Jaylen Milroe

[jebrick]

@K_C_ its not that playing rookie Milroe at QB won’t have them end up with a shitty record, it’s that there’s close to zero percent chance they’d spend another 1st round pick on a QB the following year. It’ll be a self-imposed doubling down on Milroe that will be the problem in 2026 and 2027 or more.

You very possibly could be right but I think it depends on just how terrible Milroe is.

If Tomlin’s NHALS goes bye bye and the Steelers win 5 games with Milroe and Mason playing utterly terrible (and with Broderick Jones at LT, both could die) I’m certain the Steelers wouldn’t pass on a a generational QB prospect in the draft just because they took Jaylen Milroe the previous year.

Also, if the NHALS goes bye bye, Tomlin will probably step down too. That would devastate him.

If it would make AR2 step down as well I would throw a party. He is the one I do not trust in the war room.

[Orangesteel]

No way in hell Steelers go back to back first round QBs in consecutive years. They are loyalists, and it took a dogshit QB like Kenny Pickett to deviate from that somewhat.

If they take dart/Milroe at 1.21 he’s here until at least 2028.

[Deebo]

No way in hell Steelers go back to back first round QBs in consecutive years. They are loyalists, and it took a dogshit QB like Kenny Pickett to deviate from that somewhat.

If they take dart/Milroe at 1.21 he’s here until at least 2028.

I'd also like to point out that if KP didn't force his way off the team, he's likely standing on the Steelers' sideline last season.

That's my fear: opportunity cost.
You take a QB R1 this year, it's almost a certainty you aren't taking one in rounds 1-3 over the next 1 to 4 years.

So you better hit on it. And I don't trust this coaching staff to develop a QB. Said QB needs to be a generational talent that transcends coaching

[Orangesteel]

No way in hell Steelers go back to back first round QBs in consecutive years. They are loyalists, and it took a dogshit QB like Kenny Pickett to deviate from that somewhat.

If they take dart/Milroe at 1.21 he’s here until at least 2028.

I'd also like to point out that if KP didn't force his way off the team, he's likely standing on the Steelers' sideline last season.

That's my fear: opportunity cost.
You take a QB R1 this year, it's almost a certainty you aren't taking one in rounds 1-3 over the next 1 to 4 years.

So you better hit on it. And I don't trust this coaching staff to develop a QB. Said QB needs to be a generational talent that transcends coaching

Totally agree

[K_C_]

No way in hell Steelers go back to back first round QBs in consecutive years. They are loyalists, and it took a dogshit QB like Kenny Pickett to deviate from that somewhat.

If they take dart/Milroe at 1.21 he’s here until at least 2028.

I'd also like to point out that if KP didn't force his way off the team, he's likely standing on the Steelers' sideline last season.

That's my fear: opportunity cost.
You take a QB R1 this year, it's almost a certainty you aren't taking one in rounds 1-3 over the next 1 to 4 years.

So you better hit on it. And I don't trust this coaching staff to develop a QB. Said QB needs to be a generational talent that transcends coaching

The Steelers got lucky getting Roethlisberger with the 11th pick. He wasn't considered a generational talent, he became one.

Trevor Lawrence was considered to be a generational talent. The Dolphins tanked for Tua.

Enough said, but I could keep going.

If Milroe sucks enough (I think Mason is going to have a very, very tough time behind our o-line) and the Steelers end up with a top 5 pick in the 2026 draft, there is absolutely zero doubt they would consider a QB.

The bad part is not all top 5 pick QB's pan out.

[gojira5150]

@K_C_ its not that playing rookie Milroe at RB won’t have them end up with a shitty record, it’s that there’s close to zero percent chance they’d spend another 1st round pick on a QB the following year. It’ll be a self-imposed doubling down on Milroe that will be the problem in 2026 and 2027 or more.

This is my fear also. I can just hear Art and Tomlin saying next year that Milroe made progress late in his rookie year, and because of that they need to stick with him. There goes our hopes of getting a franchise QB in 2026.

So, I have a question. I am no college football QB guru but wasn't this past draft the great QB draft class. When Stillers took KP everyone kept saying to wait until next year's QB class (which was this past draft). Who in this last QB draft class will be a FQB. Seems like every year we hear wait until next year's class. Who outside of Arch (who could flame out as well) is a FQB in the waiting.

Guaranteed we will hear just wait for the '27 draft class to get a FQB.

[Gonzo]

welll .. daniels, williams, nix, penix and mccarthy
daniels appears to be the real deal and williams will be fine with a better coach
the other three will see this year

thats a much better crop than kenny pickett
or this years group

next year has 4 at least that may be good ones

if ward were in last years class he may be 4th off the board
and sanders and dart not in first round

[jebrick]

I think no QB picked for the Steelers before day 3. The Steelers will get great comp picks for the next draft so they can trade up while the draft is in Pittsburgh. Great TV drama that the NFL loves.

[Thrillsseeker]

@K_C_ its not that playing rookie Milroe at QB won’t have them end up with a shitty record, it’s that there’s close to zero percent chance they’d spend another 1st round pick on a QB the following year. It’ll be a self-imposed doubling down on Milroe that will be the problem in 2026 and 2027 or more.

This.

If he sucked bad and we went 6-11 or worse, they’re not cutting bait after 1yr. Two years yes, even though I was surprised they actually cut bait with Kenny so fast. , 1yr I see as no chance of that happening.

Fuck Our head coach, fuck Art who the game has passed by. My hope is they both leave after this upcoming season and we swing big next year to land our franchise QB.

[jebrick]

I will double down on the Steelers trading back to get draft capitol for next year.

I saw an anaylst talking about the QBs and the Steelers and he was asked where would Rudolph fit in this draft calls and he said 3rd. Just no talent and a much stronger QB class next year.

Khan said they had some players that, if on the board, they would not trade down. Some team will want to trade up and this is the draft to get as many top 100 picks as possible.

[.Kodiak]

Today's MSN clickbait - Sanders recently visited Tomlin and the Steelers:

"The worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life," said an anonymous assistant coach [presumably no the Steelers, but if is could be a smoke screen ugggh]. Also in this link "Sanders hints he will be drafted by the Steelers"
https://talksport.com/nfl/3142562/shede ... -colorado/


"There's a toughness there that doesn't get talked about enough," Tomlin said. "There's a competitive spirit there that doesn't get talked about enough. I know he is very talented and he's made a lot of plays for his university and his team. The intangible qualities displayed on tape were very impressive to me."
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/tomlin ... 00586.html

[bradshaw2ben]

@K_C_ its not that playing rookie Milroe at QB won’t have them end up with a shitty record, it’s that there’s close to zero percent chance they’d spend another 1st round pick on a QB the following year. It’ll be a self-imposed doubling down on Milroe that will be the problem in 2026 and 2027 or more.

This.

If he sucked bad and we went 6-11 or worse, they’re not cutting bait after 1yr. Two years yes, even though I was surprised they actually cut bait with Kenny so fast. , 1yr I see as no chance of that happening.

Fuck Our head coach, fuck Art who the game has passed by. My hope is they both leave after this upcoming season and we swing big next year to land our franchise QB.

In the entire NFL I'm not sure bailing on a 1st round QB in one year has happened more than once in the last 40 years. (Arizona with Rosen -> Kyler Murray)

[.Kodiak]

In the entire NFL I'm not sure bailing on a 1st round QB in one year has happened more than once in the last 40 years. (Arizona with Rosen -> Kyler Murray)

That's why I'm now on board that they will take a QB in R1. If Shedeur doesn't fall, and they don't take Dart there, then they probably panic to move into R2 to get Dart.

Because, as you allude, Tomlin will get a pass in a transitional year at QB. And a pass next year because, hey, it's only the guy's first year starting. 3 years, which coincides with the end of Tomlin's deal. Hopefully Rooney expects much more than a lone playoff win in that time to extend him.

[gojira5150]

welll .. daniels, williams, nix, penix and mccarthy
daniels appears to be the real deal and williams will be fine with a better coach
the other three will see this year

thats a much better crop than kenny pickett
or this years group

next year has 4 at least that may be good ones

if ward were in last years class he may be 4th off the board
and sanders and dart not in first round

This is true. Daniels does look damn good. Yet like Stroud the year before. teams studied Stroud over the summer and he didn't look the same as the year before. Let's see what Daniels does in his sophomore season after he is studied over the summer.

[Gonzo]

stroud had a poor OL and three injured WRs
but, yes there is often a sophomore slump that that the good ones need to overcome
the larger point is the KP year was a complete void for QBs and taking him in 1st round was really dumb
and ... it does appear (on its face) that this year isnt so hot either ... but we will see

[jebrick]

@K_C_ its not that playing rookie Milroe at QB won’t have them end up with a shitty record, it’s that there’s close to zero percent chance they’d spend another 1st round pick on a QB the following year. It’ll be a self-imposed doubling down on Milroe that will be the problem in 2026 and 2027 or more.

This.

If he sucked bad and we went 6-11 or worse, they’re not cutting bait after 1yr. Two years yes, even though I was surprised they actually cut bait with Kenny so fast. , 1yr I see as no chance of that happening.

Fuck Our head coach, fuck Art who the game has passed by. My hope is they both leave after this upcoming season and we swing big next year to land our franchise QB.

In the entire NFL I'm not sure bailing on a 1st round QB in one year has happened more than once in the last 40 years. (Arizona with Rosen -> Kyler Murray)

I think Jamarcus Russell lasted 2 years

[.Kodiak]

In the entire NFL I'm not sure bailing on a 1st round QB in one year has happened more than once in the last 40 years. (Arizona with Rosen -> Kyler Murray)

I think Jamarcus Russell lasted 2 years

Ryan Leaf was moved after 2 years. If KP got 2 years, you'd have to be especially bad to be done after a rookie year. Heck even an R3 QB would probably get more than 1 year unless another QB fell in your lap on the draft.

[Deebo]

This.

If he sucked bad and we went 6-11 or worse, they’re not cutting bait after 1yr. Two years yes, even though I was surprised they actually cut bait with Kenny so fast. , 1yr I see as no chance of that happening.

Fuck Our head coach, fuck Art who the game has passed by. My hope is they both leave after this upcoming season and we swing big next year to land our franchise QB.

In the entire NFL I'm not sure bailing on a 1st round QB in one year has happened more than once in the last 40 years. (Arizona with Rosen -> Kyler Murray)

I think Jamarcus Russell lasted 2 years

Well Jamarcus Russell was booted partly for poor play AND his purple drank addiction.

Ryan Leaf was booted for poor play AND for screaming at a reporter.

KP asked out like a little bitch bc he had his job taken, so there's context there too.

When is the last time a guy picked that high was kicked just based on performance? Hard for me to come up with any names.

[StillerInCT]

Today's MSN clickbait - Sanders recently visited Tomlin and the Steelers:

"The worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life," said an anonymous assistant coach [presumably no the Steelers, but if is could be a smoke screen ugggh]. Also in this link "Sanders hints he will be drafted by the Steelers"
https://talksport.com/nfl/3142562/shede ... -colorado/


"There's a toughness there that doesn't get talked about enough," Tomlin said. "There's a competitive spirit there that doesn't get talked about enough. I know he is very talented and he's made a lot of plays for his university and his team. The intangible qualities displayed on tape were very impressive to me."
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/tomlin ... 00586.html

Yeah I saw us mocked to Sanders earlier. I hate that idea as much if not more than Milroe, which basically confirms we're getting one of the two.

[Thrillsseeker]

@K_C_ its not that playing rookie Milroe at QB won’t have them end up with a shitty record, it’s that there’s close to zero percent chance they’d spend another 1st round pick on a QB the following year. It’ll be a self-imposed doubling down on Milroe that will be the problem in 2026 and 2027 or more.

This.

If he sucked bad and we went 6-11 or worse, they’re not cutting bait after 1yr. Two years yes, even though I was surprised they actually cut bait with Kenny so fast. , 1yr I see as no chance of that happening.

Fuck Our head coach, fuck Art who the game has passed by. My hope is they both leave after this upcoming season and we swing big next year to land our franchise QB.

In the entire NFL I'm not sure bailing on a 1st round QB in one year has happened more than once in the last 40 years. (Arizona with Rosen -> Kyler Murray)

Yeah, right on. Starting to feel like no way we get out of this draft without drafting a QB. IMO it’s just a matter of what round they pull that trigger.

If they move up to snag a QB via trading a player or giving away draft capital either way I’m likely to tune out until training camp.

I can only bitch about this coaching staff and ownership so much. They’re literally killing my love for this team.

[.Kodiak]

Sooooo.....Sanders supposedly runs a 4.65 40....Ben ran 4.75

[bradshaw2ben]

This.

If he sucked bad and we went 6-11 or worse, they’re not cutting bait after 1yr. Two years yes, even though I was surprised they actually cut bait with Kenny so fast. , 1yr I see as no chance of that happening.

Fuck Our head coach, fuck Art who the game has passed by. My hope is they both leave after this upcoming season and we swing big next year to land our franchise QB.

In the entire NFL I'm not sure bailing on a 1st round QB in one year has happened more than once in the last 40 years. (Arizona with Rosen -> Kyler Murray)

I think Jamarcus Russell lasted 2 years

THREE! Longer than Kenny.

[bradshaw2ben]

Sooooo.....Sanders supposedly runs a 4.65 40....Ben ran 4.75

Shedeur Sanders last 40 time was 4.76

[Steel Ubaldo]

I am convinced that Tomlin is taking Sanders. I want it to happen for the sheer entertainment value. I would love a war of words in the press between Deion and Tomlin.

If this team can’t compete for Super Bowls, let’s make it a complete circus…

[.Kodiak]

I am convinced that Tomlin is taking Sanders. I want it to happen for the sheer entertainment value. I would love a war of words in the press between Deion and Tomlin.

If this team can’t compete for Super Bowls, let’s make it a complete circus…

I hope it's at least a bit of a smokescreen. I take a little comfort in knowing, despite how badly they clearly wanted Pickett, they still sat pat resisting the urge to trade up for him.

[K_C_]

A lot of smoke that Shadeur Sanders falls to the Steelers at 21.

Frankly, I’d rather take a physical beast with elite traits like Milroe at 21, before I’d take Sanders but it sure looks like Sanders is gonna be the pick if he’s there.

[Orangesteel]

Shedeur and Milroe are both ass.

This is dumb, if true.

[K_C_]

Shedeur and Milroe are both ass.

This is dumb, if true.

With QB’s you simply never know how they’re going to turn out.

Ever and the Steelers have painted themselves into a corner and they need a QB early.

[jeemie]

Shedeur and Milroe are both ass.

This is dumb, if true.

With QB’s you simply never know how they’re going to turn out.

Ever and the Steelers have painted themselves into a corner and they need a QB early.

But the reports universally trickling out from the rumor mill are that everyone (except Tomlin, I guess?) says Sanders gave some of the worst personal interviews they ever sat through.

Came off as an entitled ass who also is not very bright.

I suppose the drama meter would spike to 11 and that could be entertaining?

[Gonzo]

also there are many QBs that have come out that were expected to be good and were good.
Its the reaches -- usually based on pure athletic ability or College win rate - .... and with the importance of the position growing to such great levels -- the reaching has gotten more reachy and happens more often

And ... again, you cant simply draft a reach with no specific plan for them.

its the height of silliness to reach and then think you can plug and play with no revisions to scheme -- and in Pittsburghs case with no development plan and no proper QB coach.

drafting milroe and sending him out into the tomlin/smith offense as it stands and never changes -- is folly