The Hunkie's Postgame

[steelmann58]

Bryant and big Dan did a good job and i agree DHB catch was big on a great throw by BEN.

[swissvale72]

You're such a dork Swiss

More like I'll drive two hours to play football in the morning, sample some microbrews, and maybe hit up a Starbucks. I am cultured but it's gameday, man!

Don't fret, B2B....Roggie's holds a Ralph Waldo Emerson circle at halftime.

[bradshaw2ben]

Is this like a Steelers bar or are we going to have to listen to the Patriots postgame while we watch?

[jeemie]

This sets up as a Green Bay 2009 type of game... arguably Ben's greatest game ever. I'm guessing his HC isn't going to trust his defense any more than he did that day and they'll lean on Ben.

Here's hoping...here's hoping the rest of the offense can keep up.

Remember...as good as Monday night felt- it was 24 points in the weirdest 2:54 you'll ever see...6 points the other 57:06.

[Legacy User]

The WPIAL refs being used despite the differences in rules is simple. Availability and accessibility. Where are you going to find NFL refs, the good ones are working? If you bring in some scabs then you are going to have a fight with the Ref Union. But the reality it could have been nuns for all I care.the results are we didnt get a flag until the 3rd quarter. I believe that penalty was a delay we wanted- no one here is talking about an undisciplined team now. Ok other than that deep pass to stop the clock.

As to Bryants catch- I am willing to forgive a kid for basket catching his first TD. The first time you had a girl who said yes Im sure you took extra precautions to make sure you didnt fumble away a sure thing.

I saw Moore on the field starting as the 3rd after being invisible most of the year. Him starting told me that he is going to be featured more and he might be the answer on some of that middle stuff that we are going to need against these teams

Moore, DHB, Bryant who cares? Someone in this group needs to give us a 2nd option in the passing game. Its that simple. Wheaton is working through whatever female problems a young woman can experience when shes stressed. The offense is relying too much on Brown to be healthy. Id rather take 4 or 5 targets from Brown if we can get those three contributing in the offense.

[swissvale72]

Is this like a Steelers bar or are we going to have to listen to the Patriots postgame while we watch?

Nope....absolute Steelers bar, at least the downstairs, we're we'll be going. In fact, come gametime, EVERY tv, regardless of whether other games are OT, etc., get tuned to Steelers football.

It's in Josh Miller's book of Steeler bars, which only lists 2 or 3 for every NFL city.

[Legacy User]

Is this like a Steelers bar or are we going to have to listen to the Patriots postgame while we watch?

Nope....absolute Steelers bar, at least the downstairs, we're we'll be going. In fact, come gametime, EVERY tv, regardless of whether other games are OT, etc., get tuned to Steelers football.

It's in Josh Miller's book of Steeler bars, which only lists 2 or 3 for every NFL city.

My kind of place. Cheers! Might check it out next time im in town, is the food good there?

[swissvale72]

Is this like a Steelers bar or are we going to have to listen to the Patriots postgame while we watch?

Nope....absolute Steelers bar, at least the downstairs, we're we'll be going. In fact, come gametime, EVERY tv, regardless of whether other games are OT, etc., get tuned to Steelers football.

It's in Josh Miller's book of Steeler bars, which only lists 2 or 3 for every NFL city.

My kind of place. Cheers! Might check it out next time im in town, is the food good there?

Dunno....didn't buy any food last time there, though '58 & I benefited from the generosity of an aged (meaning older than me) female Steeler fan adorned in a Timmons jersey. She slipped us each a slice of pizza....wasn't bad.

[Thrillsseeker]

Is this like a Steelers bar or are we going to have to listen to the Patriots postgame while we watch?

Nope....absolute Steelers bar, at least the downstairs, we're we'll be going. In fact, come gametime, EVERY tv, regardless of whether other games are OT, etc., get tuned to Steelers football.

It's in Josh Miller's book of Steeler bars, which only lists 2 or 3 for every NFL city.

Fucking excellent!

[Legacy User]

Cool, thanks Swiss.

[swissvale72]

Yelp review from a few years ago....might not want to read the rest, but I'll post the link:


http://www.yelp.com/biz/roggies-brew-an ... e-brighton

4.0 star rating
1/18/2011
This review is purely rating Roggie's as a mid-afternoon (Steelers-fan-friendly) sports bar.

I had a friend in town last weekend from Pittsburgh and she desperately wanted to go to a Steelers bar for the playoff game, and we found Roggie's. I came in with 0 expectations and was shocked.

Firstly, note that the small downstairs bar is really what is *supposed* to be the Steelers bar. But there were so many people, even the much larger upstairs bar/dining room was packed with Steelers fans. We got there just before game time and already there were no tables available, but a nice couple at a high top by the bar let us put our drinks on their table. Steelers fans are so friendly! (when your party contains other Steelers fans...). By halftime, a number of tables cleared out, and we snagged one for some food.

Decent selection of beers on tap. Large menu with lots of standard bar options. Food came out very quickly. We got the buffalo wings, cheese fries, and app sampler (mozz sticks, onion rings, popcorn shrimp), and all were executed very well. Even though the place was packed, the waitress was extremely attentive, checking on us every 10 minutes or so to make sure glasses were full and everyone was happy. They really executed everything like a well oiled machine - the bar, kitchen, and waitresses never got backed up at all.

It was an exciting game and everyone was into it, screaming and jumping out of seats and high five-ing and waving terrible towels. Quite the atmosphere.

Of course, after the game, the average age of the patrons dropped about 20 years and there were plenty of muffin tops and whale tails to go around. Didn't stay too much longer after that, fearing the next step was going to be cheesy dance music with barely legal, overweight, and under dressed co-eds.

So if you happen to be a Steelers fan, I would highly recommend Roggie's for all your football watching needs

[bradshaw2ben]

Sweet

[swissvale72]

Review must've been from the AFC Divsional Playoffs vs. Baltimore....Steelers down 21-7 at half, come back to win.

[steeledge]

Yeah, it really sucks that Todd Haley can't get open, especially across the middle on intermediate routes...

What part aren't you following here? Ben doesn't throw downfield by design. Haley's offense is all bubble screens and quick hitches. Ben excelled on those downfield throws under Arians and Whisenhut. Are you debating the stat posted in the article? or The fact that this offense is small ball? Or just ignorant on the topic?

I think the answer is

d) All of the above.

You 2 can fuck each other.
Slobber is probably better at the reachround, FWIW...

What part aren't you guys following?
When the offense was forced into "oh, shit!" mode against the Browns AFTER the two quick hit TD gifts that our shitty defense gave them, the attempt of a downfield passing attack was an ineffective dud.

Riddle me this: who is Ben supposed to trust throwing to on those intermediate routes, especially across the middle?
Grandpa Miller?
Marcus "I thought you said LEFT" Wheaton?
Lance "Fuck Yeah, I made a CATCH! WOO-HOO!!" Moore?
Even Justin Brown and DHB have been inconsistent at best in their limited looks - so who does that leave?


Fortunately, our insanely obtuse HC finally took the wrapper off of his shiny new Bryant for the Texans game...
now maybe Ben can develop some trust in a target not named AB that can get open in those intermediate routes...
you know, for that passing attack you guys keep blaming Todd Haley for excluding...

[Jobu]

This sets up as a Green Bay 2009 type of game... arguably Ben's greatest game ever. I'm guessing his HC isn't going to trust his defense any more than he did that day and they'll lean on Ben.

Here's hoping...here's hoping the rest of the offense can keep up.

Remember...as good as Monday night felt- it was 24 points in the weirdest 2:54 you'll ever see...6 points the other 57:06.

Is this like "taking away the long run"?

[Legacy User]

You 2 can fuck each other.
Slobber is probably better at the reachround, FWIW...

What part aren't you guys following?
When the offense was forced into "oh, shit!" mode against the Browns AFTER the two quick hit TD gifts that our shitty defense gave them, the attempt of a downfield passing attack was an ineffective dud.

Riddle me this: who is Ben supposed to trust throwing to on those intermediate routes, especially across the middle?
Grandpa Miller?
Marcus "I thought you said LEFT" Wheaton?
Lance "Fuck Yeah, I made a CATCH! WOO-HOO!!" Moore?
Even Justin Brown and DHB have been inconsistent at best in their limited looks - so who does that leave?


Fortunately, our insanely obtuse HC finally took the wrapper off of his shiny new Bryant for the Texans game...
now maybe Ben can develop some trust in a target not named AB that can get open in those intermediate routes...
you know, for that passing attack you guys keep blaming Todd Haley for excluding...

So you're saying that lack of middle field throws are due primarily not because those routes aren't called, but b/c we have no one to run them? You basically did three things in your response.

1. Resorted to base vulgarity.

2. Used ad hominems regarding receivers as proof for your point

3. By (2), most likely affirmed the consequent, a formal fallacy. To wit:
If the receivers were capable of running and catching middle field routes and balls, plays would be called utilizing midfield routes.
Plays are not called using midfield routes.
Therefore, the receivers are incapable.

Invalid argument if that's what you're doing.

[steeledge]

You 2 can fuck each other.
Slobber is probably better at the reachround, FWIW...

What part aren't you guys following?
When the offense was forced into "oh, shit!" mode against the Browns AFTER the two quick hit TD gifts that our shitty defense gave them, the attempt of a downfield passing attack was an ineffective dud.

Riddle me this: who is Ben supposed to trust throwing to on those intermediate routes, especially across the middle?
Grandpa Miller?
Marcus "I thought you said LEFT" Wheaton?
Lance "Fuck Yeah, I made a CATCH! WOO-HOO!!" Moore?
Even Justin Brown and DHB have been inconsistent at best in their limited looks - so who does that leave?


Fortunately, our insanely obtuse HC finally took the wrapper off of his shiny new Bryant for the Texans game...
now maybe Ben can develop some trust in a target not named AB that can get open in those intermediate routes...
you know, for that passing attack you guys keep blaming Todd Haley for excluding...

So you're saying that lack of middle field throws are due primarily not because those routes aren't called, but b/c we have no one to run them? You basically did three things in your response.

1. Resorted to base vulgarity.

2. Used ad hominems regarding receivers as proof for your point

3. By (2), most likely affirmed the consequent, a formal fallacy. To wit:
If the receivers were capable of running and catching middle field routes and balls, plays would be called utilizing midfield routes.
Plays are not called using midfield routes.
Therefore, the receivers are incapable.

Invalid argument if that's what you're doing.

Base vulgarity on Steelerfury?!?!?

Do tell...

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and pretend we're uppity now, mkay?

The Steelers could call all the plays utilizing midfield routes that you...um...fine gentlemen...want, but yins'd never know it if the shit doesn't connect..
If Ben misses the throw or doesn't even make the throw and attempts another option, throws it away, or (more likely) holds onto the ball and takes an unnecessary hit, how do you know the original intent of the play wasn't to utilize the midfield passing game?
...complete with midfield routes that Ben read as not being open...

News flash: You don't.
You just wanna bitch and moan that it's all Todd Haley's fault.

If Ben is not confident in his receivers catching it, or if Ben's having an off game (something we've seen far too much of in recent years), he's more likely to advance in his progressions and have the play end with a far less desirable outcome...

duh

If a bear shits in the woods and there's nobody there to smell it, does it stink?

[Legacy User]

You 2 can fuck each other.
Slobber is probably better at the reachround, FWIW...

What part aren't you guys following?
When the offense was forced into "oh, shit!" mode against the Browns AFTER the two quick hit TD gifts that our shitty defense gave them, the attempt of a downfield passing attack was an ineffective dud.

Riddle me this: who is Ben supposed to trust throwing to on those intermediate routes, especially across the middle?
Grandpa Miller?
Marcus "I thought you said LEFT" Wheaton?
Lance "Fuck Yeah, I made a CATCH! WOO-HOO!!" Moore?
Even Justin Brown and DHB have been inconsistent at best in their limited looks - so who does that leave?


Fortunately, our insanely obtuse HC finally took the wrapper off of his shiny new Bryant for the Texans game...
now maybe Ben can develop some trust in a target not named AB that can get open in those intermediate routes...
you know, for that passing attack you guys keep blaming Todd Haley for excluding...

So you're saying that lack of middle field throws are due primarily not because those routes aren't called, but b/c we have no one to run them? You basically did three things in your response.

1. Resorted to base vulgarity.

2. Used ad hominems regarding receivers as proof for your point

3. By (2), most likely affirmed the consequent, a formal fallacy. To wit:
If the receivers were capable of running and catching middle field routes and balls, plays would be called utilizing midfield routes.
Plays are not called using midfield routes.
Therefore, the receivers are incapable.

Invalid argument if that's what you're doing.

Base vulgarity on Steelerfury?!?!?

Do tell...

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and pretend we're uppity now, mkay?

The Steelers could call all the plays utilizing midfield routes that you...um...fine gentlemen...want, but yins'd never know it if the shit doesn't connect..
If Ben misses the throw or doesn't even make the throw and attempts another option, throws it away, or (more likely) holds onto the ball and takes an unnecessary hit, how do you know the original intent of the play wasn't to utilize the midfield passing game?
...complete with midfield routes that Ben read as not being open...

News flash: You don't.
You just wanna bitch and moan that it's all Todd Haley's fault.

If Ben is not confident in his receivers catching it, or if Ben's having an off game (something we've seen far too much of in recent years), he's more likely to advance in his progressions and have the play end with a far less desirable outcome...

duh

If a bear shits in the woods and there's nobody there to smell it, does it stink?

I never claimed to know and was only pointing out a possible fallacy.

I'm quite sure the shit stinks (unless you think perception is reality) but why it stinks is up for grabs.

I rather think the truth is someplace between your extreme and that of your opponents'.

Carry on.