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Post by Scunge » Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:42 pm

This is great news.

I have been told that Myles Garrett is the best edge rusher in the NFL, the best, #1, numero uno.

Funny, how TJ Watt has:

5.5 more sacks than Garrett
25 more QB Hits than Garrett
13 more forced fumbles than Garrett
6 more fumble recoveries than Garrett
7 more interceptions than Garrett, (Myles has 0 by the way, still looking for that first)
32 more passes defensed than Garrett
110 more tackles than Garrett
10 more tackles for loss than Garrett
4 more QB Hurries than Garrett
15 more QB Knockdowns than Garrett
17 more Passes Batted Down than Garrett
and 24 more QB Pressures than Garrett

There is not a single category that Garrett is better than Watt, Myles is a bit of a one trick pony. Watt IS the best edge rusher in the NFL and should be paid accordingly.

The cap is going up year after year, teams have to spend the money, we currently don't have a $250 million QB so there is no reason to bitch, complain or cry about it.

In regards to Watt, I do think they have to try and copy what Garrett does with the Browns. Myles Garrett is a pussy and doesn't have great cardio, so they limit his snap count. For example last season Myles played on 76% of the snaps while Watt was at 86%. They have great depth now in Herbig and Sawyer and they should start to shave some of those snaps off TJ, he should not be having over 900 snaps a year, all that does is grind him down and make him more susceptible to injury later in the year.

No, the recipe is to do what the Browns do, limit the snaps of your edge rusher, and then move him around the formation looking to exploit the weakness of the offensive line. They use Watt in that manner and TJ may set the sack record, 24, 25 and tons of even more splash plays.

So in summation, Watt great, deserved to get paid, and Myles Garrett is a racist asshole.



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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:29 pm

Scunge wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:42 pm
I have been told that Myles Garrett is the best edge rusher in the NFL, the best, #1, numero uno.

Funny, how TJ Watt has:

5.5 more sacks than Garrett
25 more QB Hits than Garrett
13 more forced fumbles than Garrett
6 more fumble recoveries than Garrett
7 more interceptions than Garrett, (Myles has 0 by the way, still looking for that first)
32 more passes defensed than Garrett
110 more tackles than Garrett
10 more tackles for loss than Garrett
4 more QB Hurries than Garrett
15 more QB Knockdowns than Garrett
17 more Passes Batted Down than Garrett
and 24 more QB Pressures than Garrett

There is not a single category that Garrett is better than Watt.

So in summation, Watt great, deserved to get paid, and Myles Garrett is a racist asshole.

Don’t look now but these morons disagree with you Scunge. :lol:
Myles Garrett beats out T.J. Watt as NFL's No. 1 edge rusher, AP vote finds
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news ... s-ap-vote/

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Post by CoolShades » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:57 am

Scunge wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:42 pm

There is not a single category that Garrett is better than Watt, Myles is a bit of a one trick pony. Watt IS the best edge rusher in the NFL and should be paid accordingly.

I hate Garrett.

With that said, he does beat Watt in the postseason. He does have a playoff win under his belt.

So there’s that.


I do understand that post-season success is not a category that Steeler fans like to visit these days, though.

As for this being “great news”, I guess if you want those 9 wins, keep Mediocre Mike employed and see a 9th straight year without a playoff win, they’ve signed the guy who will help achieve NHALS! It is the best news you could hope for.
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Post by Who Dee Knee » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:02 am

Scunge wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:42 pm
This is great news.

I have been told that Myles Garrett is the best edge rusher in the NFL, the best, #1, numero uno.

Funny, how TJ Watt has:

5.5 more sacks than Garrett
25 more QB Hits than Garrett
13 more forced fumbles than Garrett
6 more fumble recoveries than Garrett
7 more interceptions than Garrett, (Myles has 0 by the way, still looking for that first)
32 more passes defensed than Garrett
110 more tackles than Garrett
10 more tackles for loss than Garrett
4 more QB Hurries than Garrett
15 more QB Knockdowns than Garrett
17 more Passes Batted Down than Garrett
and 24 more QB Pressures than Garrett

There is not a single category that Garrett is better than Watt, Myles is a bit of a one trick pony. Watt IS the best edge rusher in the NFL and should be paid accordingly.

The cap is going up year after year, teams have to spend the money, we currently don't have a $250 million QB so there is no reason to bitch, complain or cry about it.

In regards to Watt, I do think they have to try and copy what Garrett does with the Browns. Myles Garrett is a pussy and doesn't have great cardio, so they limit his snap count. For example last season Myles played on 76% of the snaps while Watt was at 86%. They have great depth now in Herbig and Sawyer and they should start to shave some of those snaps off TJ, he should not be having over 900 snaps a year, all that does is grind him down and make him more susceptible to injury later in the year.

No, the recipe is to do what the Browns do, limit the snaps of your edge rusher, and then move him around the formation looking to exploit the weakness of the offensive line. They use Watt in that manner and TJ may set the sack record, 24, 25 and tons of even more splash plays.

So in summation, Watt great, deserved to get paid, and Myles Garrett is a racist asshole.
Great post Scunge.

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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:04 am

Congratulations.

Here's to another season with more defensive sacks than offensive TDs.

Here We Go Defense!!!
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers

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Post by CKSteeler » Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:14 pm

They actually haven't been one of the better sack teams in the league since Austin became the defensive coordinator and they stopped with the blitz packages that Butler had.

Only 16th in sacks last season and they were even lower in some previous years. So that's not even something to hang their hat on.

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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Sat Jul 19, 2025 10:20 pm

Don't most teams score more TDs than get sacks?

I think it kind of shows how inept the offense is at scoring TDs but the offense did do a little better in 2024.

2024
40 sacks
37 TDs

2023
47 sacks
31 TDs

2022
40 sacks
29 TDs
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
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Post by 955876 » Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:53 pm

In regards to Watt, I do think they have to try and copy what Garrett does with the Browns. Myles Garrett is a pussy and doesn't have great cardio, so they limit his snap count. For example last season Myles played on 76% of the snaps while Watt was at 86%. They have great depth now in Herbig and Sawyer and they should start to shave some of those snaps off TJ, he should not be having over 900 snaps a year, all that does is grind him down and make him more susceptible to injury later in the year.
Jibba Jabber just said “what chu talkin bout Willis”???

Moving Watt around requires adjusting the weekly game plan. That isn’t doing what we do.

Plus, the more snaps Watt gets early in the year the sooner NHALS can be secured.

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Post by CKSteeler » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:13 pm

They aren't going to limit Watt's snaps. They're going to run him till the wheels fall off.

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Post by Ice » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:35 pm

Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 10:20 pm
Don't most teams score more TDs than get sacks?

I think it kind of shows how inept the offense is at scoring TDs but the offense did do a little better in 2024.

2024
40 sacks
37 TDs

2023
47 sacks
31 TDs

2022
40 sacks
29 TDs
And those are three years where we've been statistically down on sacks, and we STILL couldn't score more TDs. 29 TDs in a season is expansion level sad, btw.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:32 am

Damning…. As all these stats are it will be business as usual, stealing paychecks. :x :oops:

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Post by langer » Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:39 pm

I just can't wait for when he gets a sack he can do that dance he does. That's gonna be awesome.
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Post by 955876 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:30 pm

langer wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:39 pm
I just can't wait for when he gets a sack he can do that dance he does. That's gonna be awesome.
He’ll rack up a bunch of sacks early while securing NHALS.

Then will turn in Casper like he did last year.

Dipshit Art II will say ahhh shucks. If only we could get a bounce here and a bounce there.

Jibbs will puff his chest after the media blows him for getting a “flawed” roster to 9-8.

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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:10 pm

He went "casper" down the stretch because teams adjusted schematically to the Steelers defense. Not that it's hard. But Watt was being doubled/chipped at a higher rate than normal. After that Colts game teams started to copy what they did.

The Steelers had no answers beyond well someone else needs to make a play.

It's funny how hard Steelers fans are on Watt. Garrett has vanished down the stretch the last two seasons and no one bats an eye. The standards for Watt are just different.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:34 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:10 pm
He went "casper" down the stretch because teams adjusted schematically to the Steelers defense. Not that it's hard. But Watt was being doubled/chipped at a higher rate than normal. After that Colts game teams started to copy what they did.

The Steelers had no answers beyond well someone else needs to make a play.

It's funny how hard Steelers fans are on Watt. Garrett has vanished down the stretch the last two seasons and no one bats an eye. The standards for Watt are just different.
Watt replaces Dirk Dawson as the most famous and best player to never play in a Superbowl most likely!

I still think Watt is as good as his stats, it is just that the Steelers' Defensive coaches are just that bad.

What is more likely...Watt is being coached up big time during the regular season and tearing the league up statistically and then then he falls off a cliff when his talent runs out?

Or Watt tears up the league statistically when the coaching is on all the other players, then when the games start to get meaty the terrible defensive coaching puts their heavy thumbs on the scales?

We have seen it over and over.

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Post by 955876 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:38 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:10 pm
He went "casper" down the stretch because teams adjusted schematically to the Steelers defense. Not that it's hard. But Watt was being doubled/chipped at a higher rate than normal. After that Colts game teams started to copy what they did.

The Steelers had no answers beyond well someone else needs to make a play.

It's funny how hard Steelers fans are on Watt. Garrett has vanished down the stretch the last two seasons and no one bats an eye. The standards for Watt are just different.
I don’t know about Garrett, but Watt is on record stating he didn’t want to be moved around. So his reluctance to be moved around is as much his fault as it is Jibba’s fault.

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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:30 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:34 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:10 pm
He went "casper" down the stretch because teams adjusted schematically to the Steelers defense. Not that it's hard. But Watt was being doubled/chipped at a higher rate than normal. After that Colts game teams started to copy what they did.

The Steelers had no answers beyond well someone else needs to make a play.

It's funny how hard Steelers fans are on Watt. Garrett has vanished down the stretch the last two seasons and no one bats an eye. The standards for Watt are just different.
Watt replaces Dirk Dawson as the most famous and best player to never play in a Superbowl most likely!

I still think Watt is as good as his stats, it is just that the Steelers' Defensive coaches are just that bad.

What is more likely...Watt is being coached up big time during the regular season and tearing the league up statistically and then then he falls off a cliff when his talent runs out?

Or Watt tears up the league statistically when the coaching is on all the other players, then when the games start to get meaty the terrible defensive coaching puts their heavy thumbs on the scales?

We have seen it over and over.
Just had to note that Dermontti Dawson played in Super Bowl XXX.

Hope Watt stays healthy and helps the Steelers seal that elusive playoff win this year. 8-)

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Jul 22, 2025 10:40 am

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:30 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:34 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:10 pm
He went "casper" down the stretch because teams adjusted schematically to the Steelers defense. Not that it's hard. But Watt was being doubled/chipped at a higher rate than normal. After that Colts game teams started to copy what they did.

The Steelers had no answers beyond well someone else needs to make a play.

It's funny how hard Steelers fans are on Watt. Garrett has vanished down the stretch the last two seasons and no one bats an eye. The standards for Watt are just different.
Watt replaces Dirk Dawson as the most famous and best player to never play in a Superbowl most likely!

I still think Watt is as good as his stats, it is just that the Steelers' Defensive coaches are just that bad.

What is more likely...Watt is being coached up big time during the regular season and tearing the league up statistically and then then he falls off a cliff when his talent runs out?

Or Watt tears up the league statistically when the coaching is on all the other players, then when the games start to get meaty the terrible defensive coaching puts their heavy thumbs on the scales?

We have seen it over and over.
Just had to note that Dermontti Dawson played in Super Bowl XXX.

Hope Watt stays healthy and helps the Steelers seal that elusive playoff win this year. 8-)
Thanks…Fucking AI will be the death of mankind! I worded myself out of that one. If you ask the internet most popular Steeler to never play in a Super Bowl AI lists Rod Woodson. Pretty sure he played in SB XXX too.

So then I go a little further down google and Steeler Depot had top 5 to never win SB. Missed the switch from play to win. Watt and Cam will lead the most popular to never play in SB most likely. Unless they get lucky and get a boost from a new head coach next season to goose the potential on the roster of the 26 and 27 seasons.
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Post by anpsteel » Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:26 pm

Woodson absolutely played in SB XXX

AI can be fairly useless when it comes to facts.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:41 pm

Scunge wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:42 pm
This is great news.

I have been told that Myles Garrett is the best edge rusher in the NFL, the best, #1, numero uno.

Funny, how TJ Watt has:

5.5 more sacks than Garrett
25 more QB Hits than Garrett
13 more forced fumbles than Garrett
6 more fumble recoveries than Garrett
7 more interceptions than Garrett, (Myles has 0 by the way, still looking for that first)
32 more passes defensed than Garrett
110 more tackles than Garrett
10 more tackles for loss than Garrett
4 more QB Hurries than Garrett
15 more QB Knockdowns than Garrett
17 more Passes Batted Down than Garrett
and 24 more QB Pressures than Garrett

There is not a single category that Garrett is better than Watt, Myles is a bit of a one trick pony. Watt IS the best edge rusher in the NFL and should be paid accordingly.

The cap is going up year after year, teams have to spend the money, we currently don't have a $250 million QB so there is no reason to bitch, complain or cry about it.

In regards to Watt, I do think they have to try and copy what Garrett does with the Browns. Myles Garrett is a pussy and doesn't have great cardio, so they limit his snap count. For example last season Myles played on 76% of the snaps while Watt was at 86%. They have great depth now in Herbig and Sawyer and they should start to shave some of those snaps off TJ, he should not be having over 900 snaps a year, all that does is grind him down and make him more susceptible to injury later in the year.

No, the recipe is to do what the Browns do, limit the snaps of your edge rusher, and then move him around the formation looking to exploit the weakness of the offensive line. They use Watt in that manner and TJ may set the sack record, 24, 25 and tons of even more splash plays.

So in summation, Watt great, deserved to get paid, and Myles Garrett is a racist asshole.
All around better player as the stats show.

Took the words right out of my mouth with the snaps. < 900

Highsmith has also been in the 900+ to 950 snap count pace.

Nick Herbig had 415 snaps last year. alot of that came when Highsmith was out, as he averaged 48-52 snaps in those games.
Otherwise he is in the 19-32 range. with an avg. of 23 snaps.

Lets hope Herbig can share more of the load as I see him working both side in relief of both TJ and AH and see 500-500 snaps.
Let hope Sawyer is a quick learner and can see 10-15 snaps as a rookie.

The Steelers defense has been on the field between 1,00 and 1,100 snaps per year the last 5-7 years.
As there offense was better < 2019...that number creeped below 1,000.

As far as TJ lining up all over the line of scrimmage.........
been tutting that horn for years.
And the few times we actually see it, most of us are in shock and yell out "honey" TJ is on the other side.........
She usually says I don't know wtf your talking about.

Or my boys will let me know it happened........
Hence, its like an eclipse. Very rare.

BUT, there were rumors or reports that TJ was not fond of moving around.

I would like to see all 3 on the field in 3rd and longs here and there.
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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:10 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:26 pm
Woodson absolutely played in SB XXX

AI can be fairly useless when it comes to facts.
Woodson definitely played in SB XXX coming off of his ACL injury less than 6 months earlier. He memorably pointed to his knee after a pass was thrown his way in that game. Woodson was THE fucking man!

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:28 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:10 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:26 pm
Woodson absolutely played in SB XXX

AI can be fairly useless when it comes to facts.
Woodson definitely played in SB XXX coming off of his ACL injury less than 6 months earlier. He memorably pointed to his knee after a pass was thrown his way in that game. Woodson was THE fucking man!
This. I remember too. 1st pass to his guy iirc.

That game can fuck right off into eternity just as my ex-wife can as well.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:57 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:28 pm
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:10 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:26 pm
Woodson absolutely played in SB XXX

AI can be fairly useless when it comes to facts.
Woodson definitely played in SB XXX coming off of his ACL injury less than 6 months earlier. He memorably pointed to his knee after a pass was thrown his way in that game. Woodson was THE fucking man!
This. I remember too. 1st pass to his guy iirc.

That game can fuck right off into eternity just as my ex-wife can as well.
Aikman was throwing to Micheal Irving


The pass was off target, but Woodson was in good position- which likely influenced the throw.

I agree on the general sentiment regarding the game. In lue of your ex wife, my disdain is directed towards NOD lol

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Post by gojira5150 » Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:35 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:10 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:26 pm
Woodson absolutely played in SB XXX

AI can be fairly useless when it comes to facts.
Woodson definitely played in SB XXX coming off of his ACL injury less than 6 months earlier. He memorably pointed to his knee after a pass was thrown his way in that game. Woodson was THE fucking man!
Woodson was my favorite player of that D. I was so Pissed when he was let go and became a Pro Bowl safety for 2 of the 3 franchises I Hate/Detest (Ratbirds & Forty Whiners :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: ). He was worth the $. Unbelievable
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:33 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:57 pm
Thrillsseeker wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:28 pm
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:10 pm


Woodson definitely played in SB XXX coming off of his ACL injury less than 6 months earlier. He memorably pointed to his knee after a pass was thrown his way in that game. Woodson was THE fucking man!
This. I remember too. 1st pass to his guy iirc.

That game can fuck right off into eternity just as my ex-wife can as well.
Aikman was throwing to Micheal Irving


The pass was off target, but Woodson was in good position- which likely influenced the throw.

I agree on the general sentiment regarding the game. In lue of your ex wife, my disdain is directed towards NOD lol

LoL. Right on. I hate both of those bitches.

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Post by Deebo » Wed Jul 23, 2025 8:15 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:33 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:57 pm
Thrillsseeker wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:28 pm


This. I remember too. 1st pass to his guy iirc.

That game can fuck right off into eternity just as my ex-wife can as well.
Aikman was throwing to Micheal Irving


The pass was off target, but Woodson was in good position- which likely influenced the throw.

I agree on the general sentiment regarding the game. In lue of your ex wife, my disdain is directed towards NOD lol

LoL. Right on. I hate both of those bitches.
Add me to the bitching about ex wifes club. God she is such a cunt. Thankfully both of my kids are over 18 and I don't have to communicate with this bitch.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Thu Jul 24, 2025 6:34 pm

Deebo wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 8:15 pm
Thrillsseeker wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:33 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:57 pm


Aikman was throwing to Micheal Irving


The pass was off target, but Woodson was in good position- which likely influenced the throw.

I agree on the general sentiment regarding the game. In lue of your ex wife, my disdain is directed towards NOD lol

LoL. Right on. I hate both of those bitches.
Add me to the bitching about ex wifes club. God she is such a cunt. Thankfully both of my kids are over 18 and I don't have to communicate with this bitch.
Amen man. Haven’t heard her voice in years. Been the best few years ever!

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Post by Steelcody7 » Sat Aug 02, 2025 2:02 am

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Stupid move. Should have traded his ass to get as much draft capital needed to trade up for the best QB Prospect next year.
Without a franchise QB you’re just spinning your wheels.
More of the same garbage 10-7 maybe backslide into a playoff spot and get embarrassed yet again.
This 100% but I knew this would be the result.

The Steelers could have traded Watt for an amazing haul and been in much better shape for the future. Instead, Watt will have some monster regular season games, and the Steelers will stay mediocre. The only good news is that by the time they are actually contenders again, Burrow, Mahomes and Allen will be heading towards retirement.

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