Disspelling the myth that Tomlin is the 2nd best coach in the NFL

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Matthias Hasselbeck

Who was no pud.

3 time Pro Bowler.

Hasselbeck led a team to a Super Bowl.

Compare him to Tim Tebow, Blake Bortles or AJ McCarron.

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In fairness to Mike Tomlin, had Jesse James’ catch been ruled a catch...

It wasn't a catch. He bobbled it as he went to the ground.

Even folks in the game thread (me included) knew we were fucked when that went to replay.

James fucked that up. Not the refs.

You need to watch that fucker again. He didn't bobble shit until the ball crossed the plain and made contact with the ground. The rule was altered because it was universally viewed as an unfair call.

Sorry, no catch and most of us in the game thread knew it would be overturned.

The big dumb fuckface bobbled it a little when he hit the ground.

That was a no no a few years back and folks with working brains knew it.

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In fairness to Mike Tomlin, had Jesse James’ catch been ruled a catch...

It wasn't a catch. He bobbled it as he went to the ground.

Even folks in the game thread (me included) knew we were fucked when that went to replay.

James fucked that up. Not the refs.

You need to watch that fucker again. He didn't bobble shit until the ball crossed the plain and made contact with the ground. The rule was altered because it was universally viewed as an unfair call.

Yeah. I'm with you on that. I watched it from an airplane seat waiting for my flight to take off. When they called it up for review, I knew the steelers were fucked and subject to more Patriot bullshit.

[alancac98]

It wasn't a catch. He bobbled it as he went to the ground.

Even folks in the game thread (me included) knew we were fucked when that went to replay.

James fucked that up. Not the refs.

You need to watch that fucker again. He didn't bobble shit until the ball crossed the plain and made contact with the ground. The rule was altered because it was universally viewed as an unfair call.

That is essentially correct. But after 5 years of that known fault with the rule when you go to the ground, James fucked up by not finishing the catch and trying to score.

He turned a catch into a non-catch. Fucking period.

Yep, after the ball crossed the line he should have spiked the damn thing to the ground, gotten up, beat his chest like Tarzan and ran to the seats and jumped in. The idiotic refs would have signaled touchdown. A review would have seen the ball cross the goal line and a celebration take place directly after. It would have been a non issue as the ball had crossed the line. spiking the ball would have negated the fact of controlling it the whole way to the ground. (At least I would assume)

[El Kabong]

Matthias Hasselbeck

Who was no pud.

3 time Pro Bowler.

Hasselbeck led a team to a Super Bowl.

Compare him to Tim Tebow, Blake Bortles or AJ McCarron.

If Tomlin lost a playoff game to a 7-9 team, I don't care if Joe Montana was qb'ing that team, I doubt anyone here would be happy about it.

[El Kabong]

Hey El Kabong, talk about how things are looking at present.

Payton NFC Championship game last season where his Saints got FUCKED out of a Super Bowl and this year where many have them ranked as the best team in the NFL, despite losing their franchise QB for an extended period.

Dumblin?

How’s your boy doin’?

My actual point is that if Tomlin had had Payton's exact same results over these years, he'd have been getting destroyed here. Sure, Payton may well be a good coach and better than Tomlin. Which only goes to show that even a good coach with a franchise QB can have a bad stretch, and having a bad stretch doesn't mean a coach can't still rebuild and compete.

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It wasn't a catch. He bobbled it as he went to the ground.

Even folks in the game thread (me included) knew we were fucked when that went to replay.

James fucked that up. Not the refs.

You need to watch that fucker again. He didn't bobble shit until the ball crossed the plain and made contact with the ground. The rule was altered because it was universally viewed as an unfair call.

Sorry, no catch and most of us in the game thread knew it would be overturned.

The big dumb fuckface bobbled it a little when he hit the ground.

That was a no no a few years back and folks with working brains knew it.

So you agree you were wrong about him bobbling as it went to the ground. Ok. Kewl

[SteelerDayTrader]

^^^^^

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So you agree you were wrong about him bobbling as it went to the ground. Ok. Kewl

Look at this way, in your fantasies, the Steelers win and James didn’t fuck up the entire season.

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Hey El Kabong, talk about how things are looking at present.

Payton NFC Championship game last season where his Saints got FUCKED out of a Super Bowl and this year where many have them ranked as the best team in the NFL, despite losing their franchise QB for an extended period.

Dumblin?

How’s your boy doin’?

My actual point is that if Tomlin had had Payton's exact same results over these years, he'd have been getting destroyed here. Sure, Payton may well be a good coach and better than Tomlin. Which only goes to show that even a good coach with a franchise QB can have a bad stretch, and having a bad stretch doesn't mean a coach can't still rebuild and compete.

Answer the question.

How’re things goin’ for both coaches at present?

And you’re saying that Dumblin’s “rebuilding” now?

Why, because no Ben?

Did New Orleans start rebuilding without Brees?

Fuck, they’ve looked just as good or better without Brees.

[Steelafan77]

Yeah it is certainly a surprise to see Bridgewater going undefeated since starting in place of Brees. Very fortunate for the Saints.

[El Kabong]

Hey El Kabong, talk about how things are looking at present.

Payton NFC Championship game last season where his Saints got FUCKED out of a Super Bowl and this year where many have them ranked as the best team in the NFL, despite losing their franchise QB for an extended period.

Dumblin?

How’s your boy doin’?

My actual point is that if Tomlin had had Payton's exact same results over these years, he'd have been getting destroyed here. Sure, Payton may well be a good coach and better than Tomlin. Which only goes to show that even a good coach with a franchise QB can have a bad stretch, and having a bad stretch doesn't mean a coach can't still rebuild and compete.

Answer the question.

How’re things goin’ for both coaches at present?

And you’re saying that Dumblin’s “rebuilding” now?

Why, because no Ben?

Did New Orleans start rebuilding without Brees?

Fuck, they’ve looked just as good or better without Brees.

Payton had a long bad stretch and needed to rebuild to get to where he is now even while having a franchise quarterback. Tomlin could do the same.

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My actual point is that if Tomlin had had Payton's exact same results over these years, he'd have been getting destroyed here. Sure, Payton may well be a good coach and better than Tomlin. Which only goes to show that even a good coach with a franchise QB can have a bad stretch, and having a bad stretch doesn't mean a coach can't still rebuild and compete.

Answer the question.

How’re things goin’ for both coaches at present?

And you’re saying that Dumblin’s “rebuilding” now?

Why, because no Ben?

Did New Orleans start rebuilding without Brees?

Fuck, they’ve looked just as good or better without Brees.

Payton had a long bad stretch and needed to rebuild to get to where he is now even while having a franchise quarterback. Tomlin could do the same.

Let me reiterate.

Mike Dumblin hasn't won a Super Bowl in 12 fucking years.

He hasn't been to a Super Bowl in a fucking decade.

Since then, he's lost to Tim Tebow in the playoffs. Baseball player Tim Tebow. Blake Bortles came into Heinz Field in the postseason and BEAT THE LIVING SHIT out of Dumblin's Steelers. AJ McCarron had Dumblin beat until Vontaze Burfict, all by himself and with zero help from the Steelers, allowed the Steelers to escape WITH UNBELIEVABLE LUCK with a win. Luck. Nothing more.

Dumblin enabled MC Hammer Jr.'s bad behavior with different rules for different players. He's gone. It's common knowledge the locker room the last several years has been a sewer.

...and its Payton who went thru a bad stretch and had to rebuild.

[El Kabong]

Answer the question.

How’re things goin’ for both coaches at present?

And you’re saying that Dumblin’s “rebuilding” now?

Why, because no Ben?

Did New Orleans start rebuilding without Brees?

Fuck, they’ve looked just as good or better without Brees.

Payton had a long bad stretch and needed to rebuild to get to where he is now even while having a franchise quarterback. Tomlin could do the same.

Let me reiterate.

Mike Dumblin hasn't won a Super Bowl in 12 fucking years.

He hasn't been to a Super Bowl in a fucking decade.

Since then, he's lost to Tim Tebow in the playoffs. Baseball player Tim Tebow. Blake Bortles came into Heinz Field in the postseason and BEAT THE LIVING SHIT out of Dumblin's Steelers. AJ McCarron had Dumblin beat until Vontaze Burfict, all by himself and with zero help from the Steelers, allowed the Steelers to escape WITH UNBELIEVABLE LUCK with a win. Luck. Nothing more.

Dumblin enabled MC Hammer Jr.'s bad behavior with different rules for different players. He's gone. It's common knowledge the locker room the last several years has been a sewer.

...and its Payton who went thru a bad stretch and had to rebuild.

Payton DID go through a bad stretch! 7-9 FOUR TIMES since his last super bowl appearance with a franchise quarterback! Losing a playoff game to a 7-9 team! This site would kill Tomlin for that and you know it. Tomlin gets ripped for only three playoff wins since his last super bowl appearance. Payton has had four in that time. Not much better.

Tomlin's loss to Tebow balances Payton's loss to a 7-9 team. You like to focus on the quarterbacks exclusively, but that Bortles-led Jags team was pretty good. It wasn't Bortles who beat the shit out of the Steelers, it was the Jags run game. And I will continue to argue with those that say the win over the Bengals was luck.

1. We were screwed out of a fumble return TD by Shazier. Lucky for the Bengals.
2. We had the ball at the Bengal 47 with 22 seconds on the clock, time enough for Ben to complete one or more passes into field goal range and for Boz to kick the game winner. I do not concede the Steelers would have lost without the Bengals' penalties.

Maybe Tomlin mishandled AB. Maybe there was no way to handle AB. We will never know.

[El Kabong]

I just looked it up and saw that Payton lost a playoff game to the mighty Case Keenum. Uh huh.

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I just looked it up and saw that Payton lost a playoff game to the mighty Case Keenum. Uh huh.

Are you Poltergyst?

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Payton DID go through a bad stretch! 7-9 FOUR TIMES since his last super bowl appearance with a franchise quarterback! Losing a playoff game to a 7-9 team! This site would kill Tomlin for that and you know it. Tomlin gets ripped for only three playoff wins since his last super bowl appearance. Payton has had four in that time. Not much better.

Tomlin's loss to Tebow balances Payton's loss to a 7-9 team. You like to focus on the quarterbacks exclusively, but that Bortles-led Jags team was pretty good. It wasn't Bortles who beat the shit out of the Steelers, it was the Jags run game. And I will continue to argue with those that say the win over the Bengals was luck.

1. We were screwed out of a fumble return TD by Shazier. Lucky for the Bengals.
2. We had the ball at the Bengal 47 with 22 seconds on the clock, time enough for Ben to complete one or more passes into field goal range and for Boz to kick the game winner. I do not concede the Steelers would have lost without the Bengals' penalties.

Maybe Tomlin mishandled AB. Maybe there was no way to handle AB. We will never know.

Bortles came up HUGE for the Jags in that game (remember, Fournette left in the second quarter of that game, injured). Here's a nice comment about Bortles game:

"Quarterback Blake Bortles, who rushed for more yards last week (88) against the Bills than he threw for (87), converted key third downs in the fourth quarter, made smart decisions and helped keep the Steelers at a distance".

So no.....it wasn't just the Jags running game.

Believe what you want about the ending to the Bungles game, but Burfict gave the Steelers 30 penalty yards (all on his own stupidity) and you forgot one major issue: Ben Roethlisberger left in the 3rd quarter with a sprained AC joint and literally told the coaches he couldn't throw the ball downfield. AT ALL. So dude....c'mon.

[El Kabong]

Payton DID go through a bad stretch! 7-9 FOUR TIMES since his last super bowl appearance with a franchise quarterback! Losing a playoff game to a 7-9 team! This site would kill Tomlin for that and you know it. Tomlin gets ripped for only three playoff wins since his last super bowl appearance. Payton has had four in that time. Not much better.

Tomlin's loss to Tebow balances Payton's loss to a 7-9 team. You like to focus on the quarterbacks exclusively, but that Bortles-led Jags team was pretty good. It wasn't Bortles who beat the shit out of the Steelers, it was the Jags run game. And I will continue to argue with those that say the win over the Bengals was luck.

1. We were screwed out of a fumble return TD by Shazier. Lucky for the Bengals.
2. We had the ball at the Bengal 47 with 22 seconds on the clock, time enough for Ben to complete one or more passes into field goal range and for Boz to kick the game winner. I do not concede the Steelers would have lost without the Bengals' penalties.

Maybe Tomlin mishandled AB. Maybe there was no way to handle AB. We will never know.

Bortles came up HUGE for the Jags in that game (remember, Fournette left in the second quarter of that game, injured). Here's a nice comment about Bortles game:

"Quarterback Blake Bortles, who rushed for more yards last week (88) against the Bills than he threw for (87), converted key third downs in the fourth quarter, made smart decisions and helped keep the Steelers at a distance".

So no.....it wasn't just the Jags running game.

Believe what you want about the ending to the Bungles game, but Burfict gave the Steelers 30 penalty yards (all on his own stupidity) and you forgot one major issue: Ben Roethlisberger left in the 3rd quarter with a sprained AC joint and literally told the coaches he couldn't throw the ball downfield. AT ALL. So dude....c'mon.

How far did the pass travel that Burfict leveled AB on? Ben needed like 17 yards to get into FG range. He could have done that.

[El Kabong]

I just looked it up and saw that Payton lost a playoff game to the mighty Case Keenum. Uh huh.

Are you Poltergyst?

Boo!

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Payton DID go through a bad stretch! 7-9 FOUR TIMES since his last super bowl appearance with a franchise quarterback! Losing a playoff game to a 7-9 team! This site would kill Tomlin for that and you know it. Tomlin gets ripped for only three playoff wins since his last super bowl appearance. Payton has had four in that time. Not much better.

Tomlin's loss to Tebow balances Payton's loss to a 7-9 team. You like to focus on the quarterbacks exclusively, but that Bortles-led Jags team was pretty good. It wasn't Bortles who beat the shit out of the Steelers, it was the Jags run game. And I will continue to argue with those that say the win over the Bengals was luck.

1. We were screwed out of a fumble return TD by Shazier. Lucky for the Bengals.
2. We had the ball at the Bengal 47 with 22 seconds on the clock, time enough for Ben to complete one or more passes into field goal range and for Boz to kick the game winner. I do not concede the Steelers would have lost without the Bengals' penalties.

Maybe Tomlin mishandled AB. Maybe there was no way to handle AB. We will never know.

Bortles came up HUGE for the Jags in that game (remember, Fournette left in the second quarter of that game, injured). Here's a nice comment about Bortles game:

"Quarterback Blake Bortles, who rushed for more yards last week (88) against the Bills than he threw for (87), converted key third downs in the fourth quarter, made smart decisions and helped keep the Steelers at a distance".

So no.....it wasn't just the Jags running game.

Believe what you want about the ending to the Bungles game, but Burfict gave the Steelers 30 penalty yards (all on his own stupidity) and you forgot one major issue: Ben Roethlisberger left in the 3rd quarter with a sprained AC joint and literally told the coaches he couldn't throw the ball downfield. AT ALL. So dude....c'mon.

How far did the pass travel that Burfict leveled AB on? Ben needed like 17 yards to get into FG range. He could have done that.

Burfict handed the Steelers that game.

You can disagree and keep reaching, but Dumblin should have lost to AJ McCarron.

.....and it wouldn't have surprised anybody.

Well, it might have surprised you I guess.

[El Kabong]

Bortles came up HUGE for the Jags in that game (remember, Fournette left in the second quarter of that game, injured). Here's a nice comment about Bortles game:

"Quarterback Blake Bortles, who rushed for more yards last week (88) against the Bills than he threw for (87), converted key third downs in the fourth quarter, made smart decisions and helped keep the Steelers at a distance".

So no.....it wasn't just the Jags running game.

Believe what you want about the ending to the Bungles game, but Burfict gave the Steelers 30 penalty yards (all on his own stupidity) and you forgot one major issue: Ben Roethlisberger left in the 3rd quarter with a sprained AC joint and literally told the coaches he couldn't throw the ball downfield. AT ALL. So dude....c'mon.

How far did the pass travel that Burfict leveled AB on? Ben needed like 17 yards to get into FG range. He could have done that.

Burfict handed the Steelers that game.

You can disagree and keep reaching, but Dumblin should have lost to AJ McCarron.

.....and it wouldn't have surprised anybody.

Well, it might have surprised you I guess.

The Steelers started that drive at their 9 yard line, but Ben Roethlisberger, injured or no, couldn't have picked up another 17 yards in 22 seconds? Okay.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Tomlin might not be the "best" coach in the NFL but he does deserve some credit for keeping this season alive. This might even turn out to be his best coaching effort in his career. If he gets this team to the playoffs I'm sure he would be considered for coach of the year.
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