Weather Delay: Who REALLY benefits??

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Re: Weather Delay: Who REALLY benefits??

Post by Pabst » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:32 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:19 pm
Ok. Nice.
Worse part with this brutal weather is not being able to get those little one's running around and tiring out
You know....I never considered how confusing it could be for a toddler to learn what is/isn't OK to throw across the living room. We had a matchbox car fly disturbingly close to the TV yesterday.

On a positive note, Baby A has a cannon for an arm



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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:55 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:30 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:18 pm
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You could argue there have been games played in weather conditions that rival this. Like the Snow Plow game. But since 2010 games have been rescheduled or moved to different sites many times. Genie is out of the bottle on this. So the recent generation.. this is just how it is.
I'll maintain my old man yells at clouds routine for the moment.

It is how things are, and it isn't for the better. But it's getting worse every year and it has had what I'd consider to be some disastrous effects, but that would be straying too far from sports. A line I've already flirted with enough.
Better start shaking your fist at federal air traffic control bc I heard in a podcast the Steelers plane was not allowed to take off even to fly to the fucking airport.
It ironically landed safely at the airport right around what would have been in the middle of gametime yesterday, didn't it? It was yesterday afternoon that it landed.

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Post by beerbrother » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:57 pm

Still trying to shovel out the Bills stadium.

Supposedly just doing the aisles now and leaving snow in the seats.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:06 pm

beerbrother wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:57 pm
Still trying to shovel out the Bills stadium.

Supposedly just doing the aisles now and leaving snow in the seats.

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8 people shoveling not gonna cut it....
Hockel should have an army of immigrants thanking her for the free ride....by emptying out that stadium....

As long as the front 10 rows are available for steelers fans after the game....
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:12 pm

That Bills field is turf.. right?
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Post by beerbrother » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:17 pm

Yes, I think the field is turf.

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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:23 pm

I find it funny that all the evidence, the only thing people can cite for this being an emergency, is what government agencies and the governor have said. Nothing about the actual conditions on the ground which justify it.

Snow is pretty easy to measure in our modern world. Wind is measured. What were the actual conditions on the ground that made this game so different from the many others played during snowstorms? Because call me whatever you want, but I don't simply accept the word of the government on what is or isn't safe.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:24 pm

I seeing that their new stadium opening in 2026 will have a grass field...

But by then, the newly coined...
Increasing Atmospheric Thermalputics era will no longer see these 0 degrees and 24"-36" snow storms.

34 and Sunny in Baltimore next Sunday.
Go Steelers.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:25 pm

CK...
What was the final snow totals from yesterday?
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:27 pm

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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:35 pm

Yea, it was two feet of snow around the stadium. NFL games have been played in that. Right in the middle of that. Had a playoff game in Philly that saw 8 inches and much of it coming during the game.

But the snowiest game ever played was...in Buffalo. Very recently:
The snowiest game ever played was in 2017 when the Colts traveled to New York to take on the Bills on December 10. The snowstorm dropped more than 16″ of snow in Orchard Park, New York with eight to nine inches falling during the game. A rarely seen weather phenomenon known as “thundersnow” also aided in the snow piling up. The game was not stopped and the Bills won in overtime 13-7.
https://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/the-mo ... nfl-games/

The snow is not unprecedented.

The winds are not unprecedented and were the main reason cited by the state.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:36 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:55 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:30 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:18 pm


I'll maintain my old man yells at clouds routine for the moment.

It is how things are, and it isn't for the better. But it's getting worse every year and it has had what I'd consider to be some disastrous effects, but that would be straying too far from sports. A line I've already flirted with enough.
Better start shaking your fist at federal air traffic control bc I heard in a podcast the Steelers plane was not allowed to take off even to fly to the fucking airport.
It ironically landed safely at the airport right around what would have been in the middle of gametime yesterday, didn't it? It was yesterday afternoon that it landed.
Might be ironic, but it's not the point. If the plane was not cleared to leave to get the team in town early enough, the game was not happening. Air traffic control must be full of commies?
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:42 pm

beerbrother wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:57 pm
Still trying to shovel out the Bills stadium.

Supposedly just doing the aisles now and leaving snow in the seats.

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What kind of fucking bullshit is this ???

An NFL team can’t clear a few fucking inches of snow ????

Fuck Buffalo

Fuck Bills fans

They don’t deserve to win this game
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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:49 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:36 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:55 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:30 pm


Better start shaking your fist at federal air traffic control bc I heard in a podcast the Steelers plane was not allowed to take off even to fly to the fucking airport.
It ironically landed safely at the airport right around what would have been in the middle of gametime yesterday, didn't it? It was yesterday afternoon that it landed.
Might be ironic, but it's not the point. If the plane was not cleared to leave to get the team in town early enough, the game was not happening. Air traffic control must be full of commies?
The Steelers had been planning to leave earlier until the game was delayed. So, the Steelers physically getting there wasn't going to be the issue. They would have been in Buffalo longer than normal. This is typical with weather events and NFL teams. Flight plans change.

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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:55 pm

Also, Prof Lit - there was a travel ban in effect. This all cascaded down hill at the word of the governor. So citing one government entity to back up another? You kind of miss the point. But I'm not an expert on flying during snowstorms, regardless, and the history there. I do know the history of playing football games in inclement weather and nothing about this storm screams that it called for an unprecedented solution.

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/01/steel ... ter-storm/

The flight was only "slightly" delayed. Going back to what I said. The Steelers had been planning to fly into Buffalo earlier to be there for the game as scheduled, but it was delayed so they pushed the flight up. And then there was a slight delay. The Steelers of course weren't planning to fly to the game on Sunday. They would have been there all day Saturday.

The weather for today is still snow much of the day along with wind. The same shit as on Sunday.

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Post by Pabst » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:19 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:35 pm
The snow is not unprecedented.
The link you just posted said the record amount of snow for an NFL game is 16 inches.

Stosh's link said Orchard Park got 18 yesterday.

That would be, by definition, unprecedented.

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Post by Pabst » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:21 pm

Although of the argument is that they should have played because it kills any crowd involvement and offsets Buffalo's advantage on Offense, then yeah I can get behind that

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:31 pm

So we're the Steelers in Buffalo by Saturday?
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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:40 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:35 pm
Yea, it was two feet of snow around the stadium. NFL games have been played in that. Right in the middle of that. Had a playoff game in Philly that saw 8 inches and much of it coming during the game.

But the snowiest game ever played was...in Buffalo. Very recently:
The snowiest game ever played was in 2017 when the Colts traveled to New York to take on the Bills on December 10. The snowstorm dropped more than 16″ of snow in Orchard Park, New York with eight to nine inches falling during the game. A rarely seen weather phenomenon known as “thundersnow” also aided in the snow piling up. The game was not stopped and the Bills won in overtime 13-7.
https://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/the-mo ... nfl-games/

The snow is not unprecedented.

The winds are not unprecedented and were the main reason cited by the state.


Totally with you CK. It was a bullshit decision.

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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:41 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:31 pm
So we're the Steelers in Buffalo by Saturday?
yes had a snowplow escort

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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:54 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
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So we're the Steelers in Buffalo by Saturday?
No, because the game was postponed. Just like when covid happened and NFL teams changed their travel plans because games were pushed back and it's easier to fly later than to stay in the host city for an extra day or two. If the game was to be played on Sunday, the Steelers would have been there because it was entirely possible to be there by Saturday. Just like it was entirely possible for the Sabers to host a game Saturday night.

"More than 16 inches with 8-9 inches falling during the game"

That was in 2017. The worst of the storm would have passed BEFORE the Steelers and Bills played yesterday whereas the 2017 game was played in the thick of the storm.

But yes, cling to the notion that this was some unprecedented weather even that called for an unprecedented course of action by the governor. There's no actual evidence for it on the ground, but it aligns with certain people's politics to not question almighty government during a self-declared emergency.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:59 pm

I was hoping high winds at game time would benefit the Steelers. Seems like it’ll be a cold, clear day now.

Ah well, let’s shock the world and beat the brakes of the Bills!

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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:41 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:41 pm
Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:31 pm
So we're the Steelers in Buffalo by Saturday?
yes had a snowplow escort
sorry by sunday

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Post by Deebo » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:55 pm

Feel like the weather would have neutralized Allen's arm a bit. Now they likely have the entire playbook available to them.
Advantage Bills

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Post by 955876 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:55 pm

You simply can’t give a highly analytical coach like Jibbs who also excels at attacking an opponent’s weaknesses an extra day by to prepare.

Bills are fucked.

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