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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:42 pm
Crosby4Life wrote:franco32 wrote:Scobee to me is a huge huge upgrade. Field position is monumental when your Defense sucks like ours.
I dunno. From what I've seen from our defense so far this preseason, somehow I don't think it's going to make a difference whether the opposing team needs to go 80 yards or 70 yards to score a TD. The only difference might how long it takes the WR to run that extra 10 yards to get into the end zone.
the extra ten yards could cause a pulled hamstring...... might be worth it, idk. Its about time to trade ben and burn the place down.
this always seems to help
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:56 pm
Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:58 pm
GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
thank god
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:59 pm
GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
But who is working on it on the Steelers side? I thought this board already fired Colbert.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:00 pm
Honestly, if you'd have told me a month ago that we got Scobee for a 7th I'd a been like hell fucking yes. Huge upgrade to Suishy. Don't tell me the rest of you wouldn't have felt the same way.
The route it took to get him is wild (two hurt kickers) but the end result is we got better in the kicking game.
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by jeemie » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:00 pm
GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
This is good news only if a restructuring doesn't tie us to him for several years.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:01 pm
Pipes wrote:GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
But who is working on it on the Steelers side? I thought this board already fired Colbert.
Seems the members here may have spent 10 pages of hostility for nothing.
Why don't we wait until all the dust settles with this trade....
Besides, some of you have to get back to the farm and tend to the crops.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:03 pm
Jeemie wrote:GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
This is good news only if a restructuring doesn't tie us to him for several years.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:05 pm
GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
Oh wait so we're not spending $6M on kickers thereby dashing any hopes of the 2015 Steelers contending? Phew!
You guys should focus your energy on the real problems, like the defense. I'll continue to assume the D is just playing possum, waiting to unleash hell on September 10th.
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by Orangesteel » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:06 pm
Jeemie wrote:GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
This is good news only if a restructuring doesn't tie us to him for several years.
Kickers have weird shelf life, much longer if they keep that leg healthy. If Scobee is hear for another 2-3 years and wins us games I'm all for it.
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by Kodiak » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:11 pm
Jeemie wrote:This is good news only if a restructuring doesn't tie us to him for several years.
LMAO, good catch. This may only mean PIT isn't paying him THIS year. Although it could have been some sort of conditional "reverse" sign-and-trade deal - he knows he's being cut, agrees to terms with PIT and pretty much everyone wins with the deal. Just that it's the sort of outside-the-box creative deal that PIT has rarely, if ever, done.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:13 pm
I forget which poster here has the theory that the Steelers purposely have their kickers kick it short on kickoffs so as to create the opportunity for turnovers on the ensuing return. Maybe VanWilder...
In any case, if Scobee (can we call him Scooby?) starts kicking it to the 5 yard line then you're on to something.
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by jeemie » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:15 pm
Y-Town Steel wrote:You guys should focus your energy on the real problems, like the defense. I'll continue to assume the D is just playing possum, waiting to unleash hell on September 10th.
Hey- you've seen me on the Pirates' boards. You know I have the ability to multihate.
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by franco32 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:35 pm
Love the move even more if they can restructure. The Ratbirds have a huge edge on us that they exploit in close games with Tucker. Would be nice to close that gap.
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by tunch » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:42 pm
Y-Town Steel wrote:I forget which poster here has the theory that the Steelers purposely have their kickers kick it short on kickoffs so as to create the opportunity for turnovers on the ensuing return. Maybe VanWilder...
In any case, if Scobee (can we call him Scooby?) starts kicking it to the 5 yard line then you're on to something.
This would mean our coaches are retarded to the point that I would have to find a new team.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:50 pm
GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
LOLOL to all the bed wetters in this thread.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:52 pm
Of note: one small-framed guy stayed in the room, and the Garopolo comment made me cry.
This needs its own thread. Good to see you back, Lifelong!
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:56 pm
Is it possible they are signing Scobee to a multi-year deal. Lower his money for this year - and give him a chance to compete for the job next year by structuring the deal in a way where it doesn't cost them anything if he's cut?
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by lifelongsteel » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:57 pm
Y-Town Steel wrote: Of note: one small-framed guy stayed in the room, and the Garopolo comment made me cry.
This needs its own thread. Good to see you back, Lifelong!
Thanks Y-Town!
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:59 pm
JackSplat58 wrote:GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
LOLOL to all the bed wetters in this thread.
Yeah, a lot of knee-jerk over the top responses here that frankly should embarass people who made those over the top comments or simply just quoted them.
I still contend many of them would be back here complaining about the front office the first time the cheap replacement kicker that got cut from a one of those 4 or 5 other teams missed a kick for the Steelers. Double points if they would have mentioned Scobee by name as a guy the Steelers "should" have gotten.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:02 pm
Lifelongsteel wrote:Y-Town Steel wrote: Of note: one small-framed guy stayed in the room, and the Garopolo comment made me cry.
This needs its own thread. Good to see you back, Lifelong!
Thanks Y-Town!
tears in my eyes! good one!
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by Kodiak » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:06 pm
dropemjaybird wrote:Yeah, a lot of knee-jerk over the top responses here that frankly should embarass people who made those over the top comments or simply just quoted them.
You do realize restructuring is not necessarily a pay cut but usually just defers part of the cap hit to the following year?
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:22 pm
Y-Town Steel wrote: Of note: one small-framed guy stayed in the room, and the Garopolo comment made me cry.
This needs its own thread. Good to see you back, Lifelong!
Yeah, Garopolo will only throw for 400. Great line.
I actually felt sorry for Hitler at the end there.
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by drmalba » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:37 pm
Pipes wrote:GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
But who is working on it on the Steelers side? I thought this board already fired Colbert.
And my nominee for best anti-bedwetting post of the offseason goes to...
The somehow is the somehow
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by StillMadAtSlobber » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:30 pm
Jeemie wrote:GreekSteel wrote:Ray Fittipaldo @rayfitt1 · 3m3 minutes ago
Josh Scobee is restructuring his contract. The Steelers are not signing him for $3.4 million that he made in Jacksonville.
This is good news only if a restructuring doesn't tie us to him for several years.
I disagree (assuming an extension). It means Suisham is gone, which is a cause for celebration.
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by StillMadAtSlobber » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:33 pm
tunch wrote:Y-Town Steel wrote:I forget which poster here has the theory that the Steelers purposely have their kickers kick it short on kickoffs so as to create the opportunity for turnovers on the ensuing return. Maybe VanWilder...
In any case, if Scobee (can we call him Scooby?) starts kicking it to the 5 yard line then you're on to something.
This would mean our coaches are retarded to the point that I would have to find a new team.
Clearly you havent been watching the o-line prior to Munchak, or any games against bottom feeders the last 5 years.
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by Kodiak » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:34 pm
StillMadAtSlobber wrote:I disagree. It means Suisham is gone, which is a cause for celebration.
We don't know what it means until we see what it means. They could have tacked on a year for $9M, which means he's still a FA when he's cut but they'll spread the cap hit over 2 years. I don't know that you can do that technically, but something similar.
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by Legacy User » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:45 pm
Kodiak wrote:dropemjaybird wrote:Yeah, a lot of knee-jerk over the top responses here that frankly should embarass people who made those over the top comments or simply just quoted them.
You do realize restructuring is not necessarily a pay cut but usually just defers part of the cap hit to the following year?
Sure it could - which is why I'm not calling for everyone in the organization to be fired 3 minutes after learning the news. I understand that when your starting kicker that you just resigned goes down with an injury that ends his season - you are going to have to make a move and probably spend money if you want the position replaced by someone with experience. Fact is I think if everyone took a deep breath and considered the alternatives - in the end they would realize this was a move that needed to be done. While it sounds great - I don't think you go into the season as a playoff contender hoping that your kicker whose barely kicked in this league is a guy to rely on.
Some teams may be in a position to take that gamble, I don't think the Steelers are one of them.
