Pirates Off-season Roster - Strongest in Years

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Re: Pirates Off-season Roster - Strongest in Years

Post by Obviously » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:02 pm

steel wrote:
Obviously wrote:
steel wrote:I'm sure you guys could GM a much better team while you're playing video games in your mom's basement in your underwear -- you're so skilled


I'm starting a conversation about the Pirates starting pitching. That's okay on message boards, isn't it steel?

My question isn't an indictment on Neal Huntington who I think has done a far better job than any of his predecessors since Sid Thrift.

So now that's out of the way, can you answer my question?

As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.




I wasn't directing my comment at you -- sorry

I like the rotation -- it's the best one we've had to start a season in the past 5 years. And I love our depth. The rotation will change thru the season, but i like where we're starting -- I think Cole will be a true ace


Sorry I misunderstood. All good, brother. I think you are right about Cole. Now if Cisco is healthy, that's a damn good 1-2. I think it drops off big time after that.


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Post by Legacy User » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:41 am

Haters gonna hate

But espn has us ranked 3rd best team in all of baseball going into next season

I think the baseball experts also see that we have our strongest offseason lineup in many years

Its really no surprise to me because I think it's pretty obvious if u can be objective -- but many can't

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:52 am

Iron_City wrote:Hacksaw, thanks for the breakdown

Dont let the troll bring you down


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Post by Jobu » Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:25 am

steel wrote:Haters gonna hate

But espn has us ranked 3rd best team in all of baseball going into next season

I think the baseball experts also see that we have our strongest offseason lineup in many years

Its really no surprise to me because I think it's pretty obvious if u can be objective -- but many can't

Third best team In baseball? At the risk of sounding like a hater, I don't see it. Good? Yes. Third best in the game...we'll see.

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Post by JackLambert58 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:43 pm

Here's the link for I think what steel in talking about:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/categ ... kings-2015

Article is by David Schoenfield

3. Pittsburgh Pirates

Big offseason moves: Lost C Russell Martin and RHP Edinson Volquez to free agency; re-signed LHP Francisco Liriano; signed RHP A.J. Burnett; traded 1B Ike Davis to the A's; acquired C Francisco Cervelli from the Yankees for LHP Justin Wilson; acquired LHP Antonio Bastardo from the Phillies; signed Korean SS Jung Ho Kang; traded OF Travis Snider to the Orioles; acquired INF Sean Rodriguez from the Rays.

Most intriguing player: Gerrit Cole now has 41 major league starts with a 3.45 ERA. It's time for the former No. 1 overall pick to make the leap from mid-rotation starter to a No. 2 guy -- and maybe an ace who throws 200-plus innings with a sub-3.00 ERA. The stuff is there, the fastball is there and I think he'll have a breakout season.

Due for a better year: After tying for the NL lead in home runs in 2013, not much went right for Pedro Alvarez in 2014. He had throwing problems at third base and dropped off to 18 home runs before his season ended in late August because of a stress reaction in his foot. He moves to first base and should challenge 30-plus home runs.

Due for a worse year: Relievers Mark Melancon, Tony Watson and Jared Hughes all posted ERAs under 2.00. Melancon's peripherals support his ERA, but Watson (2.69 FIP) and Hughes (3.99 FIP) -- who went a combined 17-7 -- may have difficulty preventing runs at the same level again. Expect at least a little regression from this trio. The Pirates will have to replace 122 innings in the bullpen from Wilson and Jeanmar Gomez as well. Maybe late-season callup John Holdzkom and his upper-90s fastball plays a prominent role.

I'm just the messenger: The Pirates ranked last in FanGraphs WAR for starting pitchers in 2014. Was the rotation really that bad? Well, the Pirates ranked 10th in strikeout percentage and 14th in walk percentage. But there is some method to all of this. The Pirates' starters did lead the majors in ground ball percentage; of course, the Pirates also shift a lot and do a good job pitching to the shift. Not surprisingly, they allowed a .222 average on grounders, third best in the NL. Sure, an ace would be nice, but the Pirates also have done just fine the past two seasons without one.

The final word: The Pirates have played the Cardinals tough the past two seasons -- three wins behind in 2013, two last year. Pittsburgh scored 682 runs last season (48 more than 2013), and it wouldn't surprise me if they score even more in 2015. They've got a deep lineup. The loss of Martin is a big blow, not only for his .400 OBP in 2014 but his defense, though Cervelli is regarded as a strong defensive catcher. The outfield of MVP candidate Andrew McCutchen, Starling Marte and Gregory Polanco may be the best all-around group in the game, Neil Walker is an underrated second baseman and Kang could challenge Jordy Mercer for the starting job. They have talent, depth, defense, a smart front office and a smart field staff. They finally leap over St. Louis.

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Post by Legacy User » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:41 am

Fuck yeah, Jack! THIS is the year, man. Fuck the Cards. We're taking the division by storm.

Let's GO Bucs!

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Post by Legacy User » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:30 pm

Buster Olney predicts Bucs to WIN THE WORLD SERIES

Don/t tell Jeemie -- he won't believe Olney made the prediction, or that the Pirates will win any games

and definitely don't tell Dumb and Dumber about it

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Post by Hacksaw Jim Duggan » Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:57 pm

steel wrote:Buster Olney predicts Bucs to WIN THE WORLD SERIES

Don/t tell Jeemie -- he won't believe Olney made the prediction, or that the Pirates will win any games

and definitely don't tell Dumb and Dumber about it


Yes, but how well does Buster Olney skate? :lol:

Also, still waiting for our messiah to http://www.freep.com/article/20131230/S ... ster-olney have that happen.

"I have stated something. I am not going to use any facts or my own personal, well thought out brain power to etch out why I think this way. Then, I'm going to inevitably get called out for it. Therefore, I'm going to find everything that points to my generic, thoughtless statement online to prove to people that I am right with my random thought." - steel

I'm sure Olney's prediction conjured a lot of hits for the fans of Detroit last season. That's the game that's played. Turns out he was wrong. Also, if the Pirates are such a great team, why aren't ALL of the sports writers going head over heels for them?

Tell me again how the Pirates roster is better than it was years ago? Oh...you're still using the criteria that in preseason it's stronger than it was last year. What does that even mean again? The Pirates are 9-8 and in last place in the Cactus League right now. They were 15-10 and second overall in the NL last year. There you have it folks. Last year's team CLEARLY was stronger based on one arbitrary number...Oh...preseason roster composition doesn't mean anything? STUNNED!

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:30 pm

Obviously wrote:As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.


Well that rotation is one of the best in all of baseball as I and several here had anticipated

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Post by jeemie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:42 pm

steel wrote:
Obviously wrote:As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.


Well that rotation is one of the best in all of baseball as I and several here had anticipated


We're 18 games into the season...1/10 complete...9/10 to go.

They've done really well, but WAY too early to call them "the best in all of baseball".

Baseball is a slog, not a sprint.

This is why we're not crowning the Mets World Champions yet.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:50 pm

No shit Jeems

But this was a preseason thread and I thought it would be interesting to revisit the thread now that we've run thru our starting rotation almost 4 times

Barring major injuries I think they've shown themselves as a very competitive group and so far theu only 18 games they are one of the best rotations in all of baseball

Which means the preseason moaning here by many sounds a lot like bed wetting so far

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Post by jeemie » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:54 pm

steel wrote:No shit Jeems

But this was a preseason thread and I thought it would be interesting to revisit the thread now that we've run thru our starting rotation almost 4 times

Barring major injuries I think they've shown themselves as a very competitive group and so far theu only 18 games they are one of the best rotations in all of baseball

Which means the preseason moaning here by many sounds a lot like bed wetting so far


We'll see.

Burnett's a year older...Locke has faded in the second half two consecutive seasons.

But I am more worried about the bullpen than anything else right now. Still shaky.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:24 pm

And if Burnett or Locke fail there is depth.

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Post by Obviously » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:06 am

steel wrote:
Obviously wrote:As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.


Well that rotation is one of the best in all of baseball as I and several here had anticipated


Yep, I agree at this point in the season. I hope it continues that way, and I'm happy to be wrong if that will be the case.
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Post by R_S » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:16 am

Obviously wrote:
steel wrote:
Obviously wrote:As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.


Well that rotation is one of the best in all of baseball as I and several here had anticipated


Yep, I agree at this point in the season. I hope it continues that way, and I'm happy to be wrong if that will be the case.


A post like this is a breath of fresh air on this site. Well done.....obviously.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:39 am

Hacksaw Jim Duggan wrote:
Obviously wrote:As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.


DISAGREE...this is CLEARLY the best offseason roster in years because stone cold said so. Already bought my hat and pennant.



Like I said, it's a pretty fucking good starting rotation -- saw that before the year even started -- maybe the best in all of baseball

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Post by Jobu » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:01 pm

steel wrote:
Hacksaw Jim Duggan wrote:
Obviously wrote:As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.


DISAGREE...this is CLEARLY the best offseason roster in years because stone cold said so. Already bought my hat and pennant.



Like I said, it's a pretty fucking good starting rotation -- saw that before the year even started -- maybe the best in all of baseball

Maybe??? ;)

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Post by Legacy User » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:02 am

Jeemie wrote:
steel wrote:
Obviously wrote:As of right now, is this Pirates' starting rotation?

Liriano
Cole
AJ
Morton
Locke

If so, I don't think this cuts it.


Well that rotation is one of the best in all of baseball as I and several here had anticipated


We're 18 games into the season...1/10 complete...9/10 to go.

They've done really well, but WAY too early to call them "the best in all of baseball".

Baseball is a slog, not a sprint.

This is why we're not crowning the Mets World Champions yet.


Jeems -- is it still "too early" to call our starting staff "the best in all of baseball"? Should we wait maybe another 5 years?

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Post by jeemie » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:04 am

steel wrote:Jeems -- is it still "too early" to call our starting staff "the best in all of baseball"? Should we wait maybe another 5 years?


The season is only 40% over...so yes, it is still too early to call them the best pitching staff in all of baseball.

They didn't give American Pharaoh the Triple Crown at the 6/10 mile marker at Belmont.

How about we just enjoy them for what they're doing rather than declare they've earned a meaningless distinction?
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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:14 pm

Iron_City wrote:Hacksaw, thanks for the breakdown

Dont let the troll bring you down


Whatever happened to this jackass named "Iron City"?

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:19 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:
steel wrote:Haters gonna hate

But espn has us ranked 3rd best team in all of baseball going into next season

I think the baseball experts also see that we have our strongest offseason lineup in many years

Its really no surprise to me because I think it's pretty obvious if u can be objective -- but many can't

Third best team In baseball? At the risk of sounding like a hater, I don't see it. Good? Yes. Third best in the game...we'll see.


Back in Jan/Feb, many people couldn't see how good our roster was --

There were those, however, who saw that we could be in the top 3.

Most did not foresee we would be the best team in all of baseball, which we are right now.

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Post by jeemie » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:48 pm

Allow me again to inject a note of realism, as other teams out there, while not as hot as the Pirates, have been having some pretty nice seasons of their own, others are potential sleeping giants, and still others always play us tough, regardless of their records.

Additionally, we just went through this last year...we were the hottest team in baseball for a stretch from June-August as we recovered from a very slow start. Look how that season ended.

But to wit, if we come through this stretch of games still solidly entrenched in the divisional and wild-card hunts, then we can start talking about "best team in baseball" We've played the good teams this year, inconsistently. This is a lot of good teams to have all in a row, with 15 of these 25 games away from the friendly confines of PNC Park.

Fri, 7/17 at Brewers
Sat, 7/18 at Brewers
Sun, 7/19 at Brewers
Mon, 7/20 at Royals
Tue, 7/21 at Royals
Wed, 7/22 at Royals
Thu, 7/23 Nationals
Fri, 7/24 Nationals
Sat, 7/25 Nationals
Sun, 7/26 Nationals
Tue, 7/28 at Twins
Wed, 7/29 at Twins
Thu, 7/30 at Reds
Fri, 7/31 at Reds
Sat, 8/1 at Reds
Sun, 8/2 at Reds
Mon, 8/3 Cubs
Tue, 8/4 Cubs
Wed, 8/5 Cubs
Fri, 8/7 Dodgers
Sat, 8/8 Dodgers
Sun, 8/9 Dodgers
Tue, 8/11 at St. Louis
Wed, 8/12 at St. Louis
Thu, 8/13 at St. Louis

This is as tough a stretch as you will see this season, and we will have JHay for none of it...our bench players are, to say the least, unimpressive.

Our starters continue to be great, or else battle through when they're not so great. A little concerned about Morton, who is bucking to change his name from "Ground Chuck" to "Air Morton", but he's the fourth starter so who gives a shit? Locke, OTOH, has been looking rather stellar for a fifth starter lately. So not immensely concerned about them for now.

And while a few of our bullpen arms have continued their impressive streaks (Melancon, Hughes, Bastardo, and, the surprise of them all, in my mind, Guerra), others are showing cracks as well. Caminero is showing that just because you have 100 mph stuff, you don't become the next Aroldis Chapman when your stuff hangs there in the middle of the plate with no movement. And Tony Watson has been making his appearances an adventure as often as not lately.

And then there are the aforementioned teams.

The Brewers: have been on a mini-roll, playing far better baseball than the last time we saw them...where they took 2 of 3.

The Royals: solid from top to bottom- that their guys were in the running for almost all the AL slots was partly due to a rabid fan base, but also partly because they are that damn good. You want to make a true case for the "best team in baseball"? I think you can look to the team that hails from the Paris of the Midwest and not go wrong.

The Twins: are surging- they've got a nice lineup, sparked by the arrival of Sano, and a nice pitching staff (starters are probably their Achilles heel), with a closer that's just as lights out as Melancon. I thought the AL Central was going to provide an exciting two-team race, and it still will- just I thought it would be the Royals and Tigers, not Royals and Twins.

The Reds: always play us tough at their bandbox, and have owned us thus far this year. One can hope Cueto, Bruce, and maybe even Votto are gone from the club by the time we play them.

The Cubs: Good hitting, decent pitching, and have owned us as well. May be too young to make a run, but never count a Joe Maddon team out.

The Dodgers: No more need be said about their pitching. That said, we have seemed to play them well recently.

The Cardinals: We suck at Busch- it's just undeniable. And they won't be so short-handed this time

So this was a long-winded way of saying this stretch of the season could make or break this team. For sure, when we come to the end of this stretch, we will know far more about the story of the 2015 Pirates than we know now

This stretch will be extremely tough, and our team still has some holes in it.

But I will end on a positive and say that at least this weekend proved they will never ever give up, and may just have a team dynamic that makes them better than the sum of their parts.
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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:02 pm

Every team has holes. That is something you seem to forget when you incessantly criticize the Bucs.

Last year was not a failure b/c we didn't win the world series. We lost to the eventual WS champion and the MVP Bumgarner. Nothing to be ashamed of there.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:06 pm

Most did not foresee we would be the best team in all of baseball, which we are right now.

Two questions...
Who declared them "the best team in baseball"?
...and...
What do they win for being "the best team in baseball" at the All Star break?

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:40 am

Jobus Rum wrote:
Most did not foresee we would be the best team in all of baseball, which we are right now.

Two questions...
Who declared them "the best team in baseball"?
...and...
What do they win for being "the best team in baseball" at the All Star break?


Does it really matter "who" declared them the best team in baseball?

It's pretty apparent to anyone who knows baseball. Excluding yourself, of course.

But then again, you were skeptical that we had a top 3 roster going into the season, so of course you wouldn't ever believe we have the best team in baseball right now.

On the 2nd point, if all you care about is the World series winner, then just turn off your computer and see who wins it all in October. Just don't even pay attention to the actual season, and it's ebb and flow. Leave that to the rest of us, who enjoy the PROCESS of watching our team evolve and achieve.

Lastly, this thread is a nice reminder of who said what before the season started. it's like having a "thread of record". Looking back at your posts is very instructive.

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Post by Jobu » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:15 am

steel wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Most did not foresee we would be the best team in all of baseball, which we are right now.

Two questions...
Who declared them "the best team in baseball"?
...and...
What do they win for being "the best team in baseball" at the All Star break?


Does it really matter "who" declared them the best team in baseball?

It's pretty apparent to anyone who knows baseball. Excluding yourself, of course.

But then again, you were skeptical that we had a top 3 roster going into the season, so of course you wouldn't ever believe we have the best team in baseball right now.

On the 2nd point, if all you care about is the World series winner, then just turn off your computer and see who wins it all in October. Just don't even pay attention to the actual season, and it's ebb and flow. Leave that to the rest of us, who enjoy the PROCESS of watching our team evolve and achieve.

Lastly, this thread is a nice reminder of who said what before the season started. it's like having a "thread of record". Looking back at your posts is very instructive.

Congratulations! You're this years "Look At Me Internet Champion". Not bad for a 12 year old!

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Post by jeemie » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:28 am

If you're enjoying the "process" of the season so much, steel, why are you so eager to declare them "the best team in baseball" every step of the way?

And why are you not in the game threads with us, living and dying with each moment of the season...which is, after all, what the "process" is?

No, instead, you only post in certain threads to try and "tell us so".

And as for those calls in the "threads of record"...even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

As Jobu said, congratulations- you win the Interwebs!!!
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Post by Hacksaw Jim Duggan » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:36 pm

Jeemie wrote:If you're enjoying the "process" of the season so much, steel, why are you so eager to declare them "the best team in baseball" every step of the way?

And why are you not in the game threads with us, living and dying with each moment of the season...which is, after all, what the "process" is?

No, instead, you only post in certain threads to try and "tell us so".

And as for those calls in the "threads of record"...even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

As Jobu said, congratulations- you win the Interwebs!!!


There was nothing to "tell us so" about. Moron made an unquantifiable statement backed by no factual evidence and called everyone dumb for not agreeing with his borderline retarded rambling.

"herp derp best off-season roster in years."

I still don't get what that means. Zero games are played during the offseason.

That team doesn't exist anymore. The projected "strong" offseason roster has drastically changed since Opening Day, hell...since the All-Star break.

This is like me saying I have the baby of the year when my wife is two months pregnant. From there, the baby could turn out to be the second coming of Hitler or be still born. Does it really matter that I arbitrarily said the baby would be the baby of the year at two months? Nope.

Just as I could say the Pirates have had the strongest offseason roster in years, then the team wins the world series...or the team gets in a terrible plane crash and all dies....and on their graves "Strongest Off-season Roster - in Years."

It was a useless, pointless, idiotic statement...made even funnier by the fact that two injuries have put this team in such a hole depth wise that they batted five hitters with a career average of less than .220 in two consecutive nights. So much for strength of bench.

Judging previous seasons by how they looked during the offseason that year is stupid. I could say the 2013 Pirates looked worse than 2014, but what does that matter? They got players like Byrd and Morneau that helped them get past the Reds and into the divisional round and they got further.


There's every reason to look at how each team ended their respective seasons, as thats how they were when it mattered most. Just like it wouldn't be fair to compare the Pirates now with who they COULD be at the end of this season. - a smart man


Also, the Pirates have been a playoff team the past two seasons, firmly in line behind St. Louis for the first wild card spot. Where do the Pirates find themselves this season? In the same position..first in line for a wild card spot and a wild card home game against a team like LA or SF. Why are you acting like the Pirates are surprisingly doing well, steel. Is this progress?

To even say this team is the best in baseball as of now...wow. California and Missouri would like a word with you.

Don't worry, I'm sure putting Josh Harrison at first will solve everything!!! You know, the guy who will be coming off of thumb surgery, has 13 errors in 75 games to Pedro's 15 errors in 87 games, and has never played the position before.

steel....What a fucking moron.

p.s. steel (who I will now code name "stupid"), why do you constantly (and incorrectly) use em dashes and capitalized words?

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Post by Legacy User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:02 pm

HI DUMMY!!

it's fun to see your stupidity from Jan/Feb resurrected in this thread -- thanks for bringing it back to life!

We literally had our best offseason roster IN FUCKING YEARS, and you couldn't see it THEN, and you STILL CAN'T SEE IT NOW

fucking idiot



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Jeemie wrote:If you're enjoying the "process" of the season so much, steel, why are you so eager to declare them "the best team in baseball" every step of the way?

And why are you not in the game threads with us, living and dying with each moment of the season...which is, after all, what the "process" is?

No, instead, you only post in certain threads to try and "tell us so".

And as for those calls in the "threads of record"...even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

As Jobu said, congratulations- you win the Interwebs!!!


There was nothing to "tell us so" about. Moron made an unquantifiable statement backed by no factual evidence and called everyone dumb for not agreeing with his borderline retarded rambling.

"herp derp best off-season roster in years."

I still don't get what that means. Zero games are played during the offseason.

That team doesn't exist anymore. The projected "strong" offseason roster has drastically changed since Opening Day, hell...since the All-Star break.

This is like me saying I have the baby of the year when my wife is two months pregnant. From there, the baby could turn out to be the second coming of Hitler or be still born. Does it really matter that I arbitrarily said the baby would be the baby of the year at two months? Nope.

Just as I could say the Pirates have had the strongest offseason roster in years, then the team wins the world series...or the team gets in a terrible plane crash and all dies....and on their graves "Strongest Off-season Roster - in Years."

It was a useless, pointless, idiotic statement...made even funnier by the fact that two injuries have put this team in such a hole depth wise that they batted five hitters with a career average of less than .220 in two consecutive nights. So much for strength of bench.

Judging previous seasons by how they looked during the offseason that year is stupid. I could say the 2013 Pirates looked worse than 2014, but what does that matter? They got players like Byrd and Morneau that helped them get past the Reds and into the divisional round and they got further.


There's every reason to look at how each team ended their respective seasons, as thats how they were when it mattered most. Just like it wouldn't be fair to compare the Pirates now with who they COULD be at the end of this season. - a smart man


Also, the Pirates have been a playoff team the past two seasons, firmly in line behind St. Louis for the first wild card spot. Where do the Pirates find themselves this season? In the same position..first in line for a wild card spot and a wild card home game against a team like LA or SF. Why are you acting like the Pirates are surprisingly doing well, steel. Is this progress?

To even say this team is the best in baseball as of now...wow. California and Missouri would like a word with you.

Don't worry, I'm sure putting Josh Harrison at first will solve everything!!! You know, the guy who will be coming off of thumb surgery, has 13 errors in 75 games to Pedro's 15 errors in 87 games, and has never played the position before.

steel....What a fucking moron.

p.s. steel (who I will now code name "stupid"), why do you constantly (and incorrectly) use em dashes and capitalized words?

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Post by Hacksaw Jim Duggan » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:14 pm

Maybe repeating the same baseless facts makes things true in your world, not mine mr. code name "stupid"

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