OT - Ray Rice suspended

[BethlehemSteel]

As I hate goofwell with every fiber of my being....this night mare PR scenario is delicious. Gordon a whole year for pot. I hope he decides to make a statement on this so we can hiss him even more. What a travesty of a man he is.

[COS]

As I hate goofwell with every fiber of my being....this night mare PR scenario is delicious. Gordon a whole year for pot. I hope he decides to make a statement on this so we can hiss him even more. What a travesty of a man he is.

We've all known the horrific slimeball Goodell is, hopefully this opens the eyes of the general public as to what a two-faced prick this guy is.

[Legacy User]

At least one of the two games he misses is vs the steelers.

[Legacy User]

As I hate goofwell with every fiber of my being....this night mare PR scenario is delicious. Gordon a whole year for pot. I hope he decides to make a statement on this so we can hiss him even more. What a travesty of a man he is.

We've all known the horrific slimeball Goodell is, hopefully this opens the eyes of the general public as to what a two-faced prick this guy is.

Doubt it my man

[Kodiak]

At least one of the two games he misses is vs the steelers.

I'd rather the 2013 version of Ray Rice played

[Legacy User]

Whoever made that sig bet with me...I lost. Tell me what my sig is.

Ray Rice is a shithead.

Was looking for you Back

Soon soon

I'm here.

[BethlehemSteel]

Whoever made that sig bet with me...I lost. Tell me what my sig is.

Ray Rice is a shithead.

Was looking for you Back

Soon soon

I'm here.

Signature was the bet right? Anything else? How long?

[BethlehemSteel]

From Ravens.com

News one and Rice response. goofwell's letter is inset in quotes.....let's all go out for some funny cigarettes

Ravens running back Ray Rice has been suspended for two games under the NFL personal-conduct policy.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced the punishment via a memo on Thursday, the first day of the Ravens’ full training camp practice.

Rice’s suspension is without pay, and will be fined an additional game check.

In a letter to Rice, Goodell stated:

“As you acknowledged during our meeting, your conduct was unquestionably inconsistent with league polices and the standard of behavior required of everyone who is part of the NFL. The league is an entity that depends on integrity and in the confidence of the public and we simply cannot tolerate conduct that endangers others or reflects negatively on our game. This is particularly true with respect to domestic violence and other forms of violence against women.

“You will be expected to continue to take advantage of the counseling and other professional services you identified during our meeting. As you noted, this additional assistance has been of significant benefit to you and your wife, and it should remain a part of your practice as appropriate.

“I believe that you are sincere in your desire to learn from this matter and move forward toward a healthy relationship and successful career. I am now focused on your actions and expect you to demonstrate by those actions that you are prepared to fulfill those expectations.”

Rice will miss a key two-game stand against the Ravens’ chief AFC North foes to begin the season. Baltimore opens with defending division champion Cincinnati on Sept. 7, then welcomes arch-rival Pittsburgh to M&T Bank Stadium.

“While not having Ray for the first two games is significant to our team, we respect the league’s decision and believe it is fair,” Ravens General Manager Ozzie Newsome said in a statement.

“We appreciate the thorough process the league office used to evaluate the incident with Ray Rice. The time the Commissioner spent with Ray and Janay is typical of the extra steps the NFL takes when making decisions regarding discipline issues.”

Rice and his wife, Janay, reportedly met with Goodell on June 16 to discuss the events that took place in February and their steps moving forward. Goodell likely also considered that Rice is a first-time offender who has done a great deal of charity work in the Baltimore community, including anti-bullying campaigns.

Rice was arrested on Feb. 15 after he and his then fiancée and now wife, Janay Rice, got into an altercation in an elevator at Revel Casino in Atlantic City, N.J.

Rice avoided standing trial because prosecutors approved him for a pre-trial intervention program designed for first-time offenders, which will allow him to clear his record of charges of the alleged assault if completed successfully.

“It is disappointing that I will not be with my teammates for the first two games of the season, but that’s my fault,” Rice said in a statement. “As I said earlier, I failed in many ways.

“But, Janay and I have learned from this. We have become better as a couple and as parents. I am better because of everything we have experienced since that night. The counseling has helped tremendously.”

Rice can practice with the team for the remainder of training camp and the preseason. He will have to stay away from the team facility during his suspension, which will technically last less than two weeks since the Ravens play their first two games within five days.

Rice will not take up a spot on the 53-man roster while he’s suspended. Baltimore will rely on backup Bernard Pierce, fourth-round rookie Lorenzo Taliaferro and veteran Justin Forsett during that stretch.

Rice’s suspension will begin on August 30. He will be eligible for reinstatement on Monday, September 12.

Now Rice will try to move on from the incident.

“My goal is to earn back the trust of the people, especially the children, I let down because of this incident,” he said. “I am a role model and I take that responsibility seriously. My actions going forward will show that.”

Rice has received support from the front office, coaches and his teammates.

“We respect the efforts Ray has made to become the best partner and father he can be,” Newsome said. “That night was not typical of the Ray Rice we know and respect. We believe that he will not let that one night define who he is and he is determined to make sure something like this never happens again.”

“He’s a great guy,” added defensive tackle Haloti Ngata. “Always been a great guy. Jokes around, has fun. He’s the same guy.”

Wide receiver Torrey Smith and his wife may be the closest couple to Rice and his wife. The two couples have been in frequent contact throughout the time following the incident.

“It’s definitely tough,” Smith said. “People are going to try to view him differently, but I know how Ray is as a person and I know how Janay is and they’re working to improve on everything.

“I’ll be glad when those two games are up, not only so we can have him back – which is the least of my worries – but to close the final chapter for him.”

[Legacy User]

Hehehehe...I suppose I can write anything I want about bloke and not worry about it.

I've got two main points.

1- The NFL loves this shit. There has been plenty of time to consider the consequences of having an arbitrary suspension policy and by all indications the NFL demands on rolling with it into the future. It is simple enough to codify and this speculation ends at the arrest. Everything is in the hands of the courts. There isn't months of web/cable speculation of what the length of the suspension will be. But why would you do that when it's been good for ratings and live NFL advertising is more massive then Jesus and Muhammad combined?

The NFL loves this shit. Nothing like sordid gossip for generation selfie or the female fan. Moral outrage and Soap Opera villains always draw the best ratings in those demographics. Hardcore fans just want to know how many Got Damned games will be missed. Everyone is clicking and tuning in.

2- Fans have double standards. Truth is as a fan of the sport I think it's best the law is the final say. I see zero reason for any athlete to face discipline beyond the law. The only players missing games should be those in jail, under PED suspension, or suspended by the team itself. If Flacco got himself in a BR situation I would want him to play. So I'm hoping for as few games lost as possible across the board.

[Legacy User]

Signature was the bet right? Anything else? How long?

Yep, signature. I don't think we specified but I think 1 month is fair.

[BethlehemSteel]

Signature was the bet right? Anything else? How long?

Yep, signature. I don't think we specified but I think 1 month is fair.

That's fair. When I get it done I'll send you a link to a URL

[Legacy User]

It should be a hot, scantily clad chick.

[Smashmouth21]

[Legacy User]

Pryor was suspended 5 games for selling jerseys in college. Big Ben got 6 for accusations, and no charges. Smoking weed gets you 4 games after a first offense. Ray gets 2 for knocking his wife out and dragging her lifeless body from an elevator on camera. Amazing.

my thoughts exactly..its seriously fucked up and unbelievable! there needs to be a uniform policy for discipline..not the whims of a biased fucking jackass!

[BethlehemSteel]

We should all flood goodells email with outrage, hearing many female fans are outraged too. This is a perfect pr nightmare opportunity here. Direct conflict with goofwell's marketing plan for more female fans

Goodell is evil

[Legacy User]

Pryor was suspended 5 games for selling jerseys in college. Big Ben got 6 for accusations, and no charges. Smoking weed gets you 4 games after a first offense. Ray gets 2 for knocking his wife out and dragging her lifeless body from an elevator on camera. Amazing.

my thoughts exactly..its seriously fucked up and unbelievable! there needs to be a uniform policy for discipline..not the whims of a biased fucking jackass!

Lifeless? But point taken.

[BethlehemSteel]

Doberman has lost his shit on this too....i hate him as well but Rice's sentence here is simply, well you know

http://www.upworthy.com/tv-host-loses-h ... g=2&c=ufb1

[BethlehemSteel]

This will get your blood up more

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/sport ... .html?_r=0

[rooneytunes]

LOL. I so hope they do this.



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Jim Goodrich @igua9 · 13h

@Steelersdepot The Heinz Field people should play "Love in an Elevator" when the Ravens come to town.

[COS]

This will get your blood up more

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/sport ... .html?_r=0

Glad he took the Ravens and NFL to task but he can still go fuck himself for saying this

"A few years ago, he dealt with Ben Roethlisberger, the star quarterback and toast of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who was accused of what sounded a bit like rape in a bar. Goodell suspended him four entire games."

[Legacy User]

I suppose insomnia can lead to controversy but I really find all the chivalry over the top.

A night of drinking results in someone playing dead in the elevator. The police statements said both parties had hit each other...the cops also said there were no visible injuries and both parties said no injuries or medical attention were needed. My opinion is it was a drunk argument that got slightly stupid and sloppily dramatized. My understanding is he has been nailing her since she entered college and she will never have to work a day in her life. They got a kid....and she married him after the fact. No prior criminal or NFL discipline for Rice. I think over half a million dollar fine, Daddy's rep hit, the questions revolving around mommies judgement, and this media frenzy is plenty for a young family to bear.

I think the whole thing being arbitrary is ridiculous. I think the entire BR suspension was ridiculous. But the conduct policy considers number of incidents. It also supposedly considers damage to the shield and that means the celebrity of the player can be part of the determination of discipline. So by those standards it's not ridiculous when compared to the four games that BR ended up with imo. But again, in both these cases the legal damage was plenty. Obviously neither will ever overcome the hit to there reputation, every future incident will call these incidents to mind while we ponder the future discipline of the next player to fuck up, and these things will never reach the degree of closure it does for non celebrities.

This would all be codified but the NFL loves this shit. Because this world has moved to a Kardashion level of no talent required, no such thing as bad publicity...in fact each salacious click milks the cable cash cow. And because at some point they will get to say that NFL players commit these types of offenses at less then half the rate of the general public. https://stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/123.nflviol.pdf Maybe Kief should have incuded that in his weepy outrage...I didn't watch but he generally cries during big publicity monologues.

In all honesty I cannot believe how time after time the NFLPA is represented so poorly. The stupidity of what they give up and what they fight for is camp. And I'll tell you something else...the crumbs the NFL tosses the NFLPA are much more concerned with short term profitability then the overall good of the game. These days I often find myself thinking the real problem between labor, management, and the general populations perception of them isn't so much just greed or corruption but the results of negotiation in a world gone stupid.

[Legacy User]

looks like Fat Cam might be putting Rice in the tabloid dust...with some nasty ass sores and a new motto which I fucking love...might change my nom de plume to " we all have to die some day baby".

No culture problem here. Nothing unusual about the Steelers of the past couple of years. Colbert isn't being deceived. There all targets and there only allegations.

[Steelafan77]

"What I’ve tried to employ the female members of my family — some of who you all met and talked to and what have you — is that ... let’s make sure we don’t do anything to provoke wrong actions, because if I come — or somebody else come, whether it’s law enforcement officials, your brother or the fellas that you know — if we come after somebody has put their hands on you, it doesn’t negate the fact that they already put their hands on you." http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index ... ments.html

Steven A. Smith suspended by bspn for a week for comments uttered in the above link.

[Legacy User]

I'm no fan of Steven A. Smith by any means, but he isn't wrong if he's saying what I think he's saying.........which is that a woman shouldn't feel free to employ violence against a man without fear of consequence. And the backlash to what he said is just more shrieking PC nonsense. I've seen quite a few women provoke situations just like the one that's implied with Ray Rice. It's not ok for a woman to hit a guy with the idea that she can get away with it because a guy "isn't supposed to hit a woman". There are a shit ton of women out there that exploit that. I've seen some real nasty ones do it. And for the ones that do, I have no problem whatsoever with them losing some chicklets as a result. If she's going to hit a man with closed fists, she should be ready to get hit like a man.

[Steelafan77]

That's pretty much what I got from Smith's rant as well. I can't stand the jagoff but I think bspn panicked and went all PC to help try and cover up what they feel could be a PR nightmare.

[zeke5123]

I'm no fan of Steven A. Smith by any means, but he isn't wrong if he's saying what I think he's saying.........which is that a woman shouldn't feel free to employ violence against a man without fear of consequence. And the backlash to what he said is just more shrieking PC nonsense. I've seen quite a few women provoke situations just like the one that's implied with Ray Rice. It's not ok for a woman to hit a guy with the idea that she can get away with it because a guy "isn't supposed to hit a woman". There are a shit ton of women out there that exploit that. I've seen some real nasty ones do it. And for the ones that do, I have no problem whatsoever with them losing some chicklets as a result. If she's going to hit a man with closed fists, she should be ready to get hit like a man.

That is the absurdity of it all. It seems the guys who crow about the oppression of women and gender equality are the first ones to scream victim blaming when a woman gets popped after she strikes a man. That is, they think women should be equal in all things, except for when it comes to this issue.

While the issue of proportional response to an attack is somewhat complicated, I don't think any aggressor can really be called a victim. Moreover, they are far from sympathetic.

[RemoAZ]

We'll never know the whole story here. We won't know what the woman said or did just like we don't know if the women that accused Ben just had sex with him and then went after his money.

The only thing we do know for sure is that cunt Roger gave Ben triple (then reduced to double) the suspension for having sex and never getting convicted of anything when Rice is ON TAPE with his knocked out gf. There is absolutely no way to justify how messed up that is. So I'm thrilled old Roger is getting blasted for this from ever major news agency, not just sports stations. Fuck him.

The sad part is how many women stay with the losers that beat them and how many would be standing in line to take the place of the woman if she left. That's relationships in America.

[BethlehemSteel]

Best possible outcome for smith is to burn down ESPN headquarters then run over Roger Goodell and off himself in the process

[Legacy User]

I suppose insomnia can lead to controversy but I really find all the chivalry over the top.

A night of drinking results in someone playing dead in the elevator. The police statements said both parties had hit each other...the cops also said there were no visible injuries and both parties said no injuries or medical attention were needed. My opinion is it was a drunk argument that got slightly stupid and sloppily dramatized. My understanding is he has been nailing her since she entered college and she will never have to work a day in her life. They got a kid....and she married him after the fact. No prior criminal or NFL discipline for Rice. I think over half a million dollar fine, Daddy's rep hit, the questions revolving around mommies judgement, and this media frenzy is plenty for a young family to bear.

I think the whole thing being arbitrary is ridiculous. I think the entire BR suspension was ridiculous. But the conduct policy considers number of incidents. It also supposedly considers damage to the shield and that means the celebrity of the player can be part of the determination of discipline. So by those standards it's not ridiculous when compared to the four games that BR ended up with imo. But again, in both these cases the legal damage was plenty. Obviously neither will ever overcome the hit to there reputation, every future incident will call these incidents to mind while we ponder the future discipline of the next player to fuck up, and these things will never reach the degree of closure it does for non celebrities.

This would all be codified but the NFL loves this shit. Because this world has moved to a Kardashion level of no talent required, no such thing as bad publicity...in fact each salacious click milks the cable cash cow. And because at some point they will get to say that NFL players commit these types of offenses at less then half the rate of the general public. https://stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/123.nflviol.pdf Maybe Kief should have incuded that in his weepy outrage...I didn't watch but he generally cries during big publicity monologues.

In all honesty I cannot believe how time after time the NFLPA is represented so poorly. The stupidity of what they give up and what they fight for is camp. And I'll tell you something else...the crumbs the NFL tosses the NFLPA are much more concerned with short term profitability then the overall good of the game. These days I often find myself thinking the real problem between labor, management, and the general populations perception of them isn't so much just greed or corruption but the results of negotiation in a world gone stupid.

This is an excellent post.

[steelclan]

Smith got damned lucky he didnt get fired on the spot. I fucking hate victim blaming and no it wasnt PC to hold someone accountable for saying mindbogglingly crass and ignorant crap on camera. It doesnt matter if it is sexual assualt, domestic violence and rape we constantly tell women what they should say, what they should wear, how they should act...yeh fucking great meanwhile yet another prep strolls away because we are to busy trying to find ways to mitigate shit instead of nailing the asshole that is the source.

What that lady did or said in the elevator doesnt equate to being cold cocked and dragged around in public like a piece of cattle. The real PC mess is males continually trying to find an angle to explain shitty action against women and patting themselves on the back in a massive group think wank fest.

As my last Commander said it is real simple: "If it were your daughter would you worry about what she said or did when she is victim of abuse? We all know the answer and if we do then it should be the standard for all troops that suffer abuse, period." He was a good boss.