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Post by Kodiak » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:28 pm

Jobu wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:25 pm
And the Chiefs, I might add, also have a ton more offensive talent than the Steelers.
Our offense would be a hell of a lot better if Andy Reid was coach


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Post by Jobu » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:30 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:28 pm
Jobu wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:25 pm
And the Chiefs, I might add, also have a ton more offensive talent than the Steelers.
Our offense would be a hell of a lot better if Andy Reid was coach
Can’t argue with that.

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Post by COR-TEN » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:33 pm

I dunno. Saints or Chiefs are better than the steelers best offensive performance this season. Regardless of warts. And the steelers have lost defensive starters.

It ain't lookin' good.
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Post by El Kabong » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:36 pm

I am content to take it one game at a time like the coaches preach and see what happens. I think we beat Cincy, go 12-2, and win the division. That is a good place to be. I make no judgements about our chances against the Chiefs at this time.
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Post by Kodiak » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:40 pm

that TD pass to Hardman was pretty sick
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Post by El Kabong » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:41 pm

That was pretty jaw dropping.
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Post by Jobu » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:49 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:33 pm
I dunno. Saints or Chiefs are better than the steelers best offensive performance this season. Regardless of warts. And the steelers have lost defensive starters.

It ain't lookin' good.
These are good teams, no doubt, but I just can’t get on board with watching other teams play and losing my shit over it. Like Polt said, one week at a time. Different weeks and different matchups , bring different results.
While KC and NO gave better offenses, I think the Steelers defense is better than both, even with the injuries.
The biggest issue, as I see it, is that those teams play aggressive with the Football, while we have that get to 3rd down, outdated attrition offense.
If the Steelers can fix their issues, they are as good a team as any in the league.
Unfortunately, I’m not real confident of those issues getting fixed.

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Post by Kodiak » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:57 pm

I've also seen both Brees and Mahomes make a few WTF throws today. Just about every QB in the league will do that a couple of times a game, usually. And people still meltdown every time Ben has one of those.
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Post by Pabst » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:59 pm

Jobu wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:49 pm
These are good teams, no doubt, but I just can’t get on board with watching other teams play and losing my shit over it. Like Polt said, one week at a time. Different weeks and different matchups , bring different results.
While KC and NO gave better offenses, I think the Steelers defense is better than both, even with the injuries.
The biggest issue, as I see it, is that those teams play aggressive with the Football, while we have that get to 3rd down, outdated attrition offense.
If the Steelers can fix their issues, they are as good a team as any in the league.
Unfortunately, I’m not real confident of those issues getting fixed.
On a related note, I don't think we'll be hearing much "Sean McVay is better than Mike Tomlin" chatter this week.

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Post by COR-TEN » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:00 am

Actually, mahomes reminds me of young BR. Arrogant, fuck you attitude, I'll do whatever it takes, fuck off. And I have the skills to back it up.

/shrug
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Post by Kodiak » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:00 am

And NYJ beat LAR....
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Post by Jobu » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:01 am

Kodiak wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:57 pm
I've also seen both Brees and Mahomes make a few WTF throws today. Just about every QB in the league will do that a couple of times a game, usually. And people still meltdown every time Ben has one of those.
Yep. Mahomes just got away with one, and earlier Brees threw into triple coverage in the end zone but the easy interception was dropped.

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:02 am

Jobu wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:01 am
Yep. Mahomes just got away with one, and earlier Brees threw into triple coverage in the end zone but the easy interception was dropped.
Two of the worst throws you'll ever see, to be honest. Brees throwing a lollipop into triple coverage was especially awful.
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Post by Jobu » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:04 am

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And NYJ beat LAR....
It’s the NFL...even a sure thing isn’t a sure thing.

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:05 am

Mahomes can tire a defense out by himself chasing him around trying to get a sack. That's going to really hurt having lost 3 LBers.
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Post by El Kabong » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:06 am

Pabst wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:59 pm
Jobu wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:49 pm
These are good teams, no doubt, but I just can’t get on board with watching other teams play and losing my shit over it. Like Polt said, one week at a time. Different weeks and different matchups , bring different results.
While KC and NO gave better offenses, I think the Steelers defense is better than both, even with the injuries.
The biggest issue, as I see it, is that those teams play aggressive with the Football, while we have that get to 3rd down, outdated attrition offense.
If the Steelers can fix their issues, they are as good a team as any in the league.
Unfortunately, I’m not real confident of those issues getting fixed.
On a related note, I don't think we'll be hearing much "Sean McVay is better than Mike Tomlin" chatter this week.
Losing to a winless team. Tsk tsk.
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Post by Pabst » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:09 am

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:05 am
Mahomes can tire a defense out by himself chasing him around trying to get a sack. That's going to really hurt having lost 3 LBers.
NO's offensive ineptitude is wearing out the defense just as much as Mahomes.

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:11 am

So if you're Trevor Lawrence, are you happy or sad now that JAX has the #1 pick? Or don't you care?

At least you could have lived the good life in NYC. Jacksonville is as much of a shithole as it's team.
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Post by Pabst » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:21 am

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:11 am
So if you're Trevor Lawrence, are you happy or sad now that JAX has the #1 pick? Or don't you care?

At least you could have lived the good life in NYC. Jacksonville is as much of a shithole as it's team.
From a financial standpoint, I'd be thrilled.

New Jersey's income tax is 10.75% for income over $1m. Florida doesn't have an income tax.

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Post by Obviously » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:22 am

Pabst wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:08 pm
Obviously wrote:
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Yep nor play down to the level of their opponent.
You're kidding, right?

The Packers got blown out by the Vikings earlier this year, and they needed to come from behind to beat Jacksonville.

The Chiefs struggled mightily in both Raiders games, needed OT to get past the Chargers, and they trailed at halftime to both Denver and Carolina.
Nope I don't kid about the Tomlin-era Steelers, and I'm not just talking about 2020.
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Post by Ice » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:25 am

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:11 am
So if you're Trevor Lawrence, are you happy or sad now that JAX has the #1 pick? Or don't you care?

At least you could have lived the good life in NYC. Jacksonville is as much of a shithole as it's team.
Yeah, as NFL towns for rich twenty year olds go, Jacksonville is about the worst in the league. On the other hand, maybe he's a huge pro wrestling fan.

The income tax thing is a plus.
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Post by Jobu » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:26 am

Mahomes just got his clock cleaned...he’s not feeling to good right now.

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:26 am

Pabst wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:21 am
From a financial standpoint, I'd be thrilled.

New Jersey's income tax is 10.75% for income over $1m. Florida doesn't have an income tax.
Excellent point...beachfront house in FL, and spend the offseason in NYC
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Post by TTP » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:27 am

Oof, Mahomes just got crushed.

Kamara punches it in.

7 point game.

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Post by El Kabong » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:28 am

Seems like a defense with a good pass rush could have a good game vs. KC...
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Post by TTP » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:29 am

I just turned the game on. Brees is 9 for 26. WTF?

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Post by Pabst » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:29 am

Obviously wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:22 am
Pabst wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:08 pm
Obviously wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:00 pm
Yep nor play down to the level of their opponent.
You're kidding, right?

The Packers got blown out by the Vikings earlier this year, and they needed to come from behind to beat Jacksonville.

The Chiefs struggled mightily in both Raiders games, needed OT to get past the Chargers, and they trailed at halftime to both Denver and Carolina.
Nope I don't kid about the Tomlin-era Steelers, and I'm not just talking about 2020.
Every game referenced above is from this season. The Chiefs struggled big time vs. Denver 2 weeks ago.

The fell behind Miami 10-0 early in last weeks game. As we would say around here, they were "easing into it".

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Post by drmalba » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:30 am

COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:12 pm
I hate to say this, but the steelers cannot beat mahomes and the chiefs.

It looks like the steelers next SB is a decade away. And leveon will be getting a ring.
It really does look like Andy Reid is about two years ahead of where NFL defenses are at right now.

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Post by Pabst » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:30 am

El Kabong wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:28 am
Seems like a defense with a good pass rush could have a good game vs. KC...
See: Denver, Miami

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Post by Pabst » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:34 am

drmalba wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:30 am
COR-TEN wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:12 pm
I hate to say this, but the steelers cannot beat mahomes and the chiefs.

It looks like the steelers next SB is a decade away. And leveon will be getting a ring.
It really does look like Andy Reid is about two years ahead of where NFL defenses are at right now.
Having the best QB in the NFL at a $5 million cap hit certainly helps.

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