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Re: NFL Network: Steelers expected to hire Arthur Smith

Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:09 am

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Why isn't Art on a slope in Vail or somewhere drinking himself to an early grave like so many rich boys. A cousin of mine did that. Never worked a fuckin day in his life, and died early.

It's peculiar that he would go into something like the NFL with all the demands and visibility. Where is Coach with all his talk of lifting up the less fortunate, and so forth.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8jvfC5CGpA
His dad is 79 years old, and was the founder of FedEx if anyone didn’t know that, meaning Arthur Smith has fuck you money! His dad could end up dying and our new OC could buy the Steelers.

Arthur Smith is essentially a billionaire! Maybe we can land some weapons and help expand the NFL salary cap with some secret infusions of money!

His dad was a former marine and served in fucking Viet-Nam!

His grandfather started Greyhound bus company and left Fred a millionaire with a trust fund he could access when he was 21.

Apparently there was some trust fund shenanigans for which Fred was indicted for forgery, found innocent. Fred went on to found FedEx after graduating from Yale, Skull and Bones President, Vietnam Marine Captain with 2 tours, pilot, music studio founder.

However Arthur’s dad was knocked down a peg or 2 with 2 separate driving accidents in which someone was killed. Probably racing to deliver packages! Some insider trading allegations and corporate raider and bankrupter!

Has to be some good and bad daddy issues in that family of 10 children! Maybe we will get lucky and Arthur will come up with a new FedEx offense! His family has a proven track record of doing things differently! Buses, restaurants, music studios, and airplanes….maybe Arthur will make some luck!

Grab the popcorn. Arthur Smith, billionaire, born in a run down between third base and home plate, coaching in a blue collar city with a blue collar team. Yinzers will love Arthur!



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Post by langer » Wed Jan 31, 2024 10:59 am

What if they rename Heinz to FedEx Field?
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:30 pm

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What if they rename Heinz to FedEx Field?
Overheard in the locker room, Arthur Smith says to Dan Rooney, Duece’s son, so what offshore accounts do you use? Caymans? Oh yeah? I use the same bank. I am flying down to sign some papers next week. Me too. Do you want to take my jet or yours? I am so happy to meet you! We have so much to talk about and share! Did your dad put your money in a trust fund too? Those trust funds are the devil’s work!

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:15 pm

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I hadn't yet commented one way or the other on the possibility of Smith becoming our OC, because I see him a little differently then some here. I think he's an improvement over the shit Tomlin has hired, but he's definitely still a Tomlin guy -- through and through.

Tomlin buddied up with Smith (and Vrabel) ever since they handily beat the Ravens in the '19 playoffs. That win carried a lot of weight with Tomlin, imo. He saw the Titans with D-Henry go toe-to-toe and whip the Ravens -- something he likes doing more than anything. This is how we ended up with Najee, believe it or not. I've said it on here many times...Tomlin wants an O like the Titans/D-Henry prime O.

His new version of that will consist of Smith running a similar O scheme to what he did in TN (Henry) and ATL (various RBs). Tomlin is, unfortunately, cementing his boy Najee's future here, imo. It doesn't surprise me at all.

I hope Smith runs his stuff and not just what Tomlin tells him to. We will be ground and pound, but I think Smith will still be more innovative than anything we've had here in 4 years. Will he get D-Wash more involved in the passing game? I hope so.

It's not the top (McVay/Shanahan) OC I wanted, but it not as bad as some may think.

Btw, you can count on either Logan Woodside or Ryan Tannehill being in our QB room this year.

I do hope Munchak comes with him.
If you’re like me and firmly believe a major factor in the Steelers offense failing to score points and failing to do jack shit in the postseason is because they run too much, especially with no speed in the run game, it would be hard to imagine a worse hire unless he comes with a time machine than can take the NFL back to the early 90s. Arthur Smith’s last two ATL teams finish 1st and 3rd in rush attempts and only threw it the 27th most, despite trailing most of the season.

For comparison, the Steelers the last two years have rushed it 100 fewer times than the Falcons! How is that even possible?

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 pm

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Perfect opportunity to find a young, hungry OC with fresh ideas, but we go with the failed HC that had a good running game with Derrick Henry. We just will not take any risks as an organization from the owner's box to the field.
This reminds me of people trying to improve by working at what they do well instead of working at their weakest attributes. They hired a coach known for doing well what they already do reasonably well.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:25 pm

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its been telegraphed, so rooney wants a running team, we once we blocked it up right, we can run, but we need to pass first to set up the run

this freaking team
This organizational obsession with the running game has to stop. You just don't build a super bowl winning team that way anymore. When will they wake up to this realization?
probably when the NFL’s leading running back isn’t favored to win the superbowl would be a guess for when.
Christian mccaffery and Najee Harris are completely unrelated in football terms. Sure both are RBs, abut and F-150 and a Ferrari are both motor vehicles, too.

I’d like to see an F-150 run Ferrari plays in SF. It’d be a joke but hilarious.

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Post by PennyBacker » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:36 pm

Hiring Arthur Smith gives off the appearance that the Steelers are sticking to the bully ball plan. Good!

Three years ago they drafted Najee Harris. The past two off-seasons they have signed and drafted lineman in an effort to run the ball better. The Arthur Smith hire adds another link to the chain. If the former also results in the return of the best OL coach (Mike Munchak) which Pittsburgh has had in decades, also good.

It's encouraging that they have created a plan and look to be committed to it.

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Post by RemoAZ » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:26 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:15 pm
DP39 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:50 pm
I hadn't yet commented one way or the other on the possibility of Smith becoming our OC, because I see him a little differently then some here. I think he's an improvement over the shit Tomlin has hired, but he's definitely still a Tomlin guy -- through and through.

Tomlin buddied up with Smith (and Vrabel) ever since they handily beat the Ravens in the '19 playoffs. That win carried a lot of weight with Tomlin, imo. He saw the Titans with D-Henry go toe-to-toe and whip the Ravens -- something he likes doing more than anything. This is how we ended up with Najee, believe it or not. I've said it on here many times...Tomlin wants an O like the Titans/D-Henry prime O.

His new version of that will consist of Smith running a similar O scheme to what he did in TN (Henry) and ATL (various RBs). Tomlin is, unfortunately, cementing his boy Najee's future here, imo. It doesn't surprise me at all.

I hope Smith runs his stuff and not just what Tomlin tells him to. We will be ground and pound, but I think Smith will still be more innovative than anything we've had here in 4 years. Will he get D-Wash more involved in the passing game? I hope so.

It's not the top (McVay/Shanahan) OC I wanted, but it not as bad as some may think.

Btw, you can count on either Logan Woodside or Ryan Tannehill being in our QB room this year.

I do hope Munchak comes with him.
If you’re like me and firmly believe a major factor in the Steelers offense failing to score points and failing to do jack shit in the postseason is because they run too much, especially with no speed in the run game, it would be hard to imagine a worse hire unless he comes with a time machine than can take the NFL back to the early 90s. Arthur Smith’s last two ATL teams finish 1st and 3rd in rush attempts and only threw it the 27th most, despite trailing most of the season.

For comparison, the Steelers the last two years have rushed it 100 fewer times than the Falcons! How is that even possible?
Well it's easy to see why Tomlin hired this guy. Perfect OC for his standard, never had a losing season. Can't wait to get smoked in the first quarter in the first round next season.
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Post by Jobu » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:27 pm

If the former also results in the return of the best OL coach (Mike Munchak) which Pittsburgh has had in decades, also good.
I keep asking this question, but can’t seem to get an answer…yet I keep reading/hearing it over and over. Where is the notion that Mike Munchak could be returning simply due to Arthur Smith coming from?
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Post by Orangesteel » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:33 pm

Jobu wrote:
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If the former also results in the return of the best OL coach (Mike Munchak) which Pittsburgh has had in decades, also good.
I keep asking this question, but can’t seem to get an answer…yet I keep reading/hearing it over and over. Where is the notion that Mike Munchak could be returning simply due to Arthur Smith coming from?
It’s bullshit sports “reporting”. It’s some non-credentialed website (I think here Steelers Nation) saying he “could” be interested given Smith worked under MM when MM was HC of TEN.

Beyond that there is nothing to it. MM is only 63 though so another 5-7 years as a position coach doesn’t seem that outlandish, but who knows if he actually wants to get back in the game.
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Post by DP39 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:52 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:15 pm
DP39 wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:50 pm
I hadn't yet commented one way or the other on the possibility of Smith becoming our OC, because I see him a little differently then some here. I think he's an improvement over the shit Tomlin has hired, but he's definitely still a Tomlin guy -- through and through.

Tomlin buddied up with Smith (and Vrabel) ever since they handily beat the Ravens in the '19 playoffs. That win carried a lot of weight with Tomlin, imo. He saw the Titans with D-Henry go toe-to-toe and whip the Ravens -- something he likes doing more than anything. This is how we ended up with Najee, believe it or not. I've said it on here many times...Tomlin wants an O like the Titans/D-Henry prime O.

His new version of that will consist of Smith running a similar O scheme to what he did in TN (Henry) and ATL (various RBs). Tomlin is, unfortunately, cementing his boy Najee's future here, imo. It doesn't surprise me at all.

I hope Smith runs his stuff and not just what Tomlin tells him to. We will be ground and pound, but I think Smith will still be more innovative than anything we've had here in 4 years. Will he get D-Wash more involved in the passing game? I hope so.

It's not the top (McVay/Shanahan) OC I wanted, but it not as bad as some may think.

Btw, you can count on either Logan Woodside or Ryan Tannehill being in our QB room this year.

I do hope Munchak comes with him.
If you’re like me and firmly believe a major factor in the Steelers offense failing to score points and failing to do jack shit in the postseason is because they run too much, especially with no speed in the run game, it would be hard to imagine a worse hire unless he comes with a time machine than can take the NFL back to the early 90s. Arthur Smith’s last two ATL teams finish 1st and 3rd in rush attempts and only threw it the 27th most, despite trailing most of the season.

For comparison, the Steelers the last two years have rushed it 100 fewer times than the Falcons! How is that even possible?
I mostly agree. I give the hire a "C+ to B", especially considering out of what the interview options appeared to be. If MM comes in as the OL coach then I'd bump it up to a "B to B+".

Is it the modern offensive mind type you and I wanted? Certainly not. But, I do think AS (with MM) would certainly be better than the crap MT (and his yes men) has put on tape over the last 4 years. My hope is that AS is more motivated to be a HC again and won't just be a Tomlin "yes man". He strikes me as so. Is it perfect? No way! It's a little better than what I expected with MT in control, though. Smith is a plus as an OC, OL, and TE coach to what we had/have in those rooms, imo. MM would make things even better. I hope the "rumor/puzzle piece" has legs.

As long as MT & Deuce (somewhat following Mike's lead, imo) are running the shit show that's what we're gonna get. A couple of strong personalities like AS and hopefully MM would certainly be an improvement, though.

Am I completely happy about the hire? Hell no. But, I (and you, I'm sure) knew we weren't really gonna end up with some major modern offensive mind with MT in the picture anyway. It sucks, but we can't change it.

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Post by langer » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:00 pm

Getting lumbering Najee to run McCaffery plays would be hilarious. The SF linemen wold be standing around waiting for him to hit the hole. I'm sure it would confuse the D, they'd also be wondering what was taking him so long.

It would be like asking Andre the Giant to do a Superfly Snuka dive off the top rope. The guy would be laying there pretending he was hurt for fifteen minutes.
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Post by franco32 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:12 pm

B2B and I see exactly the same way. Running is today's NFL is great, but you have to be able to use the WHOLE field. You have to be able to get to the edge and find spaces to exploit. But, you need speed in order to do that.

Go back and watch the Buffalo game and how loaded the box was between the tackles. Our running game with Najee for the most part is a RUGBY SCRUM. Good NFL defenses will have an easy time with that.

The ONLY caveat in all of this is that Arthur Smith never had a real QB. Would he have had a more balanced O with a better QB? Maybe. But we aren't going to find that out here in Pittsburgh anytime soon unless we draft another QB and somehow hit a home run with this one.

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Post by Jobu » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:34 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:33 pm
Jobu wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:27 pm
If the former also results in the return of the best OL coach (Mike Munchak) which Pittsburgh has had in decades, also good.
I keep asking this question, but can’t seem to get an answer…yet I keep reading/hearing it over and over. Where is the notion that Mike Munchak could be returning simply due to Arthur Smith coming from?
It’s bullshit sports “reporting”. It’s some non-credentialed website (I think here Steelers Nation) saying he “could” be interested given Smith worked under MM when MM was HC of TEN.

Beyond that there is nothing to it. MM is only 63 though so another 5-7 years as a position coach doesn’t seem that outlandish, but who knows if he actually wants to get back in the game.
Thank you.
So there is no real meat to this rumor… just more fanboy blogger wishful thinking.
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Post by lifelongsteel » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:47 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 pm
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Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:41 pm
Perfect opportunity to find a young, hungry OC with fresh ideas, but we go with the failed HC that had a good running game with Derrick Henry. We just will not take any risks as an organization from the owner's box to the field.
This reminds me of people trying to improve by working at what they do well instead of working at their weakest attributes. They hired a coach known for doing well what they already do reasonably well.
Count me as one of those people. Building on your strengths is the best way to improve. Doing something reasonably well is worth very little. Be great at something and your weaknesses will matter a whole lot less.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:23 pm

Jobu wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:34 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:33 pm
Jobu wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:27 pm

I keep asking this question, but can’t seem to get an answer…yet I keep reading/hearing it over and over. Where is the notion that Mike Munchak could be returning simply due to Arthur Smith coming from?
It’s bullshit sports “reporting”. It’s some non-credentialed website (I think here Steelers Nation) saying he “could” be interested given Smith worked under MM when MM was HC of TEN.

Beyond that there is nothing to it. MM is only 63 though so another 5-7 years as a position coach doesn’t seem that outlandish, but who knows if he actually wants to get back in the game.
Thank you.
So there is no real meat to this rumor… just more fanboy blogger wishful thinking.
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:30 pm

back to Art's desire to take the air out of the football
Steelers owner Art Rooney II said the Steelers offense said Najee Harris and Jaylen Warren should be the “foundation” of the team’s offense.

Rooney said he was encouraged by strong finishes to the 2023 regular season for both Warren and Harris, as the Steelers determine whether to pick up Harris’ fifth-year option. “I really feel good about having a two-headed monster, if you will, at running back,” Rooney said after the Steelers hired former Falcons head coach Arthur Smith as offensive coordinator. “Two different style running backs, both very capable, and I think — with the right offensive line — can provide a real foundation for success going forward.” Smith, meanwhile, has orchestrated some of the run heaviest offensive schemes in the NFL over the past five years, both in Tennessee as an OC and in Atlanta, where the Falcons were third in rush EPA in 2022 before a catastrophic rushing performance in 2023. While making an OC hire based on two running backs — one of whom (Harris) is entering his age-26 season — is certainly a questionable move, Smith is sure to give hefty workloads to Harris and Warren in 2024.
Move on Art, give it to Danny
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Post by Jobu » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:31 pm

lifelongsteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:47 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 pm
StillerInCT wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:41 pm


Perfect opportunity to find a young, hungry OC with fresh ideas, but we go with the failed HC that had a good running game with Derrick Henry. We just will not take any risks as an organization from the owner's box to the field.
This reminds me of people trying to improve by working at what they do well instead of working at their weakest attributes. They hired a coach known for doing well what they already do reasonably well.
Count me as one of those people. Building on your strengths is the best way to improve. Doing something reasonably well is worth very little. Be great at something and your weaknesses will matter a whole lot less.
I can’t tell you how much I disagree. Having one strength and many weaknesses makes it so easy for the opponent to neutralize that strength and exploit the weakness.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:32 pm

lifelongsteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:47 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 pm
StillerInCT wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:41 pm


Perfect opportunity to find a young, hungry OC with fresh ideas, but we go with the failed HC that had a good running game with Derrick Henry. We just will not take any risks as an organization from the owner's box to the field.
This reminds me of people trying to improve by working at what they do well instead of working at their weakest attributes. They hired a coach known for doing well what they already do reasonably well.
Count me as one of those people. Building on your strengths is the best way to improve. Doing something reasonably well is worth very little. Be great at something and your weaknesses will matter a whole lot less.
If you have big biceps and pecs and only do bicep curls & bench press the rest of your life, believe me your weaknesses are going to matter when your core and back muscles can't keep up with the freakish imbalance in your body.

As a musician, if I only practice the stuff I'm good at, I can get away with playing exactly what I already do well, but I'm never going to get better.

If you're a golfer who is a great putter but have a loop in your swing and can't hit a sand shot to save your life, working on your putting is not going to improve your golf game.

Even if you are outstanding at part of let's say what you do for a living, improving the parts of your skills that trip you up or keep you from advancing or keep you from doing better work... that's how you improve.

To put this in Head Football Coach terms, if you're really good at motivating young men but your less-than-quality time management, game-planning, and offensive strategy holds you back, doubling down on what you're good at while ignoring the weaknesses of your job performance is going to result in the same shit over and over.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:36 pm

DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:30 pm
back to Art's desire to take the air out of the football
Steelers owner Art Rooney II said the Steelers offense said Najee Harris and Jaylen Warren should be the “foundation” of the team’s offense.

Rooney said he was encouraged by strong finishes to the 2023 regular season for both Warren and Harris, as the Steelers determine whether to pick up Harris’ fifth-year option. “I really feel good about having a two-headed monster, if you will, at running back,” Rooney said after the Steelers hired former Falcons head coach Arthur Smith as offensive coordinator. “Two different style running backs, both very capable, and I think — with the right offensive line — can provide a real foundation for success going forward.” Smith, meanwhile, has orchestrated some of the run heaviest offensive schemes in the NFL over the past five years, both in Tennessee as an OC and in Atlanta, where the Falcons were third in rush EPA in 2022 before a catastrophic rushing performance in 2023. While making an OC hire based on two running backs — one of whom (Harris) is entering his age-26 season — is certainly a questionable move, Smith is sure to give hefty workloads to Harris and Warren in 2024.
Move on Art, give it to Danny
This sounds so much like last year at this time:

Jan 2023: "Art Rooney says Steelers' strong second half is something to 'be encouraged about'"

"That strong second half was one of the reasons the team brought back Matt Canada as offensive coordinator.

"We saw the improvement in the offense, the improvement in Kenny," Rooney said. "And I think (coach Mike Tomlin) feels there's enough to build on there. Starting over you, you never know what you're gonna get if you start over again. And so we think there's enough to build on there."

Rooney said he was impressed by what he saw in Pickett's first season. The Pitt graduate started 12 games, tallying 2,404 yards passing and seven passing scores. Rooney highlighted Pickett's "mental toughness" near the end of the season when he led multiple game-winning drives.

"I like what we saw there in terms of key situations that he held us and finished the job," Rooney said. "And I think that was something that you never know, you don't know whether a quarterback can do that or not until he does it. So it was good to see that."

Rooney did say he expects backup quarterback Mitch Trubisky to be with the team next season.

"I expect Mitch will be on the roster next year and be an effective backup if we need him," he said. "I think he showed that he can be that. We can win with him.""

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Post by 955876 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:38 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:32 pm
lifelongsteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:47 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 pm


This reminds me of people trying to improve by working at what they do well instead of working at their weakest attributes. They hired a coach known for doing well what they already do reasonably well.
Count me as one of those people. Building on your strengths is the best way to improve. Doing something reasonably well is worth very little. Be great at something and your weaknesses will matter a whole lot less.
If you have big biceps and pecs and only do bicep curls & bench press the rest of your life, believe me your weaknesses are going to matter when your core and back muscles can't keep up with the freakish imbalance in your body.

As a musician, if I only practice the stuff I'm good at, I can get away with playing exactly what I already do well, but I'm never going to get better.

If you're a golfer who is a great putter but have a loop in your swing and can't hit a sand shot to save your life, working on your putting is not going to improve your golf game.

Even if you are outstanding at part of let's say what you do for a living, improving the parts of your skills that trip you up or keep you from advancing or keep you from doing better work... that's how you improve.

To put this in Head Football Coach terms, if you're really good at motivating young men but your less-than-quality time management, game-planning, and offensive strategy holds you back, doubling down on what you're good at while ignoring the weaknesses of your job performance is going to result in the same shit over and over.
Ding ding ding….
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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:50 pm

Rooney did say he expects backup quarterback Mitch Trubisky to be with the team next season.

"I expect Mitch will be on the roster next year and be an effective backup if we need him," he said. "I think he showed that he can be that. We can win with him."

Good lord. Maybe Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell can try out next summer at Latrobe. What do you have to do to unimpress the Deuce?
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:52 pm

Maybe Smith not good enough, but It's going to be way better than Fichtner and Canada.

Look, what was TN's offense doing when when LaFleur, current en vogue coach, was hired to be HC in GB from OC in TN? TN offense was horrible. Under Smith, they blew up.

Is it possible he sucks at HC but is good at OC?
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Post by Mick » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:03 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:52 pm
Maybe Smith not good enough, but It's going to be way better than Fichtner and Canada.

Look, what was TN's offense doing when when LaFleur, current en vogue coach, was hired to be HC in GB from OC in TN? TN offense was horrible. Under Smith, they blew up.

Is it possible he sucks at HC but is good at OC?
QB was a big factor. They were terrible with Mariota, then they brought in Tannehill and were really good. Then he goes to Atlanta and naturally brings in…Mariota.

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Post by lifelongsteel » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:04 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:32 pm
lifelongsteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:47 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 pm


This reminds me of people trying to improve by working at what they do well instead of working at their weakest attributes. They hired a coach known for doing well what they already do reasonably well.
Count me as one of those people. Building on your strengths is the best way to improve. Doing something reasonably well is worth very little. Be great at something and your weaknesses will matter a whole lot less.
If you have big biceps and pecs and only do bicep curls & bench press the rest of your life, believe me your weaknesses are going to matter when your core and back muscles can't keep up with the freakish imbalance in your body.

As a musician, if I only practice the stuff I'm good at, I can get away with playing exactly what I already do well, but I'm never going to get better.

If you're a golfer who is a great putter but have a loop in your swing and can't hit a sand shot to save your life, working on your putting is not going to improve your golf game.

Even if you are outstanding at part of let's say what you do for a living, improving the parts of your skills that trip you up or keep you from advancing or keep you from doing better work... that's how you improve.

To put this in Head Football Coach terms, if you're really good at motivating young men but your less-than-quality time management, game-planning, and offensive strategy holds you back, doubling down on what you're good at while ignoring the weaknesses of your job performance is going to result in the same shit over and over.
The most successful people in life are not well balanced, low floor types. Elon Musk has significant flaws and incredible strengths. He spends his time where he is at his best. He's not in therapy working on his empathy. I look at your Tomlin example differently. He should spend more time on motivation. Motivate your coaches to up their game planning instead of trying to be the game planner.

The most successful companies focus on their strengths. They ask where they can apply their strengths to perform better. Strong product companies work to get better at making products. They invest more money in people who can make great products. Sure, they need a good finance department, but their focus is going to be on the product people.

I would frame your music example differently. As a musician i'd rather be a great guitar player then an average guitar player who also can play the drums.

Sure, if you have a fatal weakness you have to fix it. But, once you've fixed the fatal flaws, your return on your energy is higher when you focus on your strengths.

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Post by jewelsongs » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:07 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:32 pm
lifelongsteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:47 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 pm


This reminds me of people trying to improve by working at what they do well instead of working at their weakest attributes. They hired a coach known for doing well what they already do reasonably well.
Count me as one of those people. Building on your strengths is the best way to improve. Doing something reasonably well is worth very little. Be great at something and your weaknesses will matter a whole lot less.
If you have big biceps and pecs and only do bicep curls & bench press the rest of your life, believe me your weaknesses are going to matter when your core and back muscles can't keep up with the freakish imbalance in your body.

As a musician, if I only practice the stuff I'm good at, I can get away with playing exactly what I already do well, but I'm never going to get better.

If you're a golfer who is a great putter but have a loop in your swing and can't hit a sand shot to save your life, working on your putting is not going to improve your golf game.

Even if you are outstanding at part of let's say what you do for a living, improving the parts of your skills that trip you up or keep you from advancing or keep you from doing better work... that's how you improve.

To put this in Head Football Coach terms, if you're really good at motivating young men but your less-than-quality time management, game-planning, and offensive strategy holds you back, doubling down on what you're good at while ignoring the weaknesses of your job performance is going to result in the same shit over and over.
There is a theory in business that you will never get good at things you are not naturally good at, so focus on what you are good at, and surround yourself with talent in the areas you are deficient. The question for the Steelers is has Tomlin hired someone who is good at what Mike is not, and will Tomlin allow him the authority to do it. I think Mason showed that our talent on offense could be much better used than Canada used it. Can Smith optimize it in a scheme that Rooney and Tomlin want, and that our roster was built to do. I hope the answer is yes.

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Post by sinceiwas4 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:28 pm

"Can Smith optimize it in a scheme that Rooney and Tomlin want, and that our roster was built to do. I hope the answer is yes."

the biggest thing that concerns me in this, is i read that Smith uses the same oline blocking schemes that the oline has struggled with the last 2 seasons to start. it hasnt been til we get down to the wire and have switched to a more power running block scheme that the line and Najee have "come to life"..i was surprised to see them trying again this last season to revert to what they had moved away from at the end of 2022. now i'm hoping they either can coach the schemes better so the guys they have become better at it, or that the new center and tackle (please god let it be true we get new blood there) are better suited to the preferred style, or both please!
also that Najee can adjust his game to be better at utilizing that line play as well.
in other words, i hope Smith either helps the oline coach teach and coach, or brings in a coach that can. cuz watching najee underperform the last cpl seasons until they switch it up and then see him play like we need him to be able to once they do switch has been some frustrating shit on repeat that fits that cliche' definition of insanity everyone loves spewing.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:46 pm

jewelsongs wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:07 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:32 pm
lifelongsteel wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:47 pm


Count me as one of those people. Building on your strengths is the best way to improve. Doing something reasonably well is worth very little. Be great at something and your weaknesses will matter a whole lot less.
If you have big biceps and pecs and only do bicep curls & bench press the rest of your life, believe me your weaknesses are going to matter when your core and back muscles can't keep up with the freakish imbalance in your body.

As a musician, if I only practice the stuff I'm good at, I can get away with playing exactly what I already do well, but I'm never going to get better.

If you're a golfer who is a great putter but have a loop in your swing and can't hit a sand shot to save your life, working on your putting is not going to improve your golf game.

Even if you are outstanding at part of let's say what you do for a living, improving the parts of your skills that trip you up or keep you from advancing or keep you from doing better work... that's how you improve.

To put this in Head Football Coach terms, if you're really good at motivating young men but your less-than-quality time management, game-planning, and offensive strategy holds you back, doubling down on what you're good at while ignoring the weaknesses of your job performance is going to result in the same shit over and over.
There is a theory in business that you will never get good at things you are not naturally good at, so focus on what you are good at, and surround yourself with talent in the areas you are deficient. The question for the Steelers is has Tomlin hired someone who is good at what Mike is not, and will Tomlin allow him the authority to do it. I think Mason showed that our talent on offense could be much better used than Canada used it. Can Smith optimize it in a scheme that Rooney and Tomlin want, and that our roster was built to do. I hope the answer is yes.
I think this theory is bullshit, unless you're talking about an established brand that's so big and powerful that it would take generations to kill it and you have no pressure nor desire to try to continue to be innovative.. If you aren't learning something every day-- even if it is learning what you don't know or don't do well, you're getting worse. And if you merely surround yourself with people who are good at things you're not, you can never effectively manage them-- you don't know what the hell they're talking about so they literally have to be CEO-level leaders to get anything done that's what you want to have happen.

Elon Musk is an asshole who has enough money to cover up whatever flaws he has and never fail too far. He doesn't need to become a better leader or better person to avoid losing money. In fact, I'll bet he could be in a come and still be printing money for the rest of his life.

Mike Tomlin, even with his unrivaled job security, could and should hire everyone to make him better in the areas in which he's lacking. Instead, he hires people worse than him or yes-men who think just like him. Hell, even the owner thinks just like him. They also teach theories in B School about the dangers of groupthink.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:26 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:36 pm
DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:30 pm
back to Art's desire to take the air out of the football
Steelers owner Art Rooney II said the Steelers offense said Najee Harris and Jaylen Warren should be the “foundation” of the team’s offense.

Rooney said he was encouraged by strong finishes to the 2023 regular season for both Warren and Harris, as the Steelers determine whether to pick up Harris’ fifth-year option. “I really feel good about having a two-headed monster, if you will, at running back,” Rooney said after the Steelers hired former Falcons head coach Arthur Smith as offensive coordinator. “Two different style running backs, both very capable, and I think — with the right offensive line — can provide a real foundation for success going forward.” Smith, meanwhile, has orchestrated some of the run heaviest offensive schemes in the NFL over the past five years, both in Tennessee as an OC and in Atlanta, where the Falcons were third in rush EPA in 2022 before a catastrophic rushing performance in 2023. While making an OC hire based on two running backs — one of whom (Harris) is entering his age-26 season — is certainly a questionable move, Smith is sure to give hefty workloads to Harris and Warren in 2024.
Move on Art, give it to Danny
This sounds so much like last year at this time:

Jan 2023: "Art Rooney says Steelers' strong second half is something to 'be encouraged about'"

"That strong second half was one of the reasons the team brought back Matt Canada as offensive coordinator.

"We saw the improvement in the offense, the improvement in Kenny," Rooney said. "And I think (coach Mike Tomlin) feels there's enough to build on there. Starting over you, you never know what you're gonna get if you start over again. And so we think there's enough to build on there."

Rooney said he was impressed by what he saw in Pickett's first season. The Pitt graduate started 12 games, tallying 2,404 yards passing and seven passing scores. Rooney highlighted Pickett's "mental toughness" near the end of the season when he led multiple game-winning drives.

"I like what we saw there in terms of key situations that he held us and finished the job," Rooney said. "And I think that was something that you never know, you don't know whether a quarterback can do that or not until he does it. So it was good to see that."

Rooney did say he expects backup quarterback Mitch Trubisky to be with the team next season.

"I expect Mitch will be on the roster next year and be an effective backup if we need him," he said. "I think he showed that he can be that. We can win with him.""

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news ... ged-about/
so we can expect an in-season firing for Tomlin!!! I'm hoping, and Joking!! :lol:
Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by jewelsongs » Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:28 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:46 pm
jewelsongs wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:07 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:32 pm

If you have big biceps and pecs and only do bicep curls & bench press the rest of your life, believe me your weaknesses are going to matter when your core and back muscles can't keep up with the freakish imbalance in your body.

As a musician, if I only practice the stuff I'm good at, I can get away with playing exactly what I already do well, but I'm never going to get better.

If you're a golfer who is a great putter but have a loop in your swing and can't hit a sand shot to save your life, working on your putting is not going to improve your golf game.

Even if you are outstanding at part of let's say what you do for a living, improving the parts of your skills that trip you up or keep you from advancing or keep you from doing better work... that's how you improve.

To put this in Head Football Coach terms, if you're really good at motivating young men but your less-than-quality time management, game-planning, and offensive strategy holds you back, doubling down on what you're good at while ignoring the weaknesses of your job performance is going to result in the same shit over and over.
There is a theory in business that you will never get good at things you are not naturally good at, so focus on what you are good at, and surround yourself with talent in the areas you are deficient. The question for the Steelers is has Tomlin hired someone who is good at what Mike is not, and will Tomlin allow him the authority to do it. I think Mason showed that our talent on offense could be much better used than Canada used it. Can Smith optimize it in a scheme that Rooney and Tomlin want, and that our roster was built to do. I hope the answer is yes.
I think this theory is bullshit, unless you're talking about an established brand that's so big and powerful that it would take generations to kill it and you have no pressure nor desire to try to continue to be innovative.. If you aren't learning something every day-- even if it is learning what you don't know or don't do well, you're getting worse. And if you merely surround yourself with people who are good at things you're not, you can never effectively manage them-- you don't know what the hell they're talking about so they literally have to be CEO-level leaders to get anything done that's what you want to have happen.

Elon Musk is an asshole who has enough money to cover up whatever flaws he has and never fail too far. He doesn't need to become a better leader or better person to avoid losing money. In fact, I'll bet he could be in a come and still be printing money for the rest of his life.

Mike Tomlin, even with his unrivaled job security, could and should hire everyone to make him better in the areas in which he's lacking. Instead, he hires people worse than him or yes-men who think just like him. Hell, even the owner thinks just like him. They also teach theories in B School about the dangers of groupthink.
B2B, let me use your examples. They are all about an individual trying to get better individually. Body builder, musician, golfer, etc. But I believe you are also a producer, which is much more like a head coach. You don't try to make the artist great at everything, you bring in studio musicians, engineers, programmers, etc to all help make the song the best it can be. That collaboration of strengths brings out the best in both the song and the artist. I was an executive for a major firm. We learned that the make up of any of our individual business units required a complete set of complimentary skills. The Vice Presidents who could orchestrate those skills did well. The ones who couldn't lost their jobs. That is the theory I described, and it definitely isn't bullshit. Isn't that what you do as a producer?

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