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Re: Things that don't deservre their own thread

Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:11 pm

KC wrote:Worilds proved to me last season that is he all about the money.

He will not be an easy re-sign at all.

But our backs will be up against the wall.

With the emergence of McCain and Blake, I still believe OLB very well may be our biggest priority this off-season.


I don't get the feeling Worilds will be all that coveted in FA. He's not all that fluid in space. Most teams thats a prerequisite for a big money guy

I just think he'll be disappointed if he tests open market



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Post by K_C_ » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:15 pm

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KC wrote:Worilds proved to me last season that is he all about the money.

He will not be an easy re-sign at all.

But our backs will be up against the wall.

With the emergence of McCain and Blake, I still believe OLB very well may be our biggest priority this off-season.


I don't get the feeling Worilds will be all that coveted in FA. He's not all that fluid in space. Most teams thats a prerequisite for a big money guy

I just think he'll be disappointed if he tests open market


He will be overpaid. He had a pretty great year in 2013 and followed that up with a nice 2014.

He wasn't great this year, but he was consistent and hasn't missed a game.

He's young and now he's proven.

I don't think he'll see 9 million per, but he'll get 7.

Some dumb team will over pay him and Worilds will bolt the second that happens.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:26 pm

Isn't there going to be some Big Names out there this off season to boot. Here's a list of who Worilds may be in competition with.

http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/ ... inebacker/

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Post by Flanker » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:42 am

Are we ever going to find an above average punter? I think Josh Miller was our last...

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:45 am

That's an interesting list, 77.

The only guy on it I see getting significantly more interest than Worilds will be Justin Houston, obviously.

Orakpo is talented, but injury prone and he'll DEFINITELY be looking to break the bank. I think Orakpo might be in for a shock.

He's also 2 years older than Worilds.
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Post by Legacy User » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:08 am

KC wrote:That's an interesting list, 77.

The only guy on it I see getting significantly more interest than Worilds will be Justin Houston, obviously.

Orakpo is talented, but injury prone and he'll DEFINITELY be looking to break the bank. I think Orakpo might be in for a shock.

He's also 2 years older than Worilds.


For a guy who I think my have some upside, Jabaal Sheard.

I don't think he will command huge $ due to injury issues. But if healthy, he has potential.

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Post by Flanker » Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:34 am

Ross Ventrone and DHB have been great on Special Teams... Watch DHB hand fight and position his guy on AB's punt return. 8-)

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Post by Legacy User » Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:48 am

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KC wrote:That's an interesting list, 77.

The only guy on it I see getting significantly more interest than Worilds will be Justin Houston, obviously.

Orakpo is talented, but injury prone and he'll DEFINITELY be looking to break the bank. I think Orakpo might be in for a shock.

He's also 2 years older than Worilds.


For a guy who I think my have some upside, Jabaal Sheard.

I don't think he will command huge $ due to injury issues. But if healthy, he has potential.


I agree, he's natural fit at LOLB over TE. Very good pass rush ability. His inside rip is nasty. Plays to the whistle, Tamba Hali like in that regard and he's a hometown boy they're very familiar with. Sheard is a worker, much like Worilds. And will be cheaper

Only thing, he doesn't move well in open field. Not very fluid and stiff in coverage concepts. Worilds is too though

Problem is, they run a very different 3-4 in Cleveland. Its all one gap stuff and those concepts are very different on the front with respect to leverage, which means which shoulder to attack and disengagement. Its taken Worilds several years to come into his own, there will be a learning curve for Sheard too

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Post by Kodiak » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:32 pm

Iron_City wrote:I don't get the feeling Worilds will be all that coveted in FA. He's not all that fluid in space. Most teams thats a prerequisite for a big money guy

I just think he'll be disappointed if he tests open market


Be interesting to see what Colbert does. It's a thin FA market pretty much all around. I think Worilds is at least a $5-$6M LBer in FA....but I also figure them to sign Harrison for 1 more year much cheaper than that.

With Decastro and Heyward needing re-signed, I think you have to at least let the market determine Worilds value. Thing is, even with Worilds and Harrison/Jones, you're probably still drafting OLB high because I just don't see Worilds and Jones as the future. I think they probably let Worilds walk and draft OLB.
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Post by Legacy User » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:43 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Iron_City wrote:I don't get the feeling Worilds will be all that coveted in FA. He's not all that fluid in space. Most teams thats a prerequisite for a big money guy

I just think he'll be disappointed if he tests open market


Be interesting to see what Colbert does. It's a thin FA market pretty much all around. I think Worilds is at least a $5-$6M LBer in FA....but I also figure them to sign Harrison for 1 more year much cheaper than that.

With Decastro and Heyward needing re-signed, I think you have to at least let the market determine Worilds value. Thing is, even with Worilds and Harrison/Jones, you're probably still drafting OLB high because I just don't see Worilds and Jones as the future. I think they probably let Worilds walk and draft OLB.



I agree with $5-$6M LB, maybe even a little more because its a premier position. But I don't think that's all that much for a starting pass rusher in FA. Had they signed him a year or two ago, I think those numbers are more likely

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Post by StillerInCT » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:53 pm

Flanker wrote:Ross Ventrone and DHB have been great on Special Teams... Watch DHB hand fight and position his guy on AB's punt return. 8-)



Interesting to see how far DHB has fallen considering draft position.
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Post by Kodiak » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:54 pm

Iron_City wrote:I agree with $5-$6M LB, maybe even a little more because its a premier position. But I don't think that's all that much for a starting pass rusher in FA. Had they signed him a year or two ago, I think those numbers are more likely


You may be right. FA is pretty unpredictable. I pegged $5-$6M as his value floor before the season, and he's probably been a better than that. He's also come on with improved DL play and Harrison playing opposite.

I don't think he's worth big money. Doesn't appear to be a 3-4 OLB anchor - needs lots of help. Probably a better value for PIT to let him walk and draft his replacement. Ben's deal isn't an issue - I put Worilds 3rd priority behind Decastro and Heyward. They can sign all 3, but depends on what else they're looking to do in FA.
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Post by Legacy User » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:58 pm

StillerInCT wrote:
Flanker wrote:Ross Ventrone and DHB have been great on Special Teams... Watch DHB hand fight and position his guy on AB's punt return. 8-)



Interesting to see how far DHB has fallen considering draft position.


I don't necessarily consider it a "fall" as never living up to unrealistic expectations.

He was WAY overdrafted due to his speed. I don't necessarily see this as his failure but more as another Al Davis dipshit moment.

Truth be told, I like DHB. Hardworker, team first kind of guy who unfortunately learned how to catch from Dwight Stone.

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