Steelers vs Carolina Game Coments & Misery

[Texas Black & Gold]

Hell…by next week, the Raiduhs might be in Boise, Idaho!

I remember reading an article years ago suggesting that the Raiders should buy an aircraft carrier as their home stadium. Then they can sail it up and down the coast wherever they feel like playing that day.

Perfect.

The Gypsies of the NFL.

[Orangesteel]

Steelers could very easily lose the final three games. Raiders always play us tough. Ravens will have Javarius Lamerius Lamar back, and Browns are talented.

6-11 very possible.

[Mick]

Steelers could very easily lose the final three games. Raiders always play us tough. Ravens will have Javarius Lamerius Lamar back, and Browns are talented.

6-11 very possible.

a lot of the time after a win people act like they expect to win every future game and after a loss expect to lose every future game.

[bradshaw2ben]

Where can I get the “ We run the South” division champ T shirt? Will SteelerFury be producing these?

https://good-merch.com/products/we-run- ... 2022-shirt

[Sir Lambert]

We're back to 1 game below .500 . Maybe NHALS will remain intact for another year.

[El Kabong]

We're back to 1 game below .500 . Maybe NHALS will remain intact for another year.

2 games, 6-8. They have to win out to keep NHALS in tact.

[steelmann58]

I can’t see this team winning out the Steelers secondary will be tested this week

[Sir Lambert]

We're back to 1 game below .500 . Maybe NHALS will remain intact for another year.

2 games, 6-8. They have to win out to keep NHALS in tact.

6-8 is 1 game below 7-7. 6-8 is 1 game below .500 . 6-8 is 2 games below 8-6.

I hope for NHALS to remain intact this year, but most things end eventually.

[Orangesteel]

Needless to say they will have to go NHALS to the walls these final three contests to keep the standard the standard.

[El Kabong]

We're back to 1 game below .500 . Maybe NHALS will remain intact for another year.

2 games, 6-8. They have to win out to keep NHALS in tact.

6-8 is 1 game below 7-7. 6-8 is 1 game below .500 . 6-8 is 2 games below 8-6.

I hope for NHALS to remain intact this year, but most things end eventually.

But they have to win TWO games to get to 8-8, .500, hence, 2 games below .500.

[Sir Lambert]

Needless to say they will have to go NHALS to the walls these final three contests to keep the standard the standard.

Yes, and they need to avoid ridiculous taunting stuff to win these games. And learn when to not run out of bounds. And learn when to run upfield with the ball.

[Jobu]

We're back to 1 game below .500 . Maybe NHALS will remain intact for another year.

2 games, 6-8. They have to win out to keep NHALS in tact.

6-8 is 1 game below 7-7. 6-8 is 1 game below .500 . 6-8 is 2 games below 8-6.

I hope for NHALS to remain intact this year, but most things end eventually.

So what is 7-8?

[Sir Lambert]

But they have to win TWO games to get to 8-8, .500

Yes. If they go 1-1 (.500) over the next 2 games they will be 7-9 which is 1 game below 8-8. If they are one game better than 1-1 over those next 2 games (2-0) they will be 8-8. 2-0 is 2 games better than 0-2, and 2-0 is not 2 games better than 1-1.

The Steelers could still preserve NHALS, but they can't finish the regular season a full game above .500 . The best they can do is one game better than 8-9.

[Sir Lambert]

So what is 7-8?

Unfortunately that's a half game below .500 . 7-8 is one game below 8-7.

[Jobu]

So what is 7-8?

Unfortunately that's a half game below .500 . 7-8 is one game below 8-7.

We’ve had this conversation before, I believe. You are confusing games over/under .500 with games behind in the standings. They aren’t the same. 6-8 is two games under .500 and 7-8 is one game under.
But if your math works for you, have at it.

[El Kabong]

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But they have to win TWO games to get to 8-8, .500

Yes. If they go 1-1 (.500) over the next 2 games they will be 7-9 which is 1 game below 8-8. If they are one game better than 1-1 over those next 2 games (2-0) they will be 8-8. 2-0 is 2 games better than 0-2, and 2-0 is not 2 games better than 1-1.

The Steelers could still preserve NHALS, but they can't finish the regular season a full game above .500 . The best they can do is one game better than 8-9.

No. 7-9 is not one game below 8-8 because you cannot get to 8-8 from 7-9. It is the same number of games. 7-9 is two games below 9-9, still two games below .500.

If they are one game better than 1-1 over those next 2 games (2-0) they will be 8-8.

Yes. That is why they are two games below .500. It is a count of how many games you have to win to get to .500. They have to win two games to get to .500.

The Steelers can finish one game above .500 at 9-8. That is one win more than 8-8.

[Ice]

I was told there'd be no math.

[Texas Black & Gold]

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But they have to win TWO games to get to 8-8, .500

Yes. If they go 1-1 (.500) over the next 2 games they will be 7-9 which is 1 game below 8-8. If they are one game better than 1-1 over those next 2 games (2-0) they will be 8-8. 2-0 is 2 games better than 0-2, and 2-0 is not 2 games better than 1-1.

The Steelers could still preserve NHALS, but they can't finish the regular season a full game above .500 . The best they can do is one game better than 8-9.

No. 7-9 is not one game below 8-8 because you cannot get to 8-8 from 7-9. It is the same number of games. 7-9 is two games below 9-9, still two games below .500.

If they are one game better than 1-1 over those next 2 games (2-0) they will be 8-8.

Yes. That is why they are two games below .500. It is a count of how many games you have to win to get to .500. They have to win two games to get to .500.

The Steelers can finish one game above .500 at 9-8. That is one win more than 8-8.

Just to be clear. Not just any 2 games. The Steelers must win the next two games to get to .500 for the first time this season. To stay at .500(+) they must win or tie the last game. Any loss will keep them from a .500 season.

[jeemie]

So what is 7-8?

Unfortunately that's a half game below .500 . 7-8 is one game below 8-7.

That’s not how it works.

You don’t lose a loss when you pick up a win.

7-9 is two games under .500. 7-8 is one game under .500.

What happened in the past doesn’t matter. Only what happens in the future.

[Texas Black & Gold]

We're back to 1 game below .500 . Maybe NHALS will remain intact for another year.

There are 4 scenarios for the remaining 3 games that will keep NHALS intact this season.

W, W, W 9-8-0 is the best case
T, W, W 8-8-1
W, T, W 8-8-1
W, W, T 8-8-1

If they get the opportunity, I hope they knock the Ravens out of the Playoffs.

[Steel Bingo]

I'll take wins anyway they can come. Grinding out third downs on offense and stuffing the run on defense, that's fine by me! Wins are a beautiful thing, even if the means aren't all that pretty by some folks standards.

Don't care what anyone else would say, this game was a lot more fun because Pittsburgh won.

[El Kabong]

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Yes. If they go 1-1 (.500) over the next 2 games they will be 7-9 which is 1 game below 8-8. If they are one game better than 1-1 over those next 2 games (2-0) they will be 8-8. 2-0 is 2 games better than 0-2, and 2-0 is not 2 games better than 1-1.

The Steelers could still preserve NHALS, but they can't finish the regular season a full game above .500 . The best they can do is one game better than 8-9.

No. 7-9 is not one game below 8-8 because you cannot get to 8-8 from 7-9. It is the same number of games. 7-9 is two games below 9-9, still two games below .500.

If they are one game better than 1-1 over those next 2 games (2-0) they will be 8-8.

Yes. That is why they are two games below .500. It is a count of how many games you have to win to get to .500. They have to win two games to get to .500.

The Steelers can finish one game above .500 at 9-8. That is one win more than 8-8.

Just to be clear. Not just any 2 games. The Steelers must win the next two games to get to .500 for the first time this season. To stay at .500(+) they must win or tie the last game. Any loss will keep them from a .500 season.

Good point.

[COR-TEN]

I'm late here. I watched highlights but I want a good recap of the game since I couldn't watch it live.

Couple of thoughts after watching highlights.

O line is playing better but too little too late in the season
Offensive play calling is still goddamn offensive. At the same time, guys are getting open/ or schemed open. This is a good thing.
Run game is suddenly now effective
Give warren the fucking ball. Dude is a bowling ball. DB's are afraid of tackling him.
Cam heyward is still a stud.
Highsmith is better than dupree
Defense is still getting burned on long plays.
Pickens is the real deal. Great body control and ball tracking

I'm not even going to touch the pickett v biscuit debate.

I'd love a recap from some of you guys. . .

[K_C_]

I'm not even going to touch the pickett v biscuit debate.

Folks are debating Mitch Trubisky vs Kenny Pickett?

Why?

Pickett will be the starter as long as he's healthy. That isn't even debatable.

Folks can debate a 6 year veteran NFL journeyman is better than rookie Pickett all they want, I guess.

Weird shit.

[bradshaw2ben]

I'm not even going to touch the pickett v biscuit debate.

Folks are debating Mitch Trubisky vs Kenny Pickett?

Why?

Pickett will be the starter as long as he's healthy. That isn't even debatable.

Folks can debate a 6 year veteran NFL journeyman is better than rookie Pickett all they want, I guess.

Weird shit.

I'm sure that's what they said about Zack Wilson & Josh Rosen, too. But Mitch Trubisky means nothing to this franchise... he's not developing into anything, he's not an upgrade of any significance, and who cares about him? I don't.

[K_C_]

I'm not even going to touch the pickett v biscuit debate.

Folks are debating Mitch Trubisky vs Kenny Pickett?

Why?

Pickett will be the starter as long as he's healthy. That isn't even debatable.

Folks can debate a 6 year veteran NFL journeyman is better than rookie Pickett all they want, I guess.

Weird shit.

I'm sure that's what they said about Zack Wilson & Josh Rosen, too. But Mitch Trubisky means nothing to this franchise... he's not developing into anything, he's not an upgrade of any significance, and who cares about him? I don't.

Pickett will be the starter until the Steelers have a viable replacement, in the event he fails.

Trubisky ain't that guy.

I guess if KP plays as utterly horribly as Zach Wilson did for almost all of his second season, then whoever the backup is at that time might get a shot.

If that guy is Trubisky or Rudolph, the Steelers won't look to either of them as the long term answer. If Pickett is as terrible as Zach Wilson, who showed absolutely no signs of life in 2022, then I expect the Steelers would probably look to draft Pickett's replacement in 2024, or dip into free agency to find a QB. Again, I don't believe that guy will be Mitch Trubisky. Definitely not long term.

[Mick]

I'm not even going to touch the pickett v biscuit debate.

Folks are debating Mitch Trubisky vs Kenny Pickett?

Why?

Pickett will be the starter as long as he's healthy. That isn't even debatable.

Folks can debate a 6 year veteran NFL journeyman is better than rookie Pickett all they want, I guess.

Weird shit.

I'm sure that's what they said about Zack Wilson & Josh Rosen, too. But Mitch Trubisky means nothing to this franchise... he's not developing into anything, he's not an upgrade of any significance, and who cares about him? I don't.

Rookie QBR:
Josh Rosen: 24.1
Zach Wilson: 28.2
Trevor Lawrence: 33.5
Jalen Hurts: 33.8
Kenny Pickett: 45.2
Josh Allen: 49.8
Joe Burrow: 48.5

Honestly, pickett’s good enough now to win a lot of football games, albeit in a manner that is sure to make the “reverse yinzer”* fans cancel their seat licenses. People are 100% correct when they say (1) there is 0 guarantee he will improve next year and (2) if he doesn’t improve (or continue improving), we won’t be good enough to do any postseason damage. But that’s generally the case.

* “wins don’t count if there’s more than 30 rushing plays involved”

[bradshaw2ben]

QBR totally rewards risk-averse play, so I’m sure that helps.

I’m really curious to see what KP does in a bad weather game, with a ton of emotion, perhaps the feel of something really important on the line. It’s a nice test.

As I said on the pod, I suspect the second concussion means he will be drilled to get rid of the ball immediately and to not take chances and get blasted. Tough to look great when don’t make any mistakes and get rid of it quick are the mandates.

[Professor Half Wit]

QBR totally rewards risk-averse play, so I’m sure that helps.

I’m really curious to see what KP does in a bad weather game, with a ton of emotion, perhaps the feel of something really important on the line. It’s a nice test.

As I said on the pod, I suspect the second concussion means he will be drilled to get rid of the ball immediately and to not take chances and get blasted. Tough to look great when don’t make any mistakes and get rid of it quick are the mandates.

Why are we sure this is concussion #2?

[bradshaw2ben]

QBR totally rewards risk-averse play, so I’m sure that helps.

I’m really curious to see what KP does in a bad weather game, with a ton of emotion, perhaps the feel of something really important on the line. It’s a nice test.

As I said on the pod, I suspect the second concussion means he will be drilled to get rid of the ball immediately and to not take chances and get blasted. Tough to look great when don’t make any mistakes and get rid of it quick are the mandates.

Why are we sure this is concussion #2?

Even if it was a 0 scale concussion, the fact that he failed the testing AND it took more than a week to clear him almost surely means *they* think he had 2 and are acting accordingly.

Like, back in the day, we would never have counted a 0-tier concussion as a concussion, but the scienece is a bit different now and it definitely makes one at more risk going forward. I was even wondering if he might go to the Freiermuth preventative helmet.