Poll: Should Mike Tomlin remain head coach of the Steelers

[Orangesteel]

Because 8-8 is the standard, goddamn it

[Obviously]

I'm voting yes again.

Why? You really think this clown will figure this out? IMO, he one of the main reasons why the Steelers are mediocre at best.

[Legacy User]

I'm voting yes again.

Why? You really think this clown will figure this out? IMO, he one of the main reasons why the Steelers are mediocre at best.

Well, they clearly have the most talented roster in the league so anything short of 19-0 should be a huge disappointment.

[Obviously]

I'm voting yes again.

Why? You really think this clown will figure this out? IMO, he one of the main reasons why the Steelers are mediocre at best.

Well, they clearly have the most talented roster in the league so anything short of 19-0 should be a huge disappointment.

Yep, because that's what everyone here believes.

How about the question though?

[lifelongsteel]

This roster is good enough this year and has been the past two years to be a 9-11 win team. A third straight year of missing the playoffs with a 9-11 win roster is enough to warrant a change.

If you want to make the argument that we don't have an 9-11 win roster, then you have to ask why not. What would be Tomlin's answer for that?

[K_C_]

I'm voting yes again.

Why? You really think this clown will figure this out? IMO, he one of the main reasons why the Steelers are mediocre at best.

Well, they clearly have the most talented roster in the league so anything short of 19-0 should be a huge disappointment.

Sweet straw man.

[Legacy User]

I'm voting yes again.

I'm voting yes. But a quick side note....... If he is fired what are the odds that Haley is our new HC? I mean Ben's settled down since he got here, maybe he can do the same for the rest of the team......

[Legacy User]

No

[zeke5123]

Tomlin continues to get the talent excuse. But isn't part of his job -- a big part of his job -- to develop talent?

[Legacy User]

Put me down for he should have never been hired in the first place.

[Obviously]

I'm voting yes again.

I'm voting yes. But a quick side note....... If he is fired what are the odds that Haley is our new HC? I mean Ben's settled down since he got here, maybe he can do the same for the rest of the team......

It would really be a stupid move by the Rooneys. It won't happen. It isn't lost on the Rooneys that the majority of Steeler Nation despises Haley.

[Legacy User]

Tomlin basically wrecked the roster when he picked Ziggy Hood instead of Laurinaitis. If Laurinaitis was selected the ILB would had been settled for years after Potsie retired. So many other positions could had been addressed. It was the key domino that fell. For example, all other things being equal, Kelvin Benjamin would had been the first pick this year. Instead they drafted a mack and the plan is square pegging round holing Timmons as the block shedding buck.

As the dog would say about horseflesh, Tomlin aint a great picker. As Tomlin would say about horseflesh. His number one job is player evaluation. IMO he sucks at his number one job and it shows because the roster is a clusterfuck of ill fitted parts. The team still doesn't have green dot, block shedding buck.

[Gonzo]

No

[Legacy User]

Ziggy Hood was a pretty good college player

The other obvious option was Derek Sherrod, no thanks

[steelydan]

Yes obviously

[Steeldrama]

Ziggy Hood was a pretty good college player

The other obvious option was Derek Sherrod, no thanks

Sherrod was taken by the Packers after the Steelers selected my fellow Suwaneeian Cam heyward. I only remember because B2B pitched a hissy and a half when the steelers wisely passed.

[Legacy User]

Ziggy Hood was a pretty good college player

The other obvious option was Derek Sherrod, no thanks

Sherrod was taken by the Packers after the Steelers selected my fellow Suwaneeian Cam heyward. I only remember because B2B pitched a hissy and a half when the steelers wisely passed.

My bad, didn't look it up

Maybe that was the one I liked Max Unger in

[Steeldrama]

Most liked Ebon Britton but you sir wisely selected Unger back when you were in charge of the Steelers in the oh so fun SteelerFury mock draft

[Legacy User]

Most liked Ebon Britton but you sir wisely selected Unger back when you were in charge of the Steelers in the oh so fun SteelerFury mock draft

Still wasn't a Britton fan, had Unger and Jairus Byrd in my Steeler mock

You nailed Cam Heyward pick

[Legacy User]

I don't think we will fire him, but I think we should. I question his ability to truly lead a team. He's looking like another Barry Switzer at this point.

He needs strong coordinators. Lebeau may be the scapegoat after this season if we don't make the playoffs again. But we'll probably just promote Lebeau's lackey Butler and be even worse.

You are. Insulting Barry Switzer. He had a much more difficult situation. Team directly come off a Superbowl win meddling owner. Declining team .. That was ripped of talent by the the new FA not to mention the national exposure and pressure of being the cowboys coach.

Tomlin has faced none of this except the decline of SB talent.

[Kodiak]

Sustained winning is the mark of a good/great coach. Belicheat, for example, hasn't been very good at drafting and FA but he has a great system, is a great teacher and tactician - which with Brady is enough. Granted, they haven't won a SB in 10 years, but they have been to a couple more.

Plenty of competent coaches in the NFL that can win with talent and good assistants. That's Tomlin. I don't see a lot of risk in moving on to someone else, trying to find a good/great coach for the next 20 years.

Stability is the way to go and it's a good approach, but that doesn't mean keeping a mediocre guy for 10+ years. He's on borrowed time in my book, and would have to earn one more year. Soft schedule and out-of-the-gate at 2-2...hard for me to envision a scenario now where PIT misses the playoffs and Tomlin earns one more year. Only scenario I can think of would be an 8-8 or 9-7 team that is very inconsistent but shows signs of being a great team when the young guys mature, and that inconsistency wouldn't' be due to slop and undisciplined football.

[Legacy User]

Anyone who even remotely think tomlin will be dismissed after this season even if he went 5-11 is insane and wrong. I would be willing to beat anything he has zero chance of being fired unless he is caught in some scandal.

No chance you day dreamers

[Kodiak]

Anyone who even remotely think tomlin will be dismissed after this season even if he went 5-11 is insane and wrong. I would be willing to beat anything he has zero chance of being fired unless he is caught in some scandal.

No chance you day dreamers

That may be very true, but IMO EMR has demonstrated he doesn't have quite the same patience as his pa and grandpa.

[Obviously]

Anyone who even remotely think tomlin will be dismissed after this season even if he went 5-11 is insane and wrong. I would be willing to beat anything he has zero chance of being fired unless he is caught in some scandal.

No chance you day dreamers

I know you're a simpleton, but even a simpleton should be able to figure out that the OP was taking a poll. Most everyone here knows Tomlin's here for a while.

[K_C_]

Anyone who even remotely think tomlin will be dismissed after this season even if he went 5-11 is insane and wrong. I would be willing to beat anything he has zero chance of being fired unless he is caught in some scandal.

No chance you day dreamers

I don't think the dumbfuck will be fired after this year.

But if he is 8-8, worse than that or even a little better with no playoffs, dumbfuck's seat will be ON FIRE.

Even a cunt like Art II will see the writing on the wall if this team keeps on headed down the shitter.

[Legacy User]

Ziggy Hood was a pretty good college player

The other obvious option was Derek Sherrod, no thanks

What? You disagree with the defensive coordinator Dick Lebeau who told James Laurinaitis if he was there that he would be a Steeler? Never disagree with the staff.

So to Dick Lebeau the obvious choice was James Laurinaitis. Not the greatest of all time but would had been penciled in for ten years. With that allowing the team to fill other positions as the veterans finished out there contracts. Instead the team has been like the Flying Dutchman with the albatross of Ziggy Hood around its neck. Ok I exaggerate but selecting Hood created a liability at two positions on defense. If things would had turned out differently Spence Shaz Silvester etc could had very well been CBs and OLBs instead. Big effn whiff. Especially since Lebeau had him in his sights.

[tbsteel]

As much criticism as I think Tomlin deserves, can anyone think of any other coach in NFL history that coached with the same team for 8 years, never had a losing record, and was canned? I'm guessing zero. Unless we go 4-12 this year, which is impossible given we've got Ben and a weak ass schedule, there's no way he's gone after this year IMO.

[Kodiak]

As much criticism as I think Tomlin deserves, can anyone think of any other coach in NFL history that coached with the same team for 8 years, never had a losing record, and was canned? I'm guessing zero. Unless we go 4-12 this year, which is impossible given we've got Ben and a weak ass schedule, there's no way he's gone after this year IMO.

How many coaches inherited an experienced, young future-HOFer at QB? Just look at Belicheat pre-Brady. Look a Mariucci post-Young.

I get what you're saying. I don't think EMR is unaware of what a QB like Ben means to a team, and I don't think missing the playoffs 3 straight years with a franchise QB is going to be remotely acceptable. Even Dan Rooney told Cowher in 2005 that it was "time to win a championship", because he knew Cowher had the QB to finally do it.