Bryant

[Thrillsseeker]

If not for the unfortunate bench attached to his rear end for a month or so he'd probably be leading the ROY vote.

Don't forget the sprained AC joint. I mean, there is that also that kept him on the bench a little longer. But it wasn't the usual ride the pine for 2-3yrs because that's what we do. He was in fact injured.

[bradshaw2ben]

Well I do think you have to re pick at positions where the pick didn't pan out, same with FA guys-- you do essentially have to keep doing it until you get it right.

Who hasn't panned out?

LTs
Archer
Looking grim for Jarvis as a pass rusher and Worilds as a complete player
Foster is what he is by now
Mitchell sucks

Same as it ever was

[Legacy User]

Being reactionary after a loss. They signed Gilbert with approval from best OL coach in TE game. I agree on new LT, have steelers ever had franchise LT?

I do t think Mitchell is that bad and I know your Jarvis Jones bias

[K_C_]

We'll be picking in the late teens or early 20's this year.

No way on earth a "franchise LT" is sitting there when we pick.

[Legacy User]

They signed Gilbert with approval from best OL coach in TE game

Not saying this couldn't have happened but anyone have a link of this?

[steelmann58]

If Wheaton is our new KR then the pick of Archer really stinks especially in round 3

[K_C_]

If Wheaton is our new KR then the pick of Archer really stinks especially in round 3

Horrific pick.

Absolutely horrific.

[steelmann58]

Yes it know moves the pick of L Jones in round 4 off the worst pick list

[Steelafan77]

We'll be picking in the late teens or early 20's this year.

No way on earth a "franchise LT" is sitting there when we pick.

Not necessarily KC. Would you think AB gets drafted in the 6th RND still? How many UDFA's are "franchise Players" in the NFL? and Just because you draft one early is no guarantee. Just a friendly reminder. I know you know this shit.

[955876]

They signed Gilbert with approval from best OL coach in TE game

Not saying this couldn't have happened but anyone have a link of this?

Exactly what I was thinking Greek.

It would make sense that the FO seeks advice from the coaches as to whether or not a guy is a long-term sign or not.

However, I can't help but remember the Max Starks saga. The one where we'd franchise the guy and yet the coaches didn't want to start him. Happened a couple times IIRC.

There seemed to be a disconnect then. Is there one now?

Plus, MM hadn't seen Gilbert in a game. Only practice. Lots of guys are great practice players.

I would really hope they solicit the advice of the coaches.

Then again, some of our coaches said Willie Colon was the best RT in football.

[Legacy User]

We'll be picking in the late teens or early 20's this year.

No way on earth a "franchise LT" is sitting there when we pick.

Duane Browne, Houston Texans, begs to differ.

[K_C_]

We'll be picking in the late teens or early 20's this year.

No way on earth a "franchise LT" is sitting there when we pick.

Not necessarily KC. Would you think AB gets drafted in the 6th RND still? How many UDFA's are "franchise Players" in the NFL? and Just because you draft one early is no guarantee. Just a friendly reminder. I know you know this shit.

Elite Left Tackles are a bit of a different story.

Sure, guys can develop over time into studs, but elite, franchise protecting Left Tackles are DEFINITELY more in demand, than any WR's, RB's, etc.

If you are picking in the teens or twenties, give up on grabbing a LT in the first round.

[bradshaw2ben]

Being reactionary after a loss. They signed Gilbert with approval from best OL coach in TE game. I agree on new LT, have steelers ever had franchise LT?

I do t think Mitchell is that bad and I know your Jarvis Jones bias

Tony Dungy begs to differ on Mitchell. Watch the all-22 and you'll agree.

You're the one with bias-- Jones hasn't shown anything of note yet other than progress-- that's a first round pick at an incredibly important position. If he becomes that player I'll be thrilled and figuratively buy his jersey.

[K_C_]

We'll be picking in the late teens or early 20's this year.

No way on earth a "franchise LT" is sitting there when we pick.

Duane Browne, Houston Texans, begs to differ.

There are exceptions to every rule.

Finding a franchise LT in the teens or twenties of any draft is beyond lucky and rare.

[Legacy User]

They signed Gilbert with approval from best OL coach in TE game

Not saying this couldn't have happened but anyone have a link of this?

Exactly what I was thinking Greek.

It would make sense that the FO seeks advice from the coaches as to whether or not a guy is a long-term sign or not.

However, I can't help but remember the Max Starks saga. The one where we'd franchise the guy and yet the coaches didn't want to start him. Happened a couple times IIRC.

There seemed to be a disconnect then. Is there one now?

Plus, MM hadn't seen Gilbert in a game. Only practice. Lots of guys are great practice players.

I would really hope they solicit the advice of the coaches.

Then again, some of our coaches said Willie Colon was the best RT in football.

Very valid point 95, on another note who gave approval for Cortez Allens extension?

[Legacy User]

Very valid point 95, on another note who gave approval for Cortez Allens extension?

And also who gave approval to sign Mike Mitchell. Or to draft Dri Archer in the 3rd round.

[bradshaw2ben]

222
33
444
77
UDFA urfa udfa

13 of 32 teams starting LTs who are later than 1st rounders. Some of them are among the very best in the league.

You have to try to have success. My opinion is we don't draft or sign as UDFA guys who have Top LT potential unless they can play somewhere now. We draft primarily OT RT types who come from major schools. If we had rolled the dice on a few raw LT types over th course of th decade it's been an issue, we might have found the guy by now.

[Legacy User]

Very valid point 95, on another note who gave approval for Cortez Allens extension?

And also who gave approval to sign Mike Mitchell. Or to draft Dri Archer in the 3rd round.

It certainly wasn't the general manager.