Any Tomlin defenders left?

[Legacy User]

Definite props to Tomlin- and he actually did have time to call timeout after the wildcat play, so even more props- I would have done something more quick-hitting like a sneak or a quick handoff to Bell (and a handoff to Bell IS quicker than a direct snap- for that poster that said otherwise- because Bell starts going forward at the snap to the QB. On a direct snap, he has to wait to receive the ball before he can start moving).

It worked...we won...props to Tomlin.

PS Wonder what he would have done had Bell failed to get in and there was 1-2 seconds left? Given what others have said about the state of our defense in that heat, I wouldn't have minded if he chose to go for it again.

Even though a handoff would have saved a second, I think the wildcat snap was a better choice. If you're going to give your best player one play to win the game, you pick a play that fits his best attributes. For Bell, that means getting him the ball deep enough in the backfield that he can use his vision to pick his way through the chaos.

[the-other-burg]

I criticize Tomlin when he's a bonehead, and I will praise him when he's right. Balls-ass call at the end of that game. And he may have actually learned a lesson from last week - give the damn ball to your Horse!

[Orangesteel]

I was screaming at the TV the whole last drive "play for the win play for the win!"

I'm glad Tomlin got that. Now, I don't know how much of his thinking went into all of the plays that got us to the 6 inch line, but he made the call to go for the win at the end and it was a ballsy, brilliant call.

As B2B said, no way is that team winning in OT. Mike T saw and opportunity and capitalized. Something he hasn't done much of his whole career but he sure as hell did it last night. Props.

[Steelcody7]

I criticize Tomlin when he's a bonehead, and I will praise him when he's right. Balls-ass call at the end of that game. And he may have actually learned a lesson from last week - give the damn ball to your Horse!

If you paid any attention AT ALL, Tomlin said last week in an interview with Stephen A. Smith that he trusts his coordinators. He added that he has veto power, but trusts his coaches. Haley called both stupid plays last week, but as Tomlin said the missed FG's changed everything. Last night Ben called the TD pass play to Wheaton, Tomlin demanded that Bell have the ball on the game winning play.

Todd Haley adds nothing.

[Legacy User]

I totally supported the decision to go for the win at the end... You've got your #3 QB and your #4 Kicker and your D has been on the field for like 90% of the second half... You're not winning OT.

At this rate, by the time the snow starts falling Heyward and Tuitt are going to be rung out dishrags. One could easily get injured pretty bad if they don't get some wave players in there that can play some quality snaps. Either Walton has to grow up fast or I can see Keisel coming back for the back nine.

[Jobu]

Definite props to Tomlin- and he actually did have time to call timeout after the wildcat play, so even more props- I would have done something more quick-hitting like a sneak or a quick handoff to Bell (and a handoff to Bell IS quicker than a direct snap- for that poster that said otherwise- because Bell starts going forward at the snap to the QB. On a direct snap, he has to wait to receive the ball before he can start moving).

It worked...we won...props to Tomlin.

PS Wonder what he would have done had Bell failed to get in and there was 1-2 seconds left? Given what others have said about the state of our defense in that heat, I wouldn't have minded if he chose to go for it again.

It was me, and you are wrong! But you keep beating that gong...its what you do best, and why your posts are so gosh darn entertaining.

[the-other-burg]

I criticize Tomlin when he's a bonehead, and I will praise him when he's right. Balls-ass call at the end of that game. And he may have actually learned a lesson from last week - give the damn ball to your Horse!

If you paid any attention AT ALL, Tomlin said last week in an interview with Stephen A. Smith that he trusts his coordinators. He added that he has veto power, but trusts his coaches. Haley called both stupid plays last week, but as Tomlin said the missed FG's changed everything. Last night Ben called the TD pass play to Wheaton, Tomlin demanded that Bell have the ball on the game winning play.

Todd Haley adds nothing.

Right - and Tomlin probably made damn sure it didn't happen again this week.

[the-other-burg]

I criticize Tomlin when he's a bonehead, and I will praise him when he's right. Balls-ass call at the end of that game. And he may have actually learned a lesson from last week - give the damn ball to your Horse!

If you paid any attention AT ALL, Tomlin said last week in an interview with Stephen A. Smith that he trusts his coordinators. He added that he has veto power, but trusts his coaches. Haley called both stupid plays last week, but as Tomlin said the missed FG's changed everything. Last night Ben called the TD pass play to Wheaton, Tomlin demanded that Bell have the ball on the game winning play.

Todd Haley adds nothing.

I pay plenty of attention.

He's the fucking coach, and the fucking coach probably made DAMN sure it didn't happen again this week. But that same fucking coach should have made damn sure it didn't happen last week.

[Obviously]

If you paid any attention AT ALL, Tomlin said last week in an interview with Stephen A. Smith that he trusts his coordinators. He added that he has veto power, but trusts his coaches. Haley called both stupid plays last week, but as Tomlin said the missed FG's changed everything. Last night Ben called the TD pass play to Wheaton, Tomlin demanded that Bell have the ball on the game winning play.

Todd Haley adds nothing.

I pay plenty of attention.

He's the fucking coach, and the fucking coach probably made DAMN sure it didn't happen again this week. But that same fucking coach should have made damn sure it didn't happen last week.

Don't mind Cody, burg. He's a little troll who self-admittedly loves to piss people off.

Steelcody36 adds nothing.

[Obviously]

Bump.

[Gonzo]

I actually stopped by to say I will give credit where it's due
They did a good job today
And it's actually starting to look like getting rid of Lebeau was a needed move

[Legacy User]

Yes. There still Tomlin defenders left.

[Legacy User]

Yes. There still Tomlin defenders left.

Yes, there are. They're not that bright, but they're there...

[Legacy User]

Yes. There still Tomlin defenders left.

Yes, there are. They're not that bright, but they're there...

4-2

[JackLambert58]

I actually stopped by to say I will give credit where it's due
They did a good job today
And it's actually starting to look like getting rid of Lebeau was a needed move

[Obviously]

Well make me very apologetic today then...

[Kodiak]

[Legacy User]

Lol

[Steelcody7]

5-1 with a competent kicker, without Ben 3-0.

[Havoc]

Props to Tomlin for this team at 4-2 and right in the middle of it.

And this team appears to be on the rise.

[bradshaw2ben]

Yes. There still Tomlin defenders left.

Yes, there are. They're not that bright, but they're there...

4-2

4-2 and think about all the guys who have missed games or got hurt today. 4 QBs, 4 PKs, 2 LTs, 4 safeties, 3 ILBs, 4 diff WR starters, 4 different CBs started, 2 RBs started. 4-2 with that pretty good... SOMEBODY is responsible for that, ultimately.

At least he has a 'normal" name, Ron.

[JackLambert58]

At least he has a 'normal" name, Ron.

Ron Mexico?

[StillerInCT]

You have to give credit where credit is due. Tomlin has this team at 4-2 while dealing with quite a bit of adversity. The defense, our achilles heal entering this season, is playing extremely hard and trending up. Get Ben back next week hopefully and you're staring at one of the 3 best teams in the AFC.

Also have to give a lot of credit to Butler. We're giving up yards, but we're getting TOs and stopping teams from scoring. We beat one of the highest scoring offenses in the league with Robert Golden starting in the secondary. That's all you need to know.

[Legacy User]

I'll tell you what, I'm all aboard the Butler train for sure. Holy smokes has that man got the D hunting bear.

55 rushing yards allowed against 'Zona.

[jeemie]

You have to give credit where credit is due. Tomlin has this team at 4-2 while dealing with quite a bit of adversity. The defense, our achilles heal entering this season, is playing extremely hard and trending up. Get Ben back next week hopefully and you're staring at one of the 3 best teams in the AFC.

Also have to give a lot of credit to Butler. We're giving up yards, but we're getting TOs and stopping teams from scoring. We beat one of the highest scoring offenses in the league with Robert Golden starting in the secondary. That's all you need to know.

I try and balance it off by giving Tomlin credit where credit is due, and by all accounts, he's had a lot of input working with Butler on this new D, so kudos to Tomlin for that, and for being at 4-2 with what we have had to deal with.

But dammit, his sub-optimal decision-making in other areas does just bug the shit out of me, so I can't help commenting on them.

[COR-TEN]

I thought this thread was silly.

After hearing Tomlin say he wouldn't have pulled Vick if it weren't for the "hamstring," it's not so silly.

I wonder if he's really that dense. Did he tell Vick to run and feign an injury? I did see him say something to Vick right after the run, as Vick made an attempt to get to the huddle, and that's when Vick returned to the bench. Is saying he wouldn't have benched Vick a Cover Your Ass moment?

And no. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

[FortyThree]

Yes. There still Tomlin defenders left.

Yes, there are. They're not that bright, but they're there...

I don't think you calling someone "not that bright" will coheres anyone into changing their mind about Tomlin.

You need to develop a better repoire with people if you want to be persuasive.

[FortyThree]

I thought this thread was silly.

After hearing Tomlin say he wouldn't have pulled Vick if it weren't for the "hamstring," it's not so silly.

I wonder if he's really that dense. Did he tell Vick to run and feign an injury? I did see him say something to Vick right after the run, as Vick made an attempt to get to the huddle, and that's when Vick returned to the bench. Is saying he wouldn't have benched Vick a Cover Your Ass moment?

And no. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

I don't put much stock into what Tomlin says to the media.

My take is that he respects Vick and wouldn't tell us if he was planning on pulling him either way.

[Legacy User]

I thought this thread was silly.

After hearing Tomlin say he wouldn't have pulled Vick if it weren't for the "hamstring," it's not so silly.

I wonder if he's really that dense. Did he tell Vick to run and feign an injury? I did see him say something to Vick right after the run, as Vick made an attempt to get to the huddle, and that's when Vick returned to the bench. Is saying he wouldn't have benched Vick a Cover Your Ass moment?

And no. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

I don't put much stock into what Tomlin says to the media.

My take is that he respects Vick and wouldn't tell us if he was planning on pulling him either way.

I can virtually guarantee that if they start Landry Jones against the Chiefs, Tomlin will mention Vick's (and Ben's) health as a determining factor. People are really kind of ridiculous in their expectations for Tomlin to belittle his players in the media.

[FortyThree]

I thought this thread was silly.

After hearing Tomlin say he wouldn't have pulled Vick if it weren't for the "hamstring," it's not so silly.

I wonder if he's really that dense. Did he tell Vick to run and feign an injury? I did see him say something to Vick right after the run, as Vick made an attempt to get to the huddle, and that's when Vick returned to the bench. Is saying he wouldn't have benched Vick a Cover Your Ass moment?

And no. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

I don't put much stock into what Tomlin says to the media.

My take is that he respects Vick and wouldn't tell us if he was planning on pulling him either way.

I can virtually guarantee that if they start Landry Jones against the Chiefs, Tomlin will mention Vick's (and Ben's) health as a determining factor. People are really kind of ridiculous in their expectations for Tomlin to belittle his players in the media.

Yep. No coach in the NFL is ever going to say "I'm benching ________ because he fucking sucks."