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Re: Fins want Haley - per Breer

Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:49 pm

I've never been a big haley fan,,but....I like the offense..Ben is comfortable with Haley now..i would be hesitant to want Ben and another OC, who will have his own ideas and concepts..to start all over again.



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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:18 pm

no way somebody gets hired who wants to start over

my guess? Fitchner. Ben has comfort level, he's Tomlin's guy, through and through... little difficulty in transition.
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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:20 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:no way somebody gets hired who wants to start over

my guess? Fitchner. Ben has comfort level, he's Tomlin's guy, through and through... little difficulty in transition.


I honestly thought he was going to be the choice after they got rid of Arians.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:29 pm

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bradshaw2ben wrote:no way somebody gets hired who wants to start over

my guess? Fitchner. Ben has comfort level, he's Tomlin's guy, through and through... little difficulty in transition.


I honestly thought he was going to be the choice after they got rid of Arians.




I did too until I relaized who Haleys dad was.

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Post by the-other-burg » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:41 pm

I have a love/hate view of Haley.

Hate, while I am watching the games
Love, when I look at the stat sheet afterwards


I question play calls, as I am sure most fans due. However the end result has been consitently solid. Our offense has entered new territory. I am sure much of that has to do with personnel, but his mission was to keep Ben upright and healthy and for the most part he has succeeded. Ben being considered by many to now be the best in the game is a positive reflection on the offense he runs.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:13 pm

the-other-burg wrote:I have a love/hate view of Haley.

Hate, while I am watching the games
Love, when I look at the stat sheet afterwards


I question play calls, as I am sure most fans due. However the end result has been consitently solid. Our offense has entered new territory. I am sure much of that has to do with personnel, but his mission was to keep Ben upright and healthy and for the most part he has succeeded. Ben being considered by many to now be the best in the game is a positive reflection on the offense he runs.



Exactly. No matter who the OC is, there will be something to be pissed off about. People have short memories, but this board used to go apeshit over Arians called games, calling for him to be canned for years. Of course we can't go back and find those threads since the board was hacked and wiped out a few times, but I remember. I also remember who the leaders of the Fire Arians! charge were.

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Post by Donnie Brasco » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:51 pm

Luca Brasi wrote:
the-other-burg wrote:I have a love/hate view of Haley.

Hate, while I am watching the games
Love, when I look at the stat sheet afterwards


I question play calls, as I am sure most fans due. However the end result has been consitently solid. Our offense has entered new territory. I am sure much of that has to do with personnel, but his mission was to keep Ben upright and healthy and for the most part he has succeeded. Ben being considered by many to now be the best in the game is a positive reflection on the offense he runs.



Exactly. No matter who the OC is, there will be something to be pissed off about. People have short memories, but this board used to go apeshit over Arians called games, calling for him to be canned for years. Of course we can't go back and find those threads since the board was hacked and wiped out a few times, but I remember. I also remember who the leaders of the Fire Arians! charge were.


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Post by 86n96 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:52 pm

Luca Brasi wrote:
the-other-burg wrote:I have a love/hate view of Haley.

Hate, while I am watching the games
Love, when I look at the stat sheet afterwards


I question play calls, as I am sure most fans due. However the end result has been consitently solid. Our offense has entered new territory. I am sure much of that has to do with personnel, but his mission was to keep Ben upright and healthy and for the most part he has succeeded. Ben being considered by many to now be the best in the game is a positive reflection on the offense he runs.



Exactly. No matter who the OC is, there will be something to be pissed off about. People have short memories, but this board used to go apeshit over Arians called games, calling for him to be canned for years. Of course we can't go back and find those threads since the board was hacked and wiped out a few times, but I remember. I also remember who the leaders of the Fire Arians! charge were.

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:08 am

Donnie Brasco wrote:
Luca Brasi wrote:
the-other-burg wrote:I have a love/hate view of Haley.

Hate, while I am watching the games
Love, when I look at the stat sheet afterwards


I question play calls, as I am sure most fans due. However the end result has been consitently solid. Our offense has entered new territory. I am sure much of that has to do with personnel, but his mission was to keep Ben upright and healthy and for the most part he has succeeded. Ben being considered by many to now be the best in the game is a positive reflection on the offense he runs.



Exactly. No matter who the OC is, there will be something to be pissed off about. People have short memories, but this board used to go apeshit over Arians called games, calling for him to be canned for years. Of course we can't go back and find those threads since the board was hacked and wiped out a few times, but I remember. I also remember who the leaders of the Fire Arians! charge were.


"End Arians Abortions" :lol:

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Post by lifelongsteel » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:49 am

We could go without an OC, as Ben can write up plays (see SD bomb) and 100% of the time his play calls work every time.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:52 am

Lifelongsteel wrote:We could go without an OC, as Ben can write up plays (see SD bomb) and 100% of the time his play calls work every time.




We could go without the potted plant too truth be told :D

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Post by 86n96 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:38 am

Lifelongsteel wrote:We could go without an OC, as Ben can write up plays (see SD bomb) and 100% of the time his play calls work every time.

So it is written in The Holy Book of Game Threads.
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Post by Jobu » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:56 am

So it is written in The Holy Book of Game Threads.

Holy shit! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by StillerInCT » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:14 pm

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We should be smarter on those plays, but to be honest, I like the aggression. I'd rather us take our shots deep than consistently throw in front of the sticks.


Really? Really?

I dont think that is accurate, or reasonable. There are also throws beyond the sticks, and a midrange, etc. instead of just bombs and bubble screens.


Yes, but I'm talking about a situation where we either throw it in front and hope for RAC or take our deep shot. I'd rather us be aggressive. Of course we can throw mid range.
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Post by Scunge » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:24 pm

Fitchner would be my pick to succeed Haley if he were to leave for a head coaching gig.

Why Fitchner? It seems to me that behind the scenes he was the one that really got this offense rolling. Even Ben and Haley were giving props to Randy in the offseason. And this season with the success of the 2 point conversions, it is none other than Randy Fitchner who got the credit for developing the "seven shots". Both Ben and Haley admitted in interviews that it was Fitchner who spearheaded and developed the whole thing.

So, you have unprecedented success with 2 point conversions, set an NFL record of 8 successful 2 pointers in one season and this was developed and pushed by your QB coach who also was your WR coach for 3 seasons. He has worked as the QB coach, the WR coach and been under both Arians and Haley.

In college, while at Memphis as the OC and QB coach they set school records on offense. He coached DeAngelo Williams while at Memphis.

I wonder what this aggressive, innovative coach could do with Ben and the talent we have on offense. He schemes and frees players open on these two point conversions attempts and that is just anti-Haley. This offense could very well get better if Haley left and Fitchner was promoted.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:48 pm

Scunge wrote:Fitchner would be my pick to succeed Haley if he were to leave for a head coaching gig.

Why Fitchner? It seems to me that behind the scenes he was the one that really got this offense rolling. Even Ben and Haley were giving props to Randy in the offseason. And this season with the success of the 2 point conversions, it is none other than Randy Fitchner who got the credit for developing the "seven shots". Both Ben and Haley admitted in interviews that it was Fitchner who spearheaded and developed the whole thing.

So, you have unprecedented success with 2 point conversions, set an NFL record of 8 successful 2 pointers in one season and this was developed and pushed by your QB coach who also was your WR coach for 3 seasons. He has worked as the QB coach, the WR coach and been under both Arians and Haley.

In college, while at Memphis as the OC and QB coach they set school records on offense. He coached DeAngelo Williams while at Memphis.

I wonder what this aggressive, innovative coach could do with Ben and the talent we have on offense. He schemes and frees players open on these two point conversions attempts and that is just anti-Haley. This offense could very well get better if Haley left and Fitchner was promoted.

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Post by jebrick » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:24 pm

I was reading an article with all the vacancies, scheduled interviews and rumors. Haley's name was not linked to any job on the list. Hue Jackson is mentioned for more than half of the openings to get at least an interview.
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Post by Smashmouth21 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:28 pm

Lifelongsteel wrote:We could go without an OC, as Ben can write up plays (see SD bomb) and 100% of the time his play calls work every time.

60% of the time, it works every time. The rest of the time, it's a WTF interception.

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Post by Legacy User » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:31 am

Aditi Kinkhabwala ‏@AKinkhabwala · 2m2 minutes ago
Everything Todd Haley has done w/ the Steelers offense and Ben Roethlisberger and no one even wants to interview him? People do grow...


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Post by Legacy User » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:33 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Scunge wrote:Fitchner would be my pick to succeed Haley if he were to leave for a head coaching gig.

Why Fitchner? It seems to me that behind the scenes he was the one that really got this offense rolling. Even Ben and Haley were giving props to Randy in the offseason. And this season with the success of the 2 point conversions, it is none other than Randy Fitchner who got the credit for developing the "seven shots". Both Ben and Haley admitted in interviews that it was Fitchner who spearheaded and developed the whole thing.

So, you have unprecedented success with 2 point conversions, set an NFL record of 8 successful 2 pointers in one season and this was developed and pushed by your QB coach who also was your WR coach for 3 seasons. He has worked as the QB coach, the WR coach and been under both Arians and Haley.

In college, while at Memphis as the OC and QB coach they set school records on offense. He coached DeAngelo Williams while at Memphis.

I wonder what this aggressive, innovative coach could do with Ben and the talent we have on offense. He schemes and frees players open on these two point conversions attempts and that is just anti-Haley. This offense could very well get better if Haley left and Fitchner was promoted.

Amen




Fichtner is the only guy id replace Haley with at this point. But he wouldn't get the job since we was already passed over imo.

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Post by 86n96 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:52 am

GreekSteel wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Scunge wrote:Fitchner would be my pick to succeed Haley if he were to leave for a head coaching gig.

Why Fitchner? It seems to me that behind the scenes he was the one that really got this offense rolling. Even Ben and Haley were giving props to Randy in the offseason. And this season with the success of the 2 point conversions, it is none other than Randy Fitchner who got the credit for developing the "seven shots". Both Ben and Haley admitted in interviews that it was Fitchner who spearheaded and developed the whole thing.

So, you have unprecedented success with 2 point conversions, set an NFL record of 8 successful 2 pointers in one season and this was developed and pushed by your QB coach who also was your WR coach for 3 seasons. He has worked as the QB coach, the WR coach and been under both Arians and Haley.

In college, while at Memphis as the OC and QB coach they set school records on offense. He coached DeAngelo Williams while at Memphis.

I wonder what this aggressive, innovative coach could do with Ben and the talent we have on offense. He schemes and frees players open on these two point conversions attempts and that is just anti-Haley. This offense could very well get better if Haley left and Fitchner was promoted.

Amen




Fichtner is the only guy id replace Haley with at this point. But he wouldn't get the job since we was already passed over imo.

This is pretty commonplace. Good soldiers usually get a shot at some point. Coaching might be the pinnacle of nepotism.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:41 am

GreekSteel wrote:
Aditi Kinkhabwala ‏@AKinkhabwala · 2m2 minutes ago
Everything Todd Haley has done w/ the Steelers offense and Ben Roethlisberger and no one even wants to interview him? People do grow...


probably because the football smart people understand what Haley brought to the party and what he doesn't bring
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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:19 am

I like to see Randy to move up if todd goes. but somtimes a guy is better as a coordinator or line coach than HC

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Post by Legacy User » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:22 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
GreekSteel wrote:
Aditi Kinkhabwala ‏@AKinkhabwala · 2m2 minutes ago
Everything Todd Haley has done w/ the Steelers offense and Ben Roethlisberger and no one even wants to interview him? People do grow...


probably because the football smart people understand what Haley brought to the party and what he doesn't bring


I think his whole routine about his office being bugged by the Chiefs to get dirt on him probably has him permanently blacklisted by many teams no matter what.

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Post by COR-TEN » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:20 pm

the-other-burg wrote:I have a love/hate view of Haley.

Hate, while I am watching the games
Love, when I look at the stat sheet afterwards


I question play calls, as I am sure most fans due. However the end result has been consitently solid. Our offense has entered new territory. I am sure much of that has to do with personnel, but his mission was to keep Ben upright and healthy and for the most part he has succeeded. Ben being considered by many to now be the best in the game is a positive reflection on the offense he runs.
One could say the reason BR is upright and healthy is because of Mike Munchak.
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Post by Legacy User » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:09 pm

His most serious injuries have come under Haleys watch.

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