Tomlin Tuesday Presser

[bradshaw2ben]

I like that the supposed medical expert and MD doesn't know what a compound fracture is.

[Steelafan77]

Ike had a plate surgically implanted in his arm. What exactly are the details of that? A Plate? I kinda expected a pin but...

The details are ... read the link in the 1st page from Steeler Depot.

Meh... I'll pass.....

[jeemie]

It was relevant because of the current issues in the NFL.

Tomlin completely whiffed on the question too.

I guess it's relevant if someone really believes the NFL is going to start suspending guys seven years after the fact.

Maybe they can ask about Jerome Bettis getting a beej at St. Vincent next Tuesday.

It's relevant because Art Rooney is the co-leader of the investigation as to how seriously the NFL took domestic violence issues.

Yes- it happened seven years ago, and it's kinda unfair to be brought up now, but, as they say in politics, it's "bad optics".

The NFL turned this into a shitshow. I personally think the whole thing is sound and fury, but this is the path the NFL chose to go down, so they are going to suffer the consequences for it.

[jebrick]

It was relevant because of the current issues in the NFL.

Tomlin completely whiffed on the question too.

I guess it's relevant if someone really believes the NFL is going to start suspending guys seven years after the fact.

Maybe they can ask about Jerome Bettis getting a beej at St. Vincent next Tuesday.

It's relevant because Art Rooney is the co-leader of the investigation as to how seriously the NFL took domestic violence issues.

Yes- it happened seven years ago, and it's kinda unfair to be brought up now, but, as they say in politics, it's "bad optics".

The NFL turned this into a shitshow. I personally think the whole thing is sound and fury, but this is the path the NFL chose to go down, so they are going to suffer the consequences for it.

Good article on BSPN by Gregg Eastbrook on why the NFL is getting all this grief. Basically, they used up all of their goodwill.

[jeemie]

Good article on BSPN by Gregg Eastbrook on why the NFL is getting all this grief. Basically, they used up all of their goodwill.

I agree with both premises.

The NFL has no goodwill, and the NFL is receiving a lot of misdirected anger.

But because owners are arrogant pricks who have long stopped trying to establish a long-term fanbase but instead are going for maximum profit now...I don't weep for them.

[Legacy User]

My early thoughts are Ike played his last snap with the Steelers and probably in the NFL

I 100% disagree with you

what was said that makes you think that , IC?

He's just at age where shit hurts more and takes longer to heal. Not to mention it takes longer to get your legs back and shake off 10 weeks worth of rust at that age too.

Also, my opinion is this was his last year anyhow. I think Cortez Allen and Bill Gay can be capable starters.

I'm an Ike fan, always have been. I just think he punched his ticket. He may get some PT later in the year, just not hanging my hat on it

[FortyThree]

It was relevant because of the current issues in the NFL.

Tomlin completely whiffed on the question too.

I just hope the next time an ESPN reporter asks one of these questions to any NFL personnel, they turn the tables and asks about how they feel working for an organization that employs a guy in Ray Lewis who was convicted of obstructing justice in a double murder trial. Or Jay Mariotti being arrested for domestic violence. Or Chris Berman, Erik Kusileas, Sean Salisbury and Mike Tirico all sexually harrassing co-workers. Or Stewart Scott having an affair with a co-worker. Or Doug Gotleib being a convicted credit card thief.

An excellent point. The Ray Lewis thing is definitely one ESPN should answer. But they're not real journalists anyway.

Tomlin answer they question just fine. He should have came firing back stronger at the person asking the dumb question though.

He really didn't though. He kinda, sorta blamed Harrison's girlfriend for the issue. Then again his response was nothing compared to the Chairman of the entire fucking franchise basically applauding Harrison for hitting her.

[Legacy User]

forty three is in the media. He thinks everyone owes him an answer

Journalism is nothing more than shock value. If you dig up a video of James Harrison hitting his ex you'll get the same response. As it stands, a clear picture isn't painted so its a "he said she said" thing

Ray Lewis served his time in my book and paid for his sins. No reason to bring it back up. When Ray Rice serves his time, I'll feel the same way

[FortyThree]

Good article on BSPN by Gregg Eastbrook

This is the first time in history anyone has said this.

[FortyThree]

forty three is in the media. He thinks everyone owes him an answer

Was.

I don't think anyone owes me anything. But the reporters who go there have jobs to do and those jobs involve writing shit about football, the business of the NFL, etc. They aren't owed an answer any more than you or me but if there's a media availability then the media have the right to ask the questions they see fit.

Sometimes questions are really fucking stupid. See any question John Shumway ever asked anyone. Sometimes, like the question about Harrison, it's relevant to a much broader issue than the on-field product.

[Legacy User]

forty three is in the media. He thinks everyone owes him an answer

Was.

I don't think anyone owes me anything. But the reporters who go there have jobs to do and those jobs involve writing shit about football, the business of the NFL, etc. They aren't owed an answer any more than you or me but if there's a media availability then the media have the right to ask the questions they see fit.

Sometimes questions are really fucking stupid. See any question John Shumway ever asked anyone. Sometimes, like the question about Harrison, it's relevant to a much broader issue than the on-field product.

As you stated, having the right to ask a question isn't the same as being owed an answer. So why judge on the answers they give? They obviously don't think its any of their business or aren't going to get trapped behind a statement.

They only go to that podium because they're contractually obligated. Not because any of those reporters are worth a rats ass

[jeemie]

An excellent point. The Ray Lewis thing is definitely one ESPN should answer. But they're not real journalists anyway.

I loved Ray Lewis' comments on ESPN last night as to how there are "some things you can cover up, and some things you can't".

That was priceless.

I could hear ESPN execs' brains explode up in Bristol all the way down here in Philadelphia.

[955876]

Not to mention it takes longer to get your legs back

He broke his arm not his leg.

No reason he can't be doing lots of running while his wing heals.

[jeemie]

As you stated, having the right to ask a question isn't the same as being owed an answer. So why judge on the answers they give? They obviously don't think its any of their business or aren't going to get trapped behind a statement.

They only go to that podium because they're contractually obligated. Not because any of those reporters are worth a rats ass

We can't judge the answers because we aren't owed any answers?

What kind of logic is that.

Forty Three wasn't claiming Tomlin and Rooney owed the press any answers. He said the answers they gave were shit and, again, as they say in politics, really bad optics.

They were terrible answers, and indeed, could be read as pretty much blaming Harrison's girlfriend for the entire incident.

[Legacy User]

Good article on BSPN by Gregg Eastbrook

This is the first time in history anyone has said this.

Greggggggggggggggggggggg.

[COR-TEN]

He really didn't though. He kinda, sorta blamed Harrison's girlfriend for the issue. Then again his response was nothing compared to the Chairman of the entire fucking franchise basically applauding Harrison for hitting her.

I didn't get that impression at all. It seems he said Harrison has evolved and matured, and his relationship with his "woman" has done the same. They are after all, still together I think.

[Legacy User]

As you stated, having the right to ask a question isn't the same as being owed an answer. So why judge on the answers they give? They obviously don't think its any of their business or aren't going to get trapped behind a statement.

They only go to that podium because they're contractually obligated. Not because any of those reporters are worth a rats ass

We can't judge the answers because we aren't owed any answers?

What kind of logic is that.

Forty Three wasn't claiming Tomlin and Rooney owed the press any answers. He said the answers they gave were shit and, again, as they say in politics, really bad optics.

They were terrible answers, and indeed, could be read as pretty much blaming Harrison's girlfriend for the entire incident.

why judge an answer when someone is only giving you half truths because you're a schmuck?

Like this one

[Nick79]

As you stated, having the right to ask a question isn't the same as being owed an answer. So why judge on the answers they give? They obviously don't think its any of their business or aren't going to get trapped behind a statement.

They only go to that podium because they're contractually obligated. Not because any of those reporters are worth a rats ass

We can't judge the answers because we aren't owed any answers?

What kind of logic is that.

Forty Three wasn't claiming Tomlin and Rooney owed the press any answers. He said the answers they gave were shit and, again, as they say in politics, really bad optics.

They were terrible answers, and indeed, could be read as pretty much blaming Harrison's girlfriend for the entire incident.

why judge an answer when someone is only giving you half truths because you're a schmuck?

Like this one

A "schmuck"? Honestly, can't you refrain from name calling? Is it that hard to be polite with your fellow Steelers fans?

[Legacy User]

A "schmuck"? Honestly, can't you refrain from name calling? Is it that hard to be polite with your fellow Steelers fans?

[Nick79]

A "schmuck"? Honestly, can't you refrain from name calling? Is it that hard to be polite with your fellow Steelers fans?

Is that what you get when you breed Dr. Phil with the Michelin man?

[Fury]

Can we knock this stupid bullshit off? Who gives a fuck?

[Obviously]

Can we knock this stupid bullshit off? Who gives a fuck?

[Nick79]

Can we knock this stupid bullshit off? Who gives a fuck?

OK, I totally agree. Let's see if this stops anyone else, but I'm in.

[Old School Steeler]

An excellent point. The Ray Lewis thing is definitely one ESPN should answer. But they're not real journalists anyway.

I loved Ray Lewis' comments on ESPN last night as to how there are "some things you can cover up, and some things you can't".

That was priceless.

I could hear ESPN execs' brains explode up in Bristol all the way down here in Philadelphia.

Not as loud as the Universal Harry Potter explosions over the release of Emma's porn shots.

[jeemie]

An excellent point. The Ray Lewis thing is definitely one ESPN should answer. But they're not real journalists anyway.

I loved Ray Lewis' comments on ESPN last night as to how there are "some things you can cover up, and some things you can't".

That was priceless.

I could hear ESPN execs' brains explode up in Bristol all the way down here in Philadelphia.

Not as loud as the Universal Harry Potter explosions over the release of Emma's porn shots.

They've been released?

I thought that was just a threat.

PS just checked- they are launching...something...in 18 minutes.

[Gonzo]

Good article on BSPN by Gregg Eastbrook on why the NFL is getting all this grief. Basically, they used up all of their goodwill.

I agree with both premises.

The NFL has no goodwill, and the NFL is receiving a lot of misdirected anger.

But because owners are arrogant pricks who have long stopped trying to establish a long-term fanbase but instead are going for maximum profit now...I don't weep for them.

I think Easterbrook is still exaggerating the relevance or importance of anything some NFL dope does as it related to general social issues.
Although, I do agree about the NFL pissing away Goodwill (but for different reasons) and that is how Roger has failed and why I do not like the comments that -- well he has increased profits. He is a beneficiary of past actions and he and his taskmasters are screwing ir up IMHO. I like the below article as well as the Deadspin piece more than Easterbrooks

http://thefieldsofgreen.com/2014/09/03/ ... 0bgEXhg%3D

[FortyThree]

forty three is in the media. He thinks everyone owes him an answer

Was.

I don't think anyone owes me anything. But the reporters who go there have jobs to do and those jobs involve writing shit about football, the business of the NFL, etc. They aren't owed an answer any more than you or me but if there's a media availability then the media have the right to ask the questions they see fit.

Sometimes questions are really fucking stupid. See any question John Shumway ever asked anyone. Sometimes, like the question about Harrison, it's relevant to a much broader issue than the on-field product.

As you stated, having the right to ask a question isn't the same as being owed an answer. So why judge on the answers they give? They obviously don't think its any of their business or aren't going to get trapped behind a statement.

They only go to that podium because they're contractually obligated. Not because any of those reporters are worth a rats ass

You judge on the answer they give because their answer is what they want to be judged on. Whatever a player, coach, owner, etc. says to the media is clearly something they want to get out there so why should we not judge them on it?

[Legacy User]

You judge on the answer they give because their answer is what they want to be judged on. Whatever a player, coach, owner, etc. says to the media is clearly something they want to get out there so why should we not judge them on it?

Is that even serious? You think they want to answer all those questions so some half assed journalism major can fish for clicks?

The only answers they probably want to give is to counter all the false journalism that takes place

[Legacy User]

But the problem is, those same journalists are a necessity to them. The league makes money keeping a fan based reeled in. No better way to do that than get them the information they want ASAP.

A necessary evil

[FortyThree]

You judge on the answer they give because their answer is what they want to be judged on. Whatever a player, coach, owner, etc. says to the media is clearly something they want to get out there so why should we not judge them on it?

Is that even serious? You think they want to answer all those questions so some half assed journalism major can fish for clicks?

The only answers they probably want to give is to counter all the false journalism that takes place

It doesn't matter if they want to or not. They still have an obligation to talk to the media. So when they know they're talking to the media they should only say things they want to get out. Sports media is typically nothing but PR. So they should use it like PR and say only what they want getting out. If they don't, then that's their problem, not the media's.

I get that you hate the media but your act is tiresome. You are wrong in this instance, and that's okay.