'm one of those that was very clear I did not want him extended.

It’s 2024. Then 2025.

A body breaks down quickly at his age.

Had he played out his deal and provided he has a good season wanted to come back next year they could have given him another year.

What I didn’t like was Cam (at his age) acting like he was owed some sort of extension and whining that he wasn’t getting one.

Highly skeptical he puts up those 2022 numbers. If he does great.

I understand he's older and bodies most certainly do break down. There is a good chance he gets hurt again, but I don't blame the Steelers one bit for paying him $16 million for this year even on the chance he has a bounce back season.

Why? Because they will owe him zero guaranteed money after this year and if Heyward does bounce back (which sure as fuck isn't out of the question if he remains healthy) then Heyward will earn a nice sum of money next season too.

This really is a win/win for the Steelers. If Heyward's body breaks down, they owe him nothing except this year's salary.

If Heyward gets back to his All-Pro form, $16 million is an unbelievable bargain and Heyward will remain a bargain the following year when he returns.

Again, this is good news all around and yes, I didn't like Heyward's behavior either but if you were a superstar for several years and then got hurt and everybody wanted you kicked out the door after one down season, you might be a little pissed off too.

[zeke5123]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

I'm not saying you're wrong, because Heyward is pretty old now but let's not act like Heyward's play has fallen off beyond last year's injury riddled season.

The fucking guy had 10 and a half sacks in 2022 along with 74 tackles and had 10 sacks, an INT and 89 tackles in 2021. Those numbers are ridiculous for a fucking 3-4 defensive end.

If Heyward can stay healthy (at his age that's a big if) then don't be surprised if he makes everybody wanting him gone look like fucking idiots and I'm one of those that was very clear I did not want him extended.

He is a DT in a nickel. We dont really play 3-4. Just like no one really plays 4-3. It is nickel or dime the vast majority of time.

[955876]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

Too true.

Hey Bro, are you going to the Faiders game this year. I am, we can meet up if you are going.

Not likely. Going to Maui here in a few weeks and will just be getting back when that game occurs.

Year-end at work is really busy for me and need to get caught up as I feel like I lost 4-5 months this year dealing with some personal shit.

Also planning on going back to Scotland next year to play Carnousie and a few others. So prolly no Vegas for the game.

Otherwise, would have totally been down to meet up. Would have bought you a drink or 3…

Have your tix already?

[K_C_]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

I'm not saying you're wrong, because Heyward is pretty old now but let's not act like Heyward's play has fallen off beyond last year's injury riddled season.

The fucking guy had 10 and a half sacks in 2022 along with 74 tackles and had 10 sacks, an INT and 89 tackles in 2021. Those numbers are ridiculous for a fucking 3-4 defensive end.

If Heyward can stay healthy (at his age that's a big if) then don't be surprised if he makes everybody wanting him gone look like fucking idiots and I'm one of those that was very clear I did not want him extended.

He is a DT in a nickel. We dont really play 3-4. Just like no one really plays 4-3. It is nickel or dime the vast majority of time.

Okay, if we're getting technical then it's even more impressive a defensive tackle has 10+ sacks in 2021 and 10 sacks in 2022 with an INT.

When's the last time the Steelers had a defensive lineman with 3 seasons of 10 or more sacks? (Heyward also had 12 sacks in 2017.)

[W&M_Steeler]

When's the last time the Steelers had a defensive lineman with 3 seasons of 10 or more sacks? (Heyward also had 12 sacks in 2017.)

That's nice- how many sacks did Cam have in the playoffs in 2017? How many tackles? (0 and 1, respectively?). People used to hate Bettis for being a playoff choker, but Cam makes Bettis look like a post-season stud.

No one is arguing that Cam sucks. My position is that he's already proven incapable of helping the team to get to the next level, so why spend tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime? I'd rather move on and try to build anew. But with the Tomlin extension and the Cam extension, it's signaling same old, same old. Cam having a good regular season in 2024 will help in the quest for securing NHALS, though.

[K_C_]

When's the last time the Steelers had a defensive lineman with 3 seasons of 10 or more sacks? (Heyward also had 12 sacks in 2017.)

That's nice- how many sacks did Cam have in the playoffs in 2017? How many tackles? (0 and 1, respectively?). People used to hate Bettis for being a playoff choker, but Cam makes Bettis look like a post-season stud.

No one is arguing that Cam sucks. My position is that he's already proven incapable of helping the team to get to the next level, so why spend tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime? I'd rather move on and try to build anew. But with the Tomlin extension and the Cam extension, it's signaling same old, same old. Cam having a good regular season in 2024 will help in the quest for securing NHALS, though.

Heyward's been awful in the playoffs.

We also very likely never make the playoffs without Heyward.

As for your "why are we spending tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime", I have 2 responses. First you rightfully used the word "likely." You know as well as I do that if Heyward can avoid injuries, he's going to be a force. Yep, even at his current age. Dude sucked last year. I won't deny that but after returning from injury, lots of guys suck returning from injuries, especially when they're trying to play while still injured.

Also, this is literally a ONE YEAR PROVE IT DEAL Heyward is on. What else do you want Rooney to do with that 16 million? Bank it? He might as well spend it on Cam and if he sucks, the guy will retire. If he has a bounce back year and dominates, then we'll all be hoping like a motherfucker he returns next season.

This is absolutely the right move by the Steelers.

Lastly, you making the comment that if Cam has a good season that secures the NHALS. You DO know the Steelers aren't going to tank this year, right? Under no circumstances are they going look to lose games. While we all hate the NHALS, I'd much rather have that than watch a team outright trying to lose. That isn't going to happen. If they do go 4-13, they're going to do it the old fashioned way. By sucking even though everybody is trying 100% to win.

[W&M_Steeler]

When's the last time the Steelers had a defensive lineman with 3 seasons of 10 or more sacks? (Heyward also had 12 sacks in 2017.)

That's nice- how many sacks did Cam have in the playoffs in 2017? How many tackles? (0 and 1, respectively?). People used to hate Bettis for being a playoff choker, but Cam makes Bettis look like a post-season stud.

No one is arguing that Cam sucks. My position is that he's already proven incapable of helping the team to get to the next level, so why spend tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime? I'd rather move on and try to build anew. But with the Tomlin extension and the Cam extension, it's signaling same old, same old. Cam having a good regular season in 2024 will help in the quest for securing NHALS, though.

Heyward's been awful in the playoffs.

We also very likely never make the playoffs without Heyward.

As for your "why are we spending tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime", I have 2 responses. First you rightfully used the word "likely." You know as well as I do that if Heyward can avoid injuries, he's going to be a force. Yep, even at his current age. Dude sucked last year. I won't deny that but after returning from injury, lots of guys suck returning from injuries, especially when they're trying to play while still injured.

Also, this is literally a ONE YEAR PROVE IT DEAL Heyward is on. What else do you want Rooney to do with that 16 million? Bank it? He might as well spend it on Cam and if he sucks, the guy will retire. If he has a bounce back year and dominates, then we'll all be hoping like a motherfucker he returns next season.

This is absolutely the right move by the Steelers.

Lastly, you making the comment that if Cam has a good season that secures the NHALS. You DO know the Steelers aren't going to tank this year, right? Under no circumstances are they going look to lose games. While we all hate the NHALS, I'd much rather have that than watch a team outright trying to lose. That isn't going to happen. If they do go 4-13, they're going to do it the old fashioned way. By sucking even though everybody is trying 100% to win.

I understand your points and I don't think you're wrong. I just would have rather they spent the $16 million this year on offense (maybe at WR or TE) and tried to make due with lesser and younger players on the DL. The Steelers spend too much on defense, particularly one that routinely shits the bed in the playoffs. I'd rather see the team go down punching instead of the ultraconservative rely on defense to win ugly in the regular season and get embarrassed in the playoffs that has become the norm since 2019. I don't want them to intentionally tank- I just want them to try something different. Same old, same old doesn't result in much more than NHALS.

As for Cam, I think the Bettis comparison is a good in the sense that I'm as sick of Cam and his playoff no-shows as some of you guys were for Bettis. Nothing personal against Cam, really- I don't hate the guy- but he represents a frustrating era of Steelers football that I'm ready to see end. But Bus got his ring eventually, so maybe in the next few years the Steelers will get another phenom QB who turns the team back into a winner and can drag Cam to the Super Bowl.

[gojira5150]

He’s going to be on his back, legs up like a dying cockroach by game 4.

Anyone wanna take the over on that?

Then next year when he’s back we will hear how he was injured last year. Again.

Time to move on from the “Heyward Twins”.

Too true.

Hey Bro, are you going to the Faiders game this year. I am, we can meet up if you are going.

Not likely. Going to Maui here in a few weeks and will just be getting back when that game occurs.

Year-end at work is really busy for me and need to get caught up as I feel like I lost 4-5 months this year dealing with some personal shit.

Also planning on going back to Scotland next year to play Carnousie and a few others. So prolly no Vegas for the game.

Otherwise, would have totally been down to meet up. Would have bought you a drink or 3…

Have your tix already?

Thx Bro for the Beers Yeah, wifey bought them 2 weeks ago as an Anniversary present (they were $450 each), 40-yard line 2nd section (really good seats). We went to Maui in July, had a great time. Took the Dole Plantation Tour (16 stops. 8-hour tour). Had a blast. If you plan on buying souvenirs, go to the open swap meet at the Aloha Bowl. Much better prices. We went to Maui for only 5 days. Next time will be for a week.

[K_C_]

That's nice- how many sacks did Cam have in the playoffs in 2017? How many tackles? (0 and 1, respectively?). People used to hate Bettis for being a playoff choker, but Cam makes Bettis look like a post-season stud.

No one is arguing that Cam sucks. My position is that he's already proven incapable of helping the team to get to the next level, so why spend tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime? I'd rather move on and try to build anew. But with the Tomlin extension and the Cam extension, it's signaling same old, same old. Cam having a good regular season in 2024 will help in the quest for securing NHALS, though.

Heyward's been awful in the playoffs.

We also very likely never make the playoffs without Heyward.

As for your "why are we spending tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime", I have 2 responses. First you rightfully used the word "likely." You know as well as I do that if Heyward can avoid injuries, he's going to be a force. Yep, even at his current age. Dude sucked last year. I won't deny that but after returning from injury, lots of guys suck returning from injuries, especially when they're trying to play while still injured.

Also, this is literally a ONE YEAR PROVE IT DEAL Heyward is on. What else do you want Rooney to do with that 16 million? Bank it? He might as well spend it on Cam and if he sucks, the guy will retire. If he has a bounce back year and dominates, then we'll all be hoping like a motherfucker he returns next season.

This is absolutely the right move by the Steelers.

Lastly, you making the comment that if Cam has a good season that secures the NHALS. You DO know the Steelers aren't going to tank this year, right? Under no circumstances are they going look to lose games. While we all hate the NHALS, I'd much rather have that than watch a team outright trying to lose. That isn't going to happen. If they do go 4-13, they're going to do it the old fashioned way. By sucking even though everybody is trying 100% to win.

I understand your points and I don't think you're wrong. I just would have rather they spend the $16 million this year on offense (maybe at WR or TE) and try to make due with lesser and younger players on the DL. The Steelers spend too much on defense, particularly one that routinely shits the bed in the playoffs. I'd rather see the team go down punching instead of the ultraconservative rely on defense to win ugly in the regular season and get embarrassed in the playoffs that has become the norm since 2019. I don't want them to intentionally tank- I just want them to try something different. Same old, same old doesn't result in much more than NHALS.

As for Cam, I think the Bettis comparison is a good in the sense that I'm as sick of Cam and his playoff no-shows as some of you guys were for Bettis. Nothing personal against Cam, really- I don't hate the guy- but he represents a frustrating era of Steelers football that I'm ready to see end. But Bus got his ring eventually, so maybe in the next few years the Steelers will get another phenom QB who turns the team back into a winner and can drag Cam to the Super Bowl.

I'm trying to think of a free agent offensive player the Steelers could have had this past offseason who they could have used that money on. I wouldn't want Saquon Barkley. Isn't worth the cash and like Freiermuth, get's injured walking to his mailbox. No fucking way would I want Odell Beckham Jr on this team, even for free. Also...he's out for likely the first 4 games for Miami. Dude is always injured. I wouldn't have trusted Keenan Allen enough to stay healthy and the Bears had to trade for him. If he does stay healthy though, the Bears offense could be lethal. Obviously Derrick Henry wasn't coming to Pittsburgh. The Browns had to trade for Jerry Jeudy and I have no idea how they got him so cheaply. That one stings (how in the fuck did they get Jeudy for 5th and 6th round picks???) No way I give Gabe Davis a 3 year $39 million dollar deal. I like Calvin Ridley but would you give him $50 million guaranteed like the Titans did? Um...I don' think I would. I'm not a Hollywood Brown fan. DJ Chark and Michael Gallup were signed very cheap. We might have fucked up there. Probably should have grabbed one of them. Josh Jacobs got a boatload of money and no way he was coming to Pittsburgh. Is Darnell Mooney worth a 3 year $39 million dollar deal with $26 million guaranteed? I don't think so. Rondale Moore was acquired by the Falcons for Desmond Ridder, who was just released. Maybe we could have traded Kenny for Moore? That might have been a better move for both sides. The Cardinals got Zay Jones very cheap but is he better than Van Jefferson at this point? Probably not. Noah Fant wouldn't really fit this offense with Freiermuth around so.....unless I'm missing someone, the Cam signing doesn't look so bad.

Overall, the pickings were slim but I'd love to know how the Browns landed Jeudy so fucking cheaply. That one hurts.

[Orangesteel]

What we probably should have done is drafted Brian Thomas Jr. in the first round (who looks like a stud, BTW, and is the named #2 in Jacksonville) and done damage with the Oline picks in the later rounds.

But it is what it is. We are razor thin at WR. It’s promising to hear Roman Wilson might play Sunday but he’s really gotta hit the ground running to not be more of what we already have.

[955876]

Too true.

Hey Bro, are you going to the Faiders game this year. I am, we can meet up if you are going.

Not likely. Going to Maui here in a few weeks and will just be getting back when that game occurs.

Year-end at work is really busy for me and need to get caught up as I feel like I lost 4-5 months this year dealing with some personal shit.

Also planning on going back to Scotland next year to play Carnousie and a few others. So prolly no Vegas for the game.

Otherwise, would have totally been down to meet up. Would have bought you a drink or 3…

Have your tix already?

Thx Bro for the Beers Yeah, wifey bought them 2 weeks ago as an Anniversary present (they were $450 each), 40-yard line 2nd section (really good seats). We went to Maui in July, had a great time. Took the Dole Plantation Tour (16 stops. 8-hour tour). Had a blast. If you plan on buying souvenirs, go to the open swap meet at the Aloha Bowl. Much better prices. We went to Maui for only 5 days. Next time will be for a week.

Have fun at the game. Raiders new stadium is pretty nice.

We are staying in Kapalua. Playing both golf courses there. The Plantation and the Bay course. Aside from that just a whole lot of chillin.

[gojira5150]

Not likely. Going to Maui here in a few weeks and will just be getting back when that game occurs.

Year-end at work is really busy for me and need to get caught up as I feel like I lost 4-5 months this year dealing with some personal shit.

Also planning on going back to Scotland next year to play Carnousie and a few others. So prolly no Vegas for the game.

Otherwise, would have totally been down to meet up. Would have bought you a drink or 3…

Have your tix already?

Thx Bro for the Beers Yeah, wifey bought them 2 weeks ago as an Anniversary present (they were $450 each), 40-yard line 2nd section (really good seats). We went to Maui in July, had a great time. Took the Dole Plantation Tour (16 stops. 8-hour tour). Had a blast. If you plan on buying souvenirs, go to the open swap meet at the Aloha Bowl. Much better prices. We went to Maui for only 5 days. Next time will be for a week.

Have fun at the game. Raiders new stadium is pretty nice.

We are staying in Kapalua. Playing both golf courses there. The Plantation and the Bay course. Aside from that just a whole lot of chillin.

Will do. I will be representing. Have fun in Hawaii

[955876]

Thanks man…

[W&M_Steeler]

Heyward's been awful in the playoffs.

We also very likely never make the playoffs without Heyward.

As for your "why are we spending tens of millions on a guy who's likely past his prime", I have 2 responses. First you rightfully used the word "likely." You know as well as I do that if Heyward can avoid injuries, he's going to be a force. Yep, even at his current age. Dude sucked last year. I won't deny that but after returning from injury, lots of guys suck returning from injuries, especially when they're trying to play while still injured.

Also, this is literally a ONE YEAR PROVE IT DEAL Heyward is on. What else do you want Rooney to do with that 16 million? Bank it? He might as well spend it on Cam and if he sucks, the guy will retire. If he has a bounce back year and dominates, then we'll all be hoping like a motherfucker he returns next season.

This is absolutely the right move by the Steelers.

Lastly, you making the comment that if Cam has a good season that secures the NHALS. You DO know the Steelers aren't going to tank this year, right? Under no circumstances are they going look to lose games. While we all hate the NHALS, I'd much rather have that than watch a team outright trying to lose. That isn't going to happen. If they do go 4-13, they're going to do it the old fashioned way. By sucking even though everybody is trying 100% to win.

I understand your points and I don't think you're wrong. I just would have rather they spend the $16 million this year on offense (maybe at WR or TE) and try to make due with lesser and younger players on the DL. The Steelers spend too much on defense, particularly one that routinely shits the bed in the playoffs. I'd rather see the team go down punching instead of the ultraconservative rely on defense to win ugly in the regular season and get embarrassed in the playoffs that has become the norm since 2019. I don't want them to intentionally tank- I just want them to try something different. Same old, same old doesn't result in much more than NHALS.

As for Cam, I think the Bettis comparison is a good in the sense that I'm as sick of Cam and his playoff no-shows as some of you guys were for Bettis. Nothing personal against Cam, really- I don't hate the guy- but he represents a frustrating era of Steelers football that I'm ready to see end. But Bus got his ring eventually, so maybe in the next few years the Steelers will get another phenom QB who turns the team back into a winner and can drag Cam to the Super Bowl.

I'm trying to think of a free agent offensive player the Steelers could have had this past offseason who they could have used that money on. I wouldn't want Saquon Barkley. Isn't worth the cash and like Freiermuth, get's injured walking to his mailbox. No fucking way would I want Odell Beckham Jr on this team, even for free. Also...he's out for likely the first 4 games for Miami. Dude is always injured. I wouldn't have trusted Keenan Allen enough to stay healthy and the Bears had to trade for him. If he does stay healthy though, the Bears offense could be lethal. Obviously Derrick Henry wasn't coming to Pittsburgh. The Browns had to trade for Jerry Jeudy and I have no idea how they got him so cheaply. That one stings (how in the fuck did they get Jeudy for 5th and 6th round picks???) No way I give Gabe Davis a 3 year $39 million dollar deal. I like Calvin Ridley but would you give him $50 million guaranteed like the Titans did? Um...I don' think I would. I'm not a Hollywood Brown fan. DJ Chark and Michael Gallup were signed very cheap. We might have fucked up there. Probably should have grabbed one of them. Josh Jacobs got a boatload of money and no way he was coming to Pittsburgh. Is Darnell Mooney worth a 3 year $39 million dollar deal with $26 million guaranteed? I don't think so. Rondale Moore was acquired by the Falcons for Desmond Ridder, who was just released. Maybe we could have traded Kenny for Moore? That might have been a better move for both sides. The Cardinals got Zay Jones very cheap but is he better than Van Jefferson at this point? Probably not. Noah Fant wouldn't really fit this offense with Freiermuth around so.....unless I'm missing someone, the Cam signing doesn't look so bad.

Overall, the pickings were slim but I'd love to know how the Browns landed Jeudy so fucking cheaply. That one hurts.

There's a few interesting names in that list. Ridley,though expensive, is particulary intriguing. If you think (as I do) that Cam at least gets next year, then it's not too crazy to think that money would have been better spent on an impact WR. Ridley and Pickens would be a good tandem.

Oh well. I agree that there are solid arguments in favor of the Cam extension. I would have just preferred an offensive driven approach. But the Steelers obviously disagree, so it's time for our overpriced defense to actually do something in the postseason.

[K_C_]

There's a few interesting names in that list. Ridley,though expensive, is particulary intriguing. If you think (as I do) that Cam at least gets next year, then it's not too crazy to think that money would have been better spent on an impact WR. Ridley and Pickens would be a good tandem.

Oh well. I agree that there are solid arguments in favor of the Cam extension. I would have just preferred an offensive driven approach. But the Steelers obviously disagree, so it's time for our overpriced defense to actually do something in the postseason.

If Cam gets next season it’ll mean he balled out. Tomlin might be an idiot but Khan isn’t. Heyward will be released if he won’t retire.

I think really the defense is going to play well but we don’t play many bad teams this year and we face a bunch of good QB’s who will put up points even against a good Steelers defense.

The defense will help us hang around in some games but if this offense isn’t scoring at a nice rate, the roof is gonna cave in for cool shades.

I actually think we’ll be fine at the skill positions on offense. Not great but good enough.

The o-line will determine how this season goes.