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Re: Pro Day results/Virtual Meetings

Post by DP39 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:52 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:39 pm
Jerry O running Nick Bolton’s workout at Missouri Pro Day
Without Tombert there we can't draft him in the 1st...right? I don't see him as a DeCastro drop into your lap type of player?



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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:56 pm

DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:52 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:39 pm
Jerry O running Nick Bolton’s workout at Missouri Pro Day
Without Tombert there we can't draft him in the 1st...right? I don't see him as a DeCastro drop into your lap type of player?
Bolton...meh.
2nd or 3rd, would be ok I guess...ILB consolation prize.

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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:48 pm

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/03/alaba ... f-pro-day/

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Post by Pabst » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:54 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:39 pm
Jerry O running Nick Bolton’s workout at Missouri Pro Day

Bolton is a tough one. The pick would be a reach at 24, but it's doubtful that he drops to 55.

As the boards resident Mizzou fan, I like the player, but I'd be upset taking him in the 1st. 2nd round? Hell yes.

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Post by DP39 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:33 pm

Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:54 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:39 pm
Jerry O running Nick Bolton’s workout at Missouri Pro Day

Bolton is a tough one. The pick would be a reach at 24, but it's doubtful that he drops to 55.

As the boards resident Mizzou fan, I like the player, but I'd be upset taking him in the 1st. 2nd round? Hell yes.
Yeah, odds are pretty good he doesn't make it to our 2nd pick. Especially considering he's widely viewed as the top ILB prospect, and probably by a whole round.

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Post by Mick » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:43 pm

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Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:38 pm
CB Asante Samuel Jr
HT 5101
WT 180
Hand 8 7/8
Arm 30 1/8
Wing 72 1/4
40-yd 4.45/4.52
VJ 35.0
BJ 10-4
SS 4.13
3C 6.95
BP 12x
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NFL trend moving more toward position-less hybrid defenders and
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Hamsah Nasirildeen fits that mold. Didn’t run 40-yd or BJ due to hamstring injury during training. NFL scout says he gutted thru” today’s workout.

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9 3/4
34 1/2
81 7/8Eyes
32.0
4.31
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17 reps
Tomlin, Colbert and Dunbar at FSU pro day
Marvin Wilson etc
Asante Samuel has to be the reason for a full Tombert.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:10 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:43 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:38 pm
CB Asante Samuel Jr
HT 5101
WT 180
Hand 8 7/8
Arm 30 1/8
Wing 72 1/4
40-yd 4.45/4.52
VJ 35.0
BJ 10-4
SS 4.13
3C 6.95
BP 12x
:
JimNagy_SB
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NFL trend moving more toward position-less hybrid defenders and
@FSUFootball
Hamsah Nasirildeen fits that mold. Didn’t run 40-yd or BJ due to hamstring injury during training. NFL scout says he gutted thru” today’s workout.

6032
215
9 3/4
34 1/2
81 7/8Eyes
32.0
4.31
7.05
17 reps
Tomlin, Colbert and Dunbar at FSU pro day
Marvin Wilson etc
Asante Samuel has to be the reason for a full Tombert.
Never go full Tombert! :mrgreen:



(Sorry Mick...you teed that one up. :lol:)

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:31 am

DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:52 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:39 pm
Jerry O running Nick Bolton’s workout at Missouri Pro Day
Without Tombert there we can't draft him in the 1st...right? I don't see him as a DeCastro drop into your lap type of player?
Nick Bolton isn't a 1st rounder. I can think of at least 4 Off-ball LBs I'd take before him without having to think about it. He's an even less likely running mate for Bush--- he's a bit undersized, also. Doesn't really fill in the gaps around Bush and Spillane.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:35 am

DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:33 pm
Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:54 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:39 pm
Jerry O running Nick Bolton’s workout at Missouri Pro Day

Bolton is a tough one. The pick would be a reach at 24, but it's doubtful that he drops to 55.

As the boards resident Mizzou fan, I like the player, but I'd be upset taking him in the 1st. 2nd round? Hell yes.
Yeah, odds are pretty good he doesn't make it to our 2nd pick. Especially considering he's widely viewed as the top ILB prospect, and probably by a whole round.
Widely viewed by whom? He's not close to the top ILB prospect, even in the mainstream. JOK, Parsons, Collins, Davis, Surratt, Wallow-- I have seen ALL of them listed as the top ILB.

Bolton is 33rd on the consensus board right now, LB4.
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:34 am

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OL Spencer Brown with all-timer shuttles 4.39 SS & 6.99 3-cone—rare bend for 6082 and 311 lbs. Ran 4.94/4.96 40-yd on NFL clocks, 31.5 VJ and 9-9 BJ.📈

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Post by DP39 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:55 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:35 am
DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:33 pm
Pabst wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:54 pm



Bolton is a tough one. The pick would be a reach at 24, but it's doubtful that he drops to 55.

As the boards resident Mizzou fan, I like the player, but I'd be upset taking him in the 1st. 2nd round? Hell yes.
Yeah, odds are pretty good he doesn't make it to our 2nd pick. Especially considering he's widely viewed as the top ILB prospect, and probably by a whole round.
Widely viewed by whom? He's not close to the top ILB prospect, even in the mainstream. JOK, Parsons, Collins, Davis, Surratt, Wallow-- I have seen ALL of them listed as the top ILB.

Bolton is 33rd on the consensus board right now, LB4.
Maybe you misunderstood my first post. I was stating the PS won't (shouldn't) draft him in the first and he's certainly not a high enough rated player (top 20) that they are covering their bases just in case he 'drops' to pick 24 (like DD did). Maybe they're hoping he'll be there at 55, Idk. I don't think he will and he's certainly not worth trading up into the 2nd for, imo.

I agree he doesn't fit with Bush, but obviously they do or JO wouldn't be there, I assume.

The other LBs you mention, some are OLBs and some are ILB in a 4-3. You're the one that put out the "Big Board" listing the players as OLB or ILB. I know it's not completely actuate, but my biggest point about Bolton was that I don't think he'll make it to pick 55. By your statements, you do. From the sounds of it, you obviously see him as late 2nd or 3rd rounder. Come draft time, I guess we'll see if the NFL agrees with you or me.

One thing I hope we can agree on is neither of us wants the PS to take him at 24 or trade up in the 2nd for him.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:53 pm

DP39 wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:55 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:35 am
DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:33 pm

Yeah, odds are pretty good he doesn't make it to our 2nd pick. Especially considering he's widely viewed as the top ILB prospect, and probably by a whole round.
Widely viewed by whom? He's not close to the top ILB prospect, even in the mainstream. JOK, Parsons, Collins, Davis, Surratt, Wallow-- I have seen ALL of them listed as the top ILB.

Bolton is 33rd on the consensus board right now, LB4.
Maybe you misunderstood my first post. I was stating the PS won't (shouldn't) draft him in the first and he's certainly not a high enough rated player (top 20) that they are covering their bases just in case he 'drops' to pick 24 (like DD did). Maybe they're hoping he'll be there at 55, Idk. I don't think he will and he's certainly not worth trading up into the 2nd for, imo.

I agree he doesn't fit with Bush, but obviously they do or JO wouldn't be there, I assume.

The other LBs you mention, some are OLBs and some are ILB in a 4-3. You're the one that put out the "Big Board" listing the players as OLB or ILB. I know it's not completely actuate, but my biggest point about Bolton was that I don't think he'll make it to pick 55. By your statements, you do. From the sounds of it, you obviously see him as late 2nd or 3rd rounder. Come draft time, I guess we'll see if the NFL agrees with you or me.

One thing I hope we can agree on is neither of us wants the PS to take him at 24 or trade up in the 2nd for him.
I think some team will overdraft him in the 30s. His type of LB is old-school but I think many teams are beginning to realize that that style has limitations on Sundays. Mostly, I would unhappy if the Steelers took him just because I think they could really use some length in the MOF.

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Post by Ice » Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:50 pm

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Post by jebrick » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:59 am

Parsons is Shazier 2.0 with all the warts. He has trouble reading plays same as Shazier did. I think Browning is the same.

I think JOK will be a better ILB/Will sooner than either Parsons or Browning.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:03 am

JOK is the best in coverage of all of those LB or Big S types. Browning I think maybe the next best when it’s all said and done. I think Browning in the 2nd is way more likely for the Steelers than JOK in the 1st.
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Post by Mick » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:58 pm

Javonte Williams (UNC RB Pro day):

Height: 5-foot-9
Weight: 212
Hand Size: 9.75 inches
Arm Size: 30.875 inches
Wing Span: 74.875
40-Yard Dash: 4.58 & 4.55
Vertical Jump: 36.0 inches
Broad Jump: 10 feet 3 inches
Short Shuttle: 4.09 seconds
Three-Cone Drill: 6.97 seconds
Bench Press: 22 reps

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:48 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:58 pm
Javonte Williams (UNC RB Pro day):

Height: 5-foot-9
Weight: 212
Hand Size: 9.75 inches
Arm Size: 30.875 inches
Wing Span: 74.875
40-Yard Dash: 4.58 & 4.55
Vertical Jump: 36.0 inches
Broad Jump: 10 feet 3 inches
Short Shuttle: 4.09 seconds
Three-Cone Drill: 6.97 seconds
Bench Press: 22 reps
Solid. He could have used a little better 40 but, that's not who he is. It's kind of amazing watching him play and then learning he's only 5-9 212
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Post by cop1211 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:48 pm

I thought he looked more like 220+

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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:25 pm

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:51 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:48 pm
I thought he looked more like 220+
I think they like to drop a bunch of weight to run faster times. I doubt seriously he played at that weight. Also worth noting that the Steelers powers that be were NOT at the UNC pro day.

Looking like Etienne, people.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:02 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:51 pm
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:48 pm
I thought he looked more like 220+
I think they like to drop a bunch of weight to run faster times. I doubt seriously he played at that weight. Also worth noting that the Steelers powers that be were NOT at the UNC pro day.

Looking like Etienne, people.
That would really be my least favorite by far of what I suspect the big 4 RB targets as being Harris Stevenson Williams Etienne
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:39 am

OL Kendrick Green, Illinois (6-foot-2, 305)

4.85s 40-yard dash (99th percentile)
2.18s 20-yard split (97th)
1.69 10-yard split (97th)

36” vertical (99th)
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:44 am

Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:39 am
OL Kendrick Green, Illinois (6-foot-2, 305)

4.85s 40-yard dash (99th percentile)
2.18s 20-yard split (97th)
1.69 10-yard split (97th)

36” vertical (99th)
9’11” broad (100th)
yeah.......he wont make it outta the 4th......
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:03 pm

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* Steelers
* Panthers
* Bears
* Bengals
* Cowboys
* Vikings
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Post by Jobu » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:20 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
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Teams with OC or QB coaches in attendance Texas A&M pro-day to watch Kellen Mond:

* Steelers
* Panthers
* Bears
* Bengals
* Cowboys
* Vikings
Oh dear gawd...no!

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Post by jebrick » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:33 pm

I don't understand why they would look at a late rd QB or even consider using a draft choice on one.
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Post by Mick » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:35 pm

jebrick wrote:
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I don't understand why they would look at a late rd QB or even consider using a draft choice on one.
why not? Mond specifically aside.

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Post by jebrick » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:57 pm

Mick wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:35 pm
jebrick wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:33 pm
I don't understand why they would look at a late rd QB or even consider using a draft choice on one.
why not? Mond specifically aside.
They already have 4 QB under contract. 2 of which are guaranteed to be on the 53. So you have Haskins and Dobbs battling for the spot on the practice squad. Why draft another QB when you have so many other holes in the team. How many 4+ round QBs do shit in this league.
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Post by Mick » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:17 pm

jebrick wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:57 pm
Mick wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:35 pm
jebrick wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:33 pm
I don't understand why they would look at a late rd QB or even consider using a draft choice on one.
why not? Mond specifically aside.
They already have 4 QB under contract. 2 of which are guaranteed to be on the 53. So you have Haskins and Dobbs battling for the spot on the practice squad. Why draft another QB when you have so many other holes in the team. How many 4+ round QBs do shit in this league.
i mean, either you think (1) our QB of the future is clearly on our roster (2) we should be looking for our qb of the future or (3) qb isn’t an important position so who cares.

I disagree with (1) and (3), which leaves me open to looking at new options. If the thought is “we shouldn’t draft QBs whose upside is NFL backup”, then i agree. But just because a QB gets drafted outside the first round doesn’t mean their upside is backup QB; prolly half the last 20 superbowl winners started a QB drafted later than the 1st (yes, a lot of tom brady in there).

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Post by Jobu » Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:19 pm

Dobbs is not under contract...not on the roster.

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