No need to panic with Bryant's situation....

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Re: No need to panic with Bryant's situation....

Post by jeemie » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:18 am

KC wrote:
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KC wrote:Yeah, the same guy that had 9 catches for 154 yards against the possibly the best corners in the league, against the soon-to-be World Champions.

Our best deep threat option and a mismatch for anybody to cover.

I'm sure we won't miss him.


And we scored a whopping 16 points that game.

And I'm pretty certain I never said we wouldn't miss him.

I said we can be contenders without him.

I realize the subtle but distinct difference between those two positions is too much for the 256k microprocessor you laughingly call your brain. Sorry about that.


Yeah, after the poor bastard was basically tackled in the end zone before the ball got there, a play that should have been a TD or the Steelers ball at the 1.

The refs and Fitzgerald Toussaint made sure the Steelers scored 16 points, not Martavis Bryant.

You blaming the one guy who showed up on offense for us only scoring 16 points really magnifies your stupidity.

Color me shocked.

I'm sure we don't need the guy who makes all world plays like his catch against the Bungles in the playoffs and his game winning fucking jaw dropping play to beat the Arizona Cardinals once Ben went down.

Yeah, I'm sure we'll be fine.

:lol:

9 for 154 against Denver's defense and he didn't do enough for ya. Okay.


I missed the part where I blamed Martavis...for anything.


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Post by R_S » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:45 am

KC, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Seasons over in March? No Super Bowl? We are fucked, might as well not bother?


Bell is two times more important to this offense than Bryant. If he stays healthy we are good.

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Post by Obviously » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:25 am

R S wrote:KC, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Seasons over in March? No Super Bowl? We are fucked, might as well not bother?


Bell is two times more important to this offense than Bryant. If he stays healthy we are good.


That's one huge if.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:50 am

franco32 wrote:Exactly. I posted this in the Bryant suspension thread. He was highly invisible for good chunks of the season. The dropsies were back in full force late in the year. He was starting to make DHB look sure handed in comparison.


Every Steeler WR not named Antonio Brown goes invisible for good chunks of the season...this is not a consistent group outside of AB. DHB and Wheaton are just guys and are only productive because of the attention given to AB and Bryant.

Bryant scares the shit out of NFL secondaries. He doesn't have to make a catch to help this offense. He's a freak of nature in a league full of athletic freaks. And when he is on he is unstoppable. Those are all cliches...but they are not lies.

No matter how cool Ben plays it to the press and fans, he is probably fucking beside himself right now. He will have a good year without Bryant because this is one talented group on offense. However, with Bryant, Ben probably hits 5000 yards and 40 TDs this season.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:53 am

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:06 am

R S wrote:KC, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Seasons over in March? No Super Bowl? We are fucked, might as well not bother?


Bell is two times more important to this offense than Bryant. If he stays healthy we are good.


With Bryant you probably get two or three more games with a good lead. Making the opponents offense one dimensional and Butler's willingness to apply pressure in the passing game makes the job of a bad defense a lot easier.

In that context Bryant tilts the table by one to three games, probably two games. A player that can make that kind of difference puts you on the good side of that fine line that Cowher always talked about.

If both Coates and Green show up big it could cover up a lot of stink. Green said he has to gain weight to block. These goes the freak speed as he waddles to the seem. Coates has made two plays. So at this point neither are exactly terrorizing DCs.

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Post by jeemie » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:12 am

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BethlehemSteel wrote:Jeemie the hall monitor paints post mortem pictures like Pablo Picasso


Everything is fine, stay calm, jeemie is on the case

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You guys can panic if you want.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:18 am

Jeemie wrote:the only loss that would be a MASSIVE, MASSIVE BLOW to our Super Bowl hopes is Ben.


not to nitpick here, but...little guy named AB?

are you picking us as Super Bowl contenders if he goes down week 1, 'cuz i'm not

ChicagoSteel wrote:However, with Bryant, Ben probably hits 5000 yards and 40 TDs this season.


Ben needs to put up 40 TDs this season regardless. he's overdue for such a season.

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Post by COR-TEN » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:12 pm

Nobody has a clue as to what Sammie Coates can do.

For all we know, he'll have a breakout season like MB did 2 years ago.

For all we know, he becomes the threat that MB was, only better - because he's an unknown - just like MB was when he first played. Not to mention the fact that eyes will be on Green when he's on the field. Jessie James is also an unknown.

Comparing seasons seems silly to me. Player personnel, quality of opponents, and injuries all ALSO play a factor in how well someone plays.

Count me in the camp that says the steelers will be just fine.
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Post by StillerInCT » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:19 pm

I refuse to say the season is lost in fucking March. Does it suck? Of course it does. But we haven't even seen our draft haul yet. If our organization has proven anything it's that they are able to replace WRs efficiently. Sammie Coates has an entire offseason to get into a rhythm with Ben. There has to be a reason we took him in the 3rd round. Hell, maybe DHB has a career year with a legitimate QB. He's still got speed.

We added Green. We should get Bell back for the season or early in the season. And we have the best QB/WR duo in the league. An above average to good offensive line. An improving defense that will get guys like Golson back this year.

We're still a top 3 team in the AFC.
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:17 pm

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:06 pm

StillerInCT wrote:I refuse to say the season is lost in fucking March. Does it suck? Of course it does. But we haven't even seen our draft haul yet. If our organization has proven anything it's that they are able to replace WRs efficiently. Sammie Coates has an entire offseason to get into a rhythm with Ben. There has to be a reason we took him in the 3rd round. Hell, maybe DHB has a career year with a legitimate QB. He's still got speed.

We added Green. We should get Bell back for the season or early in the season. And we have the best QB/WR duo in the league. An above average to good offensive line. An improving defense that will get guys like Golson back this year.

We're still a top 3 team in the AFC.


Obviously nobody is saying the fucking season is lost in March, but some are acting like losing Bryant is no big deal.

Make no mistake, it's a HUGE fucking deal.
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Post by Obviously » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:13 pm

It is a huge fucking deal. I'm curious to see what Sammie Coates brings to the table. If he can give us 75% of what Bryant gave us, we're in good shape. Wheaton will not bring that. I think a WR is in play for the draft as well.
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Post by 955876 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:14 pm

While he doesn't replace what Bryant can do on the field, what are thoughts of brining in a guy like Boldin if a cap friendly deal can be made?

He wouldn't be a deep threat but he would be a big body who can still pay dividends in the RZ and on 3rd downs. Guy had almost 800 yards last season on a shitty 49er team with a shitty QB.

I think our WR corps can get it done as it stands today. An injury or two quickly changes a team strength to a team weakness.

Vet who knows how to play and use his body. There is some value there provided he isn't seeking a mega deal. Also wants to play for a contender.

Could be worth a look.

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Post by DP39 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:35 pm

What about WR Rueben Randall on a one year prove it deal? When he's right he's a decent big threat WR. Can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe Percy Harvin on a vet minimum one year deal. Might be willing to actually play harder for his boy Tomlin. Nice KR/PR too. Only 27 yrs old and a good chance to get a SB win.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:13 pm

We gonna be OK. The offense is still gonna slay. I'm super excited about the new TE. Finally, the Steelers enter the 21st century at the position!

I'm far more concerned about the continued evolution of the defense under Coach Butler. And that we do a good job drafting and evolving some freaking players in the secondary. I'm confident we can do that, I liked what I saw last year.

Next man up! We have a couple of talented prospects at WR, and I'm sure they'll find at least one more in the later rounds or as an UDFA. We're gonna be OK.

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Post by Steelers4Life » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:23 am

With Bryant done for the year, DHB is going to get a shit load of playing time, being the one to stretch the D an open up things underneath. He will be the home run hitter, and he better be up to the challenge (i.e. catch the ball).

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Post by Steelafan77 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:32 am

Agree with the OP. No need to panic. There's fairly decent untapped WR depth already on the roster. I'm thinking if anyone should be panicking it's Bryant.

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Post by jeemie » Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:58 pm

I swear to God, the binary thinking of some people.

So the only two choices we are allowed to make is either agree it's a HUGE, MASSIVE BLOW to our Super Bowl hopes or else you're saying "it's not a big deal at all...Bryant sucked...we can just shrug it off". Is that it? Those are the ONLY two opinions?

There's no opinion that can be held along a wide spectrum, including holding different opinions as to how the Steelers can adapt to the loss of Bryant?

I guess not, to some people whose brains are no more complex than this:

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Post by COR-TEN » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:07 pm

Jeemie wrote:I guess not, to some people whose brains are no more complex than this:
Is it just me, or did I see a veiled insult to anybody that doesn't think like you in that post?
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Post by Obviously » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:53 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Jeemie wrote:I guess not, to some people whose brains are no more complex than this:
Is it just me, or did I see a veiled insult to anybody that doesn't think like you in that post?


He's the hall monitor. Respect his authority.
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Post by jeemie » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:10 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Jeemie wrote:I guess not, to some people whose brains are no more complex than this:
Is it just me, or did I see a veiled insult to anybody that doesn't think like you in that post?


No- it's a veiled insult to anyone that thinks that just about any event that happens to the Steelers has only one of two possible outcomes..."CHAMPIONSHIP!" or "WE'RE DOOMED".

And anyone that thinks that when I said the loss of Bryant isn't a HUGE, MASSIVE BLOW to our Super Bowl aspirations, it meant I was saying the loss of Bryant was "no big deal- he sucked anyway".
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Post by steelmann58 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:29 am

I agree totally about zumwalt needs to stay healthy before we really knows what he has.

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Post by Old School Steeler » Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:37 am

In spite of signing Green and as a remedy for losing a weapon wouldn't be surprised if we draft a top TE prospect if avail.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:32 pm

Old School Steeler wrote:In spite of signing Green and as a remedy for losing a weapon wouldn't be surprised if we draft a top TE prospect if avail.

I'm my opinion, there's only one guy in this class who doesn't duplicate what we have and is worth a draft pick. His name is Rico Gathers, and you can see him in action today or tomorrow.
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