Pickens Questionable

[955876]

I just posted in the other thread....I think I'd rather beat Philli than KC this year

Ummm you are aware that winning conference games is much more important than non-conference games right?

Losing to Philly hurts our playoff seeding less than losing to KC does.

I’d much rather lose to Philly if it means wins KC and/or Baltimore.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I just posted in the other thread....I think I'd rather beat Philli than KC this year

Ummm you are aware that winning conference games is much more important than non-conference games right?

Losing to Philly hurts our playoff seeding less than losing to KC does.

I’d much rather lose to Philly if it means wins KC and/or Baltimore.

Yes I get it...this is just about pure enjoyment of beating the cross-state team. It is like the World Cup...once every 4 years. It might be a Penn State thing, that brings out the hatred of all teams Philadelphia! Plus they have a good team and organization put together...a great measuring stick game.

There is a great chance, if we beat the Eagles, we run the table where it matters, and have a throw away game to rest the starters for Cincinnati and then on to the playoffs; great tune-up and then mini bye!

....knock wood and slaughter a chicken during the full moon and all that, to avoid a jinx!

And don't forget the Hard knocks angle! It will be glorious to watch the highlights with a sweep all the way to Cincinnati!

[W&M_Steeler]

Seems like the reports on Pickens' hammy is limited to dulac doing the math with "grade 2 strain." My medical guess is that he sits this week, back for baltimore

Maybe, but Houston sat Nico Collins for over a month with a grade 2 hammy. Let's hope it's not that.

[Pabst]

After their tilt in Detroit, Buffalo's schedule is about as easy as it gets in the NFL.

If Buffalo wins on Sunday, the Steelers' only hope of jumping either Buffalo or KC is running the table.

[Pabst]

Maybe, but Houston sat Nico Collins for over a month with a grade 2 hammy. Let's hope it's not that.

Mike Evans and AJ Brown each missed 3 games this year with a grade 2.

Annoying thing is this is the kind of injury that's going to impact a big, deep threat WR more than most.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Maybe, but Houston sat Nico Collins for over a month with a grade 2 hammy. Let's hope it's not that.

Mike Evans and AJ Brown each missed 3 games this year with a grade 2.

Annoying thing is this is the kind of injury that's going to impact a big, deep threat WR more than most.

I thought I heard Romo and Nantz yucking it up that they thought he would have played had it been a more serious game via Tomlin?

[Thrillsseeker]

Anyone think Pickens hammy is more towards a benching with the crap that happened last game and then the BB material he gave them during the week talking smack about coaches etc? iirc.

[steelmann58]

Worried about Larry Q and if Watt or Jackson are ok

[LakecrestSteeler]

Anyone think Pickens hammy is more towards a benching with the crap that happened last game and then the BB material he gave them during the week talking smack about coaches etc? iirc.

I don’t think so, especially with talk of 2 weeks. Bench him for pulling trigger on Finger Gun and dropping a ball from 6” up in the anir on a guys chest after atoning for pick six. Private ass chewing, but not a bending.

Tomlin would rather say whoah instead of sick em!

[Pabst]

Worried about Larry Q and if Watt or Jackson are ok

Watt and Jackson both went back in the game after they were injured.

Montravius Adams should be back this week, which helps with DL depth.

[CzechSteeler]

Limited? Tomlin says doubtful. And if it is really Grade 2 tear, we don´t talk about two weeks.

[CzechSteeler]

Maybe, but Houston sat Nico Collins for over a month with a grade 2 hammy. Let's hope it's not that.

Mike Evans and AJ Brown each missed 3 games this year with a grade 2.

Yes, this is likely. (to play against Chiefs).

[K_C_]

I get Tomlin is hesitant to use a rookie at this point in the season who hasn't played a down, but I hope he comments on the Roman Wilson situation soon.

I mean, the guy knows how to play football and we might need him if there are more injuries.

[StillerDownSouth]

I get Tomlin is hesitant to use a rookie at this point in the season who hasn't played a down, but I hope he comments on the Roman Wilson situation soon.

I mean, the guy knows how to play football and we might need him if there are more injuries.

Pretty sure Roman won't be getting any action until OTA's, sure wish this wasn't the case but probably is what is going to happen.

[StillerDownSouth]

Good news is, Steelers basically get an extra 1st round pick and 3rd round pick next year, couple of redshirt years if you will, hope both these guys end up working out.

[K_C_]

I get Tomlin is hesitant to use a rookie at this point in the season who hasn't played a down, but I hope he comments on the Roman Wilson situation soon.

I mean, the guy knows how to play football and we might need him if there are more injuries.

Pretty sure Roman won't be getting any action until OTA's, sure wish this wasn't the case but probably is what is going to happen.

I agree it looks like he's done for the year, but I'd at least like to hear that he's practicing and could be available if needed this season.

The Steelers are in the midst of a brutal stretch and Pickens may be out awhile. That leaves Mike Williams, Calvin Austin and Van Jefferson as our top 3 receivers.

Williams has been injury prone, Austin is tiny and missed his entire rookie year (just like Roman Wilson) and Van Jefferson is a glorified TE.

I'm fine with Roman Wilson missing the season if Pickens comes back healthy and the other receivers stay healthy, but Roman Wilson should be 100% healthy right now and I'd sure as fuck like to know if he's practicing and preparing in the even the Steelers suffer more injuries at that position, which sure as hell isn't out of the question.

[Stosh-67]

I would not be surprised at all if Tomlin calls up a WR from the practice squad, rather than roman wilson.

Smh

[Stosh-67]

Brandon Johnson and Quez Watkins are both on the practice squad...

Watkins has 25 career starts, including 5 last year for Philly.

BJ played for Steelers in Cowboys game. 1 catch 9 yards.

Both have to uncanny ability and mental aquity to jump on a moving train...while it's moving

[Thrillsseeker]

Anyone think Pickens hammy is more towards a benching with the crap that happened last game and then the BB material he gave them during the week talking smack about coaches etc? iirc.

I don’t think so, especially with talk of 2 weeks. Bench him for pulling trigger on Finger Gun and dropping a ball from 6” up in the anir on a guys chest after atoning for pick six. Private ass chewing, but not a bending.

Tomlin would rather say whoah instead of sick em!

You’re probably right. I wondered because of the shenanigans but now seeing his hammy may be a little worse than originally expected thought.

Now I’m hoping that’s smoke screen and or extreme cautionary. Horrible time to lose him for any length of time.

[StillerDownSouth]

Maybe, but Houston sat Nico Collins for over a month with a grade 2 hammy. Let's hope it's not that.

Mike Evans and AJ Brown each missed 3 games this year with a grade 2.

Annoying thing is this is the kind of injury that's going to impact a big, deep threat WR more than most.

I thought I heard Romo and Nantz yucking it up that they thought he would have played had it been a more serious game via Tomlin?

I believe this was the thought on Sunday, but according to Tomlin in his presser they had a MRI on Monday and the hammy was worse than the thought, hence him saying he was doubtful to out this week.

[anpsteel]

Welcome to the Scotty Miller show

[anpsteel]

This is regarding Roman Wilson

Joe Starkey of Pittsburgh Post-Gazette offered this update in his most recent mailbag:

The last I spoke with Ray Fittipaldo, one of our Steelers writers, he told me he did not expect to see Wilson at all this season… When you draft a guy 84th overall, you expect to see him, especially in times of need. And with George Pickens facing an uncertain immediate future, this week would appear to be one of those times.

On the other hand, it doesn’t take much detective work to conclude that Wilson did not exactly make a huge positive impression on Tomlin. I’m not even sure Tomlin has left the light on for him.

It doesn't sound even remotely positive.

Shitty draft pick is shitty

[W&M_Steeler]

This is regarding Roman Wilson

Joe Starkey of Pittsburgh Post-Gazette offered this update in his most recent mailbag:

The last I spoke with Ray Fittipaldo, one of our Steelers writers, he told me he did not expect to see Wilson at all this season… When you draft a guy 84th overall, you expect to see him, especially in times of need. And with George Pickens facing an uncertain immediate future, this week would appear to be one of those times.

On the other hand, it doesn’t take much detective work to conclude that Wilson did not exactly make a huge positive impression on Tomlin. I’m not even sure Tomlin has left the light on for him.

It doesn't sound even remotely positive.

Shitty draft pick is shitty

That sucks. Is Roman Wilson a huge asshole or something? Hard to imagine what he'd have to have done to get so far in the dog house.

[K_C_]

This is regarding Roman Wilson

Joe Starkey of Pittsburgh Post-Gazette offered this update in his most recent mailbag:

The last I spoke with Ray Fittipaldo, one of our Steelers writers, he told me he did not expect to see Wilson at all this season… When you draft a guy 84th overall, you expect to see him, especially in times of need. And with George Pickens facing an uncertain immediate future, this week would appear to be one of those times.

On the other hand, it doesn’t take much detective work to conclude that Wilson did not exactly make a huge positive impression on Tomlin. I’m not even sure Tomlin has left the light on for him.

It doesn't sound even remotely positive.

Shitty draft pick is shitty

I simply don't buy it.

Wilson dominated on the best college football team just one year ago.

Dude is 5'11", 185 and ran a 4.39 at the combine. Was JJ McCarthy's favorite target at UM and made countless big catches for Michigan against basically everybody they played.

Wilson was known to have some of the best hands in the draft and was about as good at getting open as any WR in the draft.....and Mike Tomlin can't find a way to help make this kid successful?

Yeah...not buying it at all.

2023: Second-team All-Big Ten Conference. Team's Co-Offensive Skill Player of the Year. Led the team with 48 receptions, 789 receiving yards (16.4 per). Tied for ninth in the FBS with 12 receiving TDs. Started all 15 games for the national champions (1-10-10.0 rushing).

[zeke5123]

This is regarding Roman Wilson

Joe Starkey of Pittsburgh Post-Gazette offered this update in his most recent mailbag:

The last I spoke with Ray Fittipaldo, one of our Steelers writers, he told me he did not expect to see Wilson at all this season… When you draft a guy 84th overall, you expect to see him, especially in times of need. And with George Pickens facing an uncertain immediate future, this week would appear to be one of those times.

On the other hand, it doesn’t take much detective work to conclude that Wilson did not exactly make a huge positive impression on Tomlin. I’m not even sure Tomlin has left the light on for him.

It doesn't sound even remotely positive.

Shitty draft pick is shitty

I simply don't buy it.

Wilson dominated on the best college football team just one year ago.

Dude is 5'11", 185 and ran a 4.39 at the combine. Was JJ McCarthy's favorite target at UM and made countless big catches for Michigan against basically everybody they played.

Wilson was known to have some of the best hands in the draft and was about as good at getting open as any WR in the draft.....and Mike Tomlin can't find a way to help make this kid successful?

Yeah...not buying it at all.

2023: Second-team All-Big Ten Conference. Team's Co-Offensive Skill Player of the Year. Led the team with 48 receptions, 789 receiving yards (16.4 per). Tied for ninth in the FBS with 12 receiving TDs. Started all 15 games for the national champions (1-10-10.0 rushing).

I bet must guys drafted 84th overall fail at the NFL level. Almost all guys drafted were one of the best players on their college team. Everything you said is baked into a guy not being great at the NFL level.

[K_C_]

This is regarding Roman Wilson



It doesn't sound even remotely positive.

Shitty draft pick is shitty

I simply don't buy it.

Wilson dominated on the best college football team just one year ago.

Dude is 5'11", 185 and ran a 4.39 at the combine. Was JJ McCarthy's favorite target at UM and made countless big catches for Michigan against basically everybody they played.

Wilson was known to have some of the best hands in the draft and was about as good at getting open as any WR in the draft.....and Mike Tomlin can't find a way to help make this kid successful?

Yeah...not buying it at all.

2023: Second-team All-Big Ten Conference. Team's Co-Offensive Skill Player of the Year. Led the team with 48 receptions, 789 receiving yards (16.4 per). Tied for ninth in the FBS with 12 receiving TDs. Started all 15 games for the national champions (1-10-10.0 rushing).

I bet must guys drafted 84th overall fail at the NFL level. Almost all guys drafted were one of the best players on their college team. Everything you said is baked into a guy not being great at the NFL level.

We'll see.

I think Tomlin doesn't trust a rookie who hasn't played all year, due to first an ankle injury and later a hammy, this late in a season that looks to be headed for (hopefully) a deep playoff run.

Tomlin values veterans and experience. I get that and understand it. I don't believe for a second that Roman Wilson will be released or anything in camp next season or he's already been deemed a bust. I 100% know that's horseshit.

In fact, I think both Van Jefferson and Mike Williams are done in Pittsburgh after this season and we will draft a receiver very high next April. That receiver will, at first, be George Pickens' running mate but could also be Pickens' replacement if the Steelers either 1) can't make a long term deal or 2) are afraid to make a long term deal because Pickens is nuts.

I think the receiver room in 2025 will look like Pickens, Rookie #1 or #2 pick, Calvin Austin and Roman Wilson. Last dude will be a special teamer or veteran like Skowronek.

Wilson will get a lot of work out of the slot next year but right now, Mike Tomlin is too scared to trust a rookie when other guys are making plays.

Anybody believing Roman Wilson has already been deemed a bust is out of their mind.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I simply don't buy it.

Wilson dominated on the best college football team just one year ago.

Dude is 5'11", 185 and ran a 4.39 at the combine. Was JJ McCarthy's favorite target at UM and made countless big catches for Michigan against basically everybody they played.

Wilson was known to have some of the best hands in the draft and was about as good at getting open as any WR in the draft.....and Mike Tomlin can't find a way to help make this kid successful?

Yeah...not buying it at all.

2023: Second-team All-Big Ten Conference. Team's Co-Offensive Skill Player of the Year. Led the team with 48 receptions, 789 receiving yards (16.4 per). Tied for ninth in the FBS with 12 receiving TDs. Started all 15 games for the national champions (1-10-10.0 rushing).

I bet must guys drafted 84th overall fail at the NFL level. Almost all guys drafted were one of the best players on their college team. Everything you said is baked into a guy not being great at the NFL level.

We'll see.

I think Tomlin doesn't trust a rookie who hasn't played all year, due to first an ankle injury and later a hammy, this late in a season that looks to be headed for (hopefully) a deep playoff run.

Tomlin values veterans and experience. I get that and understand it. I don't believe for a second that Roman Wilson will be released or anything in camp next season or he's already been deemed a bust. I 100% know that's horseshit.

In fact, I think both Van Jefferson and Mike Williams are done in Pittsburgh after this season and we will draft a receiver very high next April. That receiver will, at first, be George Pickens' running mate but could also be Pickens' replacement if the Steelers either 1) can't make a long term deal or 2) are afraid to make a long term deal because Pickens is nuts.

I think the receiver room in 2025 will look like Pickens, Rookie #1 or #2 pick, Calvin Austin and Roman Wilson. Last dude will be a special teamer or veteran like Skowronek.

Wilson will get a lot of work out of the slot next year but right now, Mike Tomlin is too scared to trust a rookie when other guys are making plays.

Anybody believing Roman Wilson has already been deemed a bust is out of their mind.

You nailed it about the trust. Watch Hard Knocks and it is all through Tomlin’s language generically speaking.

He did it with Austin III. I think they need to have sick talent like Pickens. Even AB was eased in only towards the end of the season if I recall. Was there an injury for why he started getting more playing time. I am think catch on helmet and the Kracken was released.

[lifelongsteel]

I did the playoff generator

Best I can tell the Steelers will win the division and take the 3 seed as long as they finish 2-2 including a win over either Ravens or Bengals. Obviously if they beat the Ravens or Ravens lose any of there other games there odds go up quite a bit.

Overall it looks like tiebreakers favor the steelers as long as they have the same division record as Ravens. Gonna be a stressful end to the season.

Hopefully they don't have to rest Pickens too long

[swissvale72]

I did the playoff generator

Best I can tell the Steelers will win the division and take the 3 seed as long as they finish 2-2 including a win over either Ravens or Bengals. Obviously if they beat the Ravens or Ravens lose any of there other games there odds go up quite a bit.

Overall it looks like tiebreakers favor the steelers as long as they have the same division record as Ravens. Gonna be a stressful end to the season.

Hopefully they don't have to rest Pickens too long

A win over the ravens plus 3 losses wins the division, not necessarily #3 seed tho

[steelheadtrout]

I realize this may be a questionable judgement, but I'm not sure that having Pickens out is a bad thing. This makes "our favorite coach" /s have to play other receivers. It forces the O.C. to use his delighted T.E.s. If this team does make it into the playoffs ("Playoffs? Playoffs?") then having a slightly seasoned receiving corps would be a good thing.