Is Warren Better Than Najee?

[Orangesteel]

The point is production vs. draft capital. Najee needs to put up Dalvin Cook/King Henry/CMC when not injured kind of numbers.

I welcome it. I’m just uneasy right now that he will, and it’s not totally his fault.

[franco32]

Ramon Foster was on DK's show yesterday and was really going after Najee. He said he "runs into darkness" and "up the backs of the Olineman". He said the line is not doing that bad of a job, but that Najee is just running where he thinks the play should go rather than where the daylight happens to be.

Now, clearly when guys are in the backfield at handoff, that is an Oline failure. And, that happens quite a bit. However, when the Oline wins or gets a stalemate, I think Ramon is right. Najee just isn't seeing the hole. There was one play yesterday where there was a decent hole between Dotson and Moore on the left side. Najee ignored it and ran straight up Dotson and Cole's backs.

That's a problem.

[bradshaw2ben]

….and now Mitchell out the next 2 months
Yep
Major durability issues
Can’t help your team in the tub

Najee’s lisfranc says hi

C'mon man
1/2 a game vs. now over 15 in the same two year time period?
You're not close on this one

im not suggesting we should put all our egged in Elijah Mitchell’s basket or that he’s a Najee replacement—just saying he was definitely worth pick 140, just based on what he has done.

[langer]

Is there a coach for the running backs, did he try to ask Coach Mike for help and was blown off.

I can imagine an o-lineman getting sick of a 250lb guy running into his back play after play for no reason.

[Jobu]

Ramon Foster was on DK's show yesterday and was really going after Najee. He said he "runs into darkness" and "up the backs of the Olineman". He said the line is not doing that bad of a job, but that Najee is just running where he thinks the play should go rather than where the daylight happens to be.

Now, clearly when guys are in the backfield at handoff, that is an Oline failure. And, that happens quite a bit. However, when the Oline wins or gets a stalemate, I think Ramon is right. Najee just isn't seeing the hole. There was one play yesterday where there was a decent hole between Dotson and Moore on the left side. Najee ignored it and ran straight up Dotson and Cole's backs.

That's a problem.

I saw that. Foster also noted that as an offensive lineman, if I move my guy a foot and a half, that’s a win and it’s up to the RB to find the and get through the seam.

[fractalsteel]

Warren had a few nice pickups in Pass Pro and a really nice block on the Claypool reverse late that got good yardage.

This was like a video game block by Warren!

https://twitter.com/renegadeadam/status ... xT-KBNcMDA

He is what 5'8" so that is really impressive.
Warren has violent hands.

[Rod & Wire Mill]

When Deangelo was handling duties, the O was pretty effective. He had speed and moves. I was at a game and he was on another level than anyone out there.

Then we got rid of him.

Yep. Had to run the wheels off FWP, too.

[Rod & Wire Mill]

Is there a coach for the running backs, did he try to ask Coach Mike for help and was blown off.

I can imagine an o-lineman getting sick of a 250lb guy running into his back play after play for no reason.

I think it’s kind of the opposite. He’s running it the way they want him to. Seems like there’s a lot of that all over the team—guys executing assignments even when the realities aren’t there, sticking with the design when the play isn’t there, and/or not following up after an assignment is fulfilled. Only a few guys are allowed or feel ok free-lancing, or you know, playing football

[955876]

This team needs to hire a run game coordinator.

If they already have one, they need to fire & hire a new one.

Same shit year after year.

Jibbs must love having a simplistic offense. Likely all the numbskull can understand & process.

[langer]

Is there a coach for the running backs, did he try to ask Coach Mike for help and was blown off.

I can imagine an o-lineman getting sick of a 250lb guy running into his back play after play for no reason.

I think it’s kind of the opposite. He’s running it the way they want him to. Seems like there’s a lot of that all over the team—guys executing assignments even when the realities aren’t there, sticking with the design when the play isn’t there, and/or not following up after an assignment is fulfilled. Only a few guys are allowed or feel ok free-lancing, or you know, playing football

He is a True Leader of Men. I despise that shit.

Hmm, what's going on with Najee, the way news is handled with him is mighty weird.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/st ... r-AA11MBwd

[Kodiak.]

This team needs to hire a run game coordinator.

Why would anyone want the job? Forget that no one wants any of Tomlin's coaches, who would want to get caught between the revolving doors or OC and OL coach?

[steelmann58]

Man miss what MM brought to this team

[SteelerDayTrader]

You can’t argue with drafting Najee in rd 1

The Steelers had ZERO at RB. Had to draft Najee

The bigger issue is the Steelers carry at least 2 other RBs and a FB and those players need to better and used more AND those slots can be filled later in a draft

[tbsteel]

Ramon Foster was on DK's show yesterday and was really going after Najee. He said he "runs into darkness" and "up the backs of the Olineman". He said the line is not doing that bad of a job, but that Najee is just running where he thinks the play should go rather than where the daylight happens to be.

Now, clearly when guys are in the backfield at handoff, that is an Oline failure. And, that happens quite a bit. However, when the Oline wins or gets a stalemate, I think Ramon is right. Najee just isn't seeing the hole. There was one play yesterday where there was a decent hole between Dotson and Moore on the left side. Najee ignored it and ran straight up Dotson and Cole's backs.

That's a problem.

Ding ding ding.

The truth is starting to seep out like oil bubbling to the surface. I imagine over the course of the next couple of months it will only get worse and the more astute Steelers fans online will finally start to turn on him the more he blindly just runs into the backs of his blockers.

98% of Steelers fans are convinced this dude is a great RB. They're wrong. He's a below average starting RB and plays the position like he literally is wearing horse blinders. He will never be anything more than a bowling ball RB until his body breaks down, which looks sooner rather than later.

[Steelersfan]

Answer to the question appears to be yes. Just don't know for sure till Warren gets a chance.

Warren is a bullet shot out of a cannon. Dude is at the line of scrimmage THE SECOND the ball is tucked in his gut. Dude has BURST! Najee hesitates, stutters & side-steps. Najee plays RB like Trubisky QBd yesterday. My gawd, be decisive and trust yourself. Plus Najee runs too upright. The second(s) Trubisky QB or Najee RB hesitates is another second(s) the big'uns are on you & in their face. Where Warren is already at the gap or thru the gap, with that burst.

Warrens bullet style is much better for this offensive line we have also, where every second counts and is magnified while getting bull dozed back.

The sooner this staff realizes Warren could be a better #1 and Najee is our 3rd down back & #2, the better.

Najee would be the best 3rd down back ( great hands out of the backfield ) & best #2, in the league. Warren & Najee together, could be one of the best tandems & RBs by committee in the league. Fuck Najees pride. The move would make him better, more productive, and extend his career .

Fuck the draft positions also. They even out. One a #1, one undrafted. Who cares what order they're listed on the, paper only, depth chart. Make the move, makes them both better. Makes the run game better and now functional. Run game makes the offense more functional. More functional offense forces the defense to be on the field less. The whole team's better. Make the fucking move. Najee can still be the later down, short yardage, goaline, put the game away back to get his carries. The Steelers run game has SUCKED ASS for YEARS now. Make the move!

[955876]

The good news is that if true it’ll only take Jibbs 2-3 years after it’s evident to realize it himself.

[Steelersfan]

The good news is that if true it’ll only take Jibbs 2-3 years after it’s evident to realize it himself.

I understand what your preaching 95. But, this may only take Najee missing a start, for the world to realize, if Warren is who I think he is. And takes advantage of it by showing that burst. Home opener this week could be his chance. If he gets the shot, hope he explodes & doesn't have me eatin Raven crow.

[langer]

98% of Steelers fans are convinced this dude is a great RB.

PR works, having the media perform PR works, commercials work, Coach MIke's bullshit works. This is the new world. Gotta have Najee's magnetic personality, awesome dreads and huge smile out there for all to see, and be a hero to us all especially those young kids out there. LOL.

I know I saw on Steelers Depot that he was DTD, then that was taken down.

Put the UDFA in, and maybe Mitch won't suck as bad.

[955876]

Pretty bad when a rookie UDFA is being discussed as possibly being better than our shiny new (and expensive) 1st round RB.

But then again, these are the guys that have away big draft capital to move up for an u detailed MLB with the heart of the Cowardly Lion.