Peter King Mailbag

[955876]

Ya, the Steelers are certainly a destination where a coordinator can expect to get “paid the most”.

Now you are beginning to talk about some of the other MASSIVE problems here.

Nice post

Not only would an up and coming OC be looking at a potentially small paycheck, he'd be looking at a tremendous challenge in putting up the kind of tape and stats that would allow him to move up the ladder to a HC position going forward. For an OC, Pittsburgh is a terrible job choice.

For an offensive-minded HC? Highest in the league level salary, Pope-like job security, legacy franchise, but with a mostly clean slate, stable ownership that spends on players... a much better package.

One of those jobs would be a LOT easier to sell to a young, bright offensive mind than the other.

100%

Buuuut, we do what we do. Dunce is a chickenshit coward who will likely want to hire a defensive minded coach for no other reason than that’s what we do here.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Ya, the Steelers are certainly a destination where a coordinator can expect to get “paid the most”.

Now you are beginning to talk about some of the other MASSIVE problems here.

Nice post

Not only would an up and coming OC be looking at a potentially small paycheck, he'd be looking at a tremendous challenge in putting up the kind of tape and stats that would allow him to move up the ladder to a HC position going forward. For an OC, Pittsburgh is a terrible job choice.

For an offensive-minded HC? Highest in the league level salary, Pope-like job security, legacy franchise, but with a mostly clean slate, stable ownership that spends on players... a much better package.

One of those jobs would be a LOT easier to sell to a young, bright offensive mind than the other.

1. Every man has his price. Money talks. The Steelers need to accept that and follow through. On more levels than one

2. Why would putting stats and performance on tape be a challenge for an OC if he had offensive autonomy ??

[Ice]

1) We won't pay it.

2) He won't get it.

Like 95 said, we do what we do.

[SteelerDayTrader]

1) We won't pay it.

2) He won't get it.

Like 95 said, we do what we do.

Perhaps. But that’s certainly not endemic solely to Tomlin

And since that’s the case this team likely needs ALOT MORE than merely firing Tomlin. Additionally given those constraints it certainly holds that perhaps Tomlin is holding the whole thing together far better than we realize on the surface

[SteelerDayTrader]

I mean this team is on record as

- letting the ST coach pick the 13-ish players he wants to fill out the roster

- letting the assistants/position coaches pick draft picks

I think those 2 things amongst likely others as well could go a long way to explaining the bizarre dichotomies at times with the roster.

Maybe those are good things and the Steelers are ahead of the curve but I think things like that need to be re-examined at times

[955876]

What exactly is Jibbs primary duty? Besides jabbering at his pressers and lookin cool on Sundays?

[Ice]

I mean this team is on record as

- letting the ST coach pick the 13-ish players he wants to fill out the roster

- letting the assistants/position coaches pick draft picks

I think those 2 things amongst likely others as well could go a long way to explaining the bizarre dichotomies at times with the roster.

Maybe those are good things and the Steelers are ahead of the curve but I think things like that need to be re-examined at times

Both seem pretty dumb, but probably have different root causes. The STs thing has been a philosophy since Cowher left. Cowher teams had young, up and coming players apprenticing on STs, where Tomlin teams have (increasingly) relied on "trusted (less talented, usually a little washed) veterans" to fill those spots. Always reminded me of how Bylsma (and recently Sully) approached the 4th line with the Pens. I've always thought those spots better spent on player development.

Letting assistants make draft picks, to me, speaks as much about not wanting to pay to maintain a properly sized and funded college scouting program as anything else.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I mean this team is on record as

- letting the ST coach pick the 13-ish players he wants to fill out the roster

- letting the assistants/position coaches pick draft picks

I think those 2 things amongst likely others as well could go a long way to explaining the bizarre dichotomies at times with the roster.

Maybe those are good things and the Steelers are ahead of the curve but I think things like that need to be re-examined at times

Both seem pretty dumb, but probably have different root causes. The STs thing has been a philosophy since Cowher left. Cowher teams had young, up and coming players apprenticing on STs, where Tomlin teams have (increasingly) relied on "trusted (less talented, usually a little washed) veterans" to fill those spots. Always reminded me of how Bylsma (and recently Sully) approached the 4th line with the Pens. I've always thought those spots better spent on player development.

Letting assistants make draft picks, to me, speaks as much about not wanting to pay to maintain a properly sized and funded college scouting program as anything else.

Fairly certain (?) the ST thing was Cowher era as well

[Ice]

I'll admit I was still pretty young back then, ten or so when the Chin was hired, but it probably was a thing under him, too, to an extent. Just seems like a LOT of has-beens and assorted stiffs on STs recently, rather than players who could grow into a starting role, or even log quality backup minutes.

Takes its toll when injuries mount, like the last few games.

[USS Steelerworks]

I mean this team is on record as

- letting the ST coach pick the 13-ish players he wants to fill out the roster

- letting the assistants/position coaches pick draft picks

I think those 2 things amongst likely others as well could go a long way to explaining the bizarre dichotomies at times with the roster.

Maybe those are good things and the Steelers are ahead of the curve but I think things like that need to be re-examined at times

Both seem pretty dumb, but probably have different root causes. The STs thing has been a philosophy since Cowher left. Cowher teams had young, up and coming players apprenticing on STs, where Tomlin teams have (increasingly) relied on "trusted (less talented, usually a little washed) veterans" to fill those spots. Always reminded me of how Bylsma (and recently Sully) approached the 4th line with the Pens. I've always thought those spots better spent on player development.

Letting assistants make draft picks, to me, speaks as much about not wanting to pay to maintain a properly sized and funded college scouting program as anything else.

Unbelievable how quickly people forget Sean Morey.