The Steelers Failed Organization

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Re: The Steelers Failed Organization

Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:12 pm

Tomlin said at halftime to the reporter

“We’ll keep snapping it”


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Post by jebrick » Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:15 pm

but on a positive note, Fields completed the required number of starts to guarantee the Steelers a 4th round comp.
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Post by langer » Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:16 am

When it came to ownership, Rooney was given a "D" grade. T
Well, that's fascnating
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Post by steelmann58 » Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:55 am

Time for a complete change

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Post by PennyBacker » Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:54 pm

Sports have evolved significantly over the past several decades, especially football due to the NFL's popularity. All of the franchises now have money because of revenue sharing. The Steelers' popularity around the United States likely contributes to them being even more profitable than other teams.

This puts the Rooney family in a difficult position with respect to new facilities. On one hand, they have significant resources they could be pouring back into the team. On the other hand, the Steelers traditionally personify their hometown's identity as much or more than any other professional sports franchise—the city of Pittsburgh is renowned for being tough, full of pride, and blue collar. Throwing money around to construct first-class working conditions isn't a privilege the majority of its citizens can identify with or may ever get to experience.

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Post by Steeldrama » Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:17 pm

PennyBacker wrote:
Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:54 pm
Sports have evolved significantly over the past several decades, especially football due to the NFL's popularity. All of the franchises now have money because of revenue sharing. The Steelers' popularity around the United States likely contributes to them being even more profitable than other teams.

This puts the Rooney family in a difficult position with respect to new facilities. On one hand, they have significant resources they could be pouring back into the team. On the other hand, the Steelers traditionally personify their hometown's identity as much or more than any other professional sports franchise—the city of Pittsburgh is renowned for being tough, full of pride, and blue collar. Throwing money around to construct first-class working conditions isn't a privilege the majority of its citizens can identify with or may ever get to experience.
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Rooney doesn’t sink money into the team because he is a CHEAP, barely lucid mope

He could give a flying fadoodle fart about the OUTDATED perception of Pittsburgh being a blue collar town.
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Post by .Kodiak » Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:39 pm

It does seem like Tomlin has a mandate to get back to winning playoff games. Felt like that last year, too. I guess the question is if he would be fired, given one more year, or allowed a lame-duck second year.

NHALS this season and PIT will own the franchise record all to itself. That means something to Deuce, no doubt. But I have a feeling when NHALS ends, so does Tomlin's tenure.

If this latest collapse continues, Deuce is going to become very uncomfortable with all the media chirping. Obviously he's fine with being mediocre while the media talks up Tomlin and the Steelers. But if they start talking down?

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Post by Steel Bingo » Sat Nov 15, 2025 9:43 pm

PennyBacker wrote:
Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:54 pm
Sports have evolved significantly over the past several decades, especially football due to the NFL's popularity. All of the franchises now have money because of revenue sharing. The Steelers' popularity around the United States likely contributes to them being even more profitable than other teams.

This puts the Rooney family in a difficult position with respect to new facilities. On one hand, they have significant resources they could be pouring back into the team. On the other hand, the Steelers traditionally personify their hometown's identity as much or more than any other professional sports franchise—the city of Pittsburgh is renowned for being tough, full of pride, and blue collar. Throwing money around to construct first-class working conditions isn't a privilege the majority of its citizens can identify with or may ever get to experience.
One would hope that the lack of premium-level facilities isn't because the franchise's ownership is cheap, but rather that there's some other legitimate reason.

The way the Steelers are beloved in Pittsburgh, if building an elite-level athletic complex allowed the players to better reach peak physical condition, then the citizens would get to experience those benefits through improved on-field performance.

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Post by Gonzo » Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:02 pm

did some really just try and rationalize D and F players Union report cards for Rooney and him trying to sue the Union to stop those reports as ..... well he really is a blue collar Owner ? do blue collar workers also like one of the shittiest fields in the league and .500 football by a markedly overpaid and soft team ? it's fine to try and argue that these report cards are silly - but to argue that Rooney does it on purpose is ... well ....

we appear to have bots or intruders about as well as a few that appear to be using ChatGpt to write their replies

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Post by 955876 » Sun Nov 16, 2025 1:54 am

the city of Pittsburgh is renowned for being tough, full of pride, and blue collar.
This team is far from rough, has no pride, and can’t really be called blue collar.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:29 am

Rooney is a cheap bastard.

Son of their ex controller told me so

Confirms what we all seem to perceive
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Post by CKSteeler » Sun Nov 16, 2025 8:19 am

I'm torn on the player report card shit. On one hand, it's an obvious PR stunt by the player's union and we have no idea who the sources for the info are even in a general sense. And a lot of is more about perks that players may enjoy but which contributes pretty much nothing to the on-field product fans care about. I don't give a fuck if the team is providing free child card at the stadium for million dollar athletes.

When this anonymous sampling of players rate the cafeterias, are they really grading the food based on nutritional value and how it supports their training...or whether they like the chicken wings?

Is the Steelers strength and conditioning coach bad because the players don't see the gains they should or because they are suffering from avoidable injuries, or is he maybe a dick? Or do players just not think the facilities are flashy enough? A good weight room really doesn't have to be fancy at all to be effective and I doubt there's any equipment any of these teams actually lack.

I don't care if there are high quality saunas for players.

We could go on, but you get the fucking point. I highly suspect whoever many of these players are, they are rating teams based on how much they are pampered rather than anything fans care about.

I fully believe the Rooney's spend less and cater to their players less than most teams in terms of facilities. That doesn't inherently mean anything in that report is actually a reflection of the issues this franchise has from a competitive standpoint. Because players are coddled fucking idiots for the most part who have been coddled since high school in ever more ridiculous facilities that people throw at their sports teams.

But it's also funny to see billionaire owners get embarrassed for being cheap assholes who refuse to spend the money needed to win. I have little doubt that these reports have led to various owners opening up their wallet more than they would have before. Less because of what the fans think and more because it becomes a pissing contest between the 32 rich assholes who own these franchises.

Final note - I doubt any player is really looking at the union's report card on owners before signing somewhere. Players talked well before any of this existed and know which teams provide what. Most if not all players are simply going to be happy to cash the checks of whichever rich asshole will pay them the most.

So yea...it's mostly just PR bullshit meant to humiliate billionaires, so overall I'm ok with it.

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Post by Deebo » Mon Nov 17, 2025 12:48 pm

PennyBacker wrote:
Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:54 pm
Sports have evolved significantly over the past several decades, especially football due to the NFL's popularity. All of the franchises now have money because of revenue sharing. The Steelers' popularity around the United States likely contributes to them being even more profitable than other teams.

This puts the Rooney family in a difficult position with respect to new facilities. On one hand, they have significant resources they could be pouring back into the team. On the other hand, the Steelers traditionally personify their hometown's identity as much or more than any other professional sports franchise—the city of Pittsburgh is renowned for being tough, full of pride, and blue collar. Throwing money around to construct first-class working conditions isn't a privilege the majority of its citizens can identify with or may ever get to experience.
Steelers/Tomlin PR machine in full force!

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Post by PennyBacker » Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:55 pm

The rationalization was regarding why a highly successful business entity—and, in my opinion, a successful legacy owner—would not be pouring money into improving the enterprise that is the source of the family's generational wealth, especially considering how many people deeply care about said entity.

To you and me as fans, yeah, build new facilities if it improves the team's chances to win. That makes sense in theory. But to actually break ground, construct, and manage that into a successful arm of the team takes administration. For a team with as rich a tradition as the Steelers, not just anyone is let into the inner circle and given authority to represent the brand. Spend several hundred million and fail? That's a black eye everyone will see for generations to come. One has to be certain when spending big money that it will be successful, because that proverbial genie can't be put back into the bottle.

Art II had to be feeling enormous pressure when he took over the team in '03. His grandfather and father were legends, the NFL was on a trajectory to grow parabolically in popularity, and the Steelers were one of the most revered teams in all of sports. Not just anyone is equipped to handle that. Considering that most generational wealth is squandered by the third generation, Art II has done well to leave his mark on the Pittsburgh Steelers' winning legacy.

There's little doubt in my mind that Art II is contemplating the next Rooney who will be calling the shots and how they'll handle the same challenges he has faced. The cycle will repeat, and there's no guarantee the next President will be as successful as him. My bet is Art II is more concerned about setting the next guy up for success than worrying whether his own accomplishments will be surpassed.

I want to see Pittsburgh build facilities that will produce Super Bowl teams. But the path there is more complicated than "ownership is cheap."

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:50 pm

PennyBacker wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:55 pm
The rationalization was regarding why a highly successful business entity—and, in my opinion, a successful legacy owner—would not be pouring money into improving the enterprise that is the source of the family's generational wealth, especially considering how many people deeply care about said entity.

To you and me as fans, yeah, build new facilities if it improves the team's chances to win. That makes sense in theory. But to actually break ground, construct, and manage that into a successful arm of the team takes administration. For a team with as rich a tradition as the Steelers, not just anyone is let into the inner circle and given authority to represent the brand. Spend several hundred million and fail? That's a black eye everyone will see for generations to come. One has to be certain when spending big money that it will be successful, because that proverbial genie can't be put back into the bottle.

Art II had to be feeling enormous pressure when he took over the team in '03. His grandfather and father were legends, the NFL was on a trajectory to grow parabolically in popularity, and the Steelers were one of the most revered teams in all of sports. Not just anyone is equipped to handle that. Considering that most generational wealth is squandered by the third generation, Art II has done well to leave his mark on the Pittsburgh Steelers' winning legacy.

There's little doubt in my mind that Art II is contemplating the next Rooney who will be calling the shots and how they'll handle the same challenges he has faced. The cycle will repeat, and there's no guarantee the next President will be as successful as him. My bet is Art II is more concerned about setting the next guy up for success than worrying whether his own accomplishments will be surpassed.

I want to see Pittsburgh build facilities that will produce Super Bowl teams. But the path there is more complicated than "ownership is cheap."
No, see my post above. They're cheap.
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Post by Deebo » Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:36 pm

DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:50 pm
PennyBacker wrote:
Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:55 pm
The rationalization was regarding why a highly successful business entity—and, in my opinion, a successful legacy owner—would not be pouring money into improving the enterprise that is the source of the family's generational wealth, especially considering how many people deeply care about said entity.

To you and me as fans, yeah, build new facilities if it improves the team's chances to win. That makes sense in theory. But to actually break ground, construct, and manage that into a successful arm of the team takes administration. For a team with as rich a tradition as the Steelers, not just anyone is let into the inner circle and given authority to represent the brand. Spend several hundred million and fail? That's a black eye everyone will see for generations to come. One has to be certain when spending big money that it will be successful, because that proverbial genie can't be put back into the bottle.

Art II had to be feeling enormous pressure when he took over the team in '03. His grandfather and father were legends, the NFL was on a trajectory to grow parabolically in popularity, and the Steelers were one of the most revered teams in all of sports. Not just anyone is equipped to handle that. Considering that most generational wealth is squandered by the third generation, Art II has done well to leave his mark on the Pittsburgh Steelers' winning legacy.

There's little doubt in my mind that Art II is contemplating the next Rooney who will be calling the shots and how they'll handle the same challenges he has faced. The cycle will repeat, and there's no guarantee the next President will be as successful as him. My bet is Art II is more concerned about setting the next guy up for success than worrying whether his own accomplishments will be surpassed.

I want to see Pittsburgh build facilities that will produce Super Bowl teams. But the path there is more complicated than "ownership is cheap."
No, see my post above. They're cheap.
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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:04 am

Today was totally Historic

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Post by Stillerz Bar » Tue Dec 02, 2025 6:05 am

The Steelers may have finally broken me. :cry:

I have loved watching the Steelers for over 50 years through good and bad and I enjoy just watching football in general. I watched all 4 games Thursday and Friday and haven't missed either a Sunday night or Monday night game all season. However, after yesterday's debacle i was just sick and just couldn't bring myself to watch SNF yesterday or MNF today.

We'll see if/when I'll be ready to watch my next game.

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Post by .Kodiak » Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:54 pm

Stillerz Bar wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 6:05 am
The Steelers may have finally broken me. :cry:

I have loved watching the Steelers for over 50 years through good and bad and I enjoy just watching football in general. I watched all 4 games Thursday and Friday and haven't missed either a Sunday night or Monday night game all season. However, after yesterday's debacle i was just sick and just couldn't bring myself to watch SNF yesterday or MNF today.

We'll see if/when I'll be ready to watch my next game.
Come on over to the dark side and realize rooting for losses and Tomlin's ouster is our SB!!!!

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Post by AirRescueFF » Tue Dec 02, 2025 4:57 pm

Finally retired: 31DEC25

He finally quit: 13JAN26

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