Ben's ankle

[Orangesteel]

Hey Malba, are you insinuating I am lying about the basketball game? The thread was meant to shed some levity during a playoff week, but the story itself is 100 percent true.

But, if you are calling me a liar, go fuck yourself and fuck the Capitals while I'm at it. Can't believe you root for that dogshit hockey team.

[Suwanee88]

Hey Malba, are you insinuating I am lying about the basketball game? The thread was meant to shed some levity during a playoff week, but the story itself is 100 percent true.

But, if you are calling me a liar, go fuck yourself and fuck the Capitals while I'm at it. Can't believe you root for that dogshit hockey team.

[Legacy User]

Reading thru this thread it has become obviously clear. This board isn't "happy" unless there is something to bitch about. Someone mentioned overreaction. That's an understatement.

Should he have been out. Yes. Was he? No. Is he fine? By all accounts, yes. Move on.

For everyone unhappy about 1 playoff win in 5 yrs, enjoy #2. Everyone just breathe and enjoy it.

Ben leaves the game in a boot after taking a needless hit when the game was out of hand. It's not overreacting or bitching for the sake of bitching for people to be pissed. Frankly, I'm not convinced that Ben's fine. We'll see how things stand Wednesday or Thursday. But Tomlin has a history of leaving in his indispensible players when he shouldn't, them getting hurt as a result, and the Steelers pissing away a chance at a Super Bowl. If Ben can't practice this week, if he comes into KC gimpy and plays a classic "Injured Ben" shitfest of a game, then that's just another opportunity wasted to arrogance and stupidity.

He does? Who? When? I would say it's more of a history of bringing Ben back too early. Probably a history of taking unnecessary risks by leaving star players in late in games. When did it ever cost us a chance at the Super Bowl? When?

[Legacy User]

Precautionary...my bigger concern:
Tony Gonzales said it at the end of the Steelers game today.
Andy Reid is 16-2 after the Bye Week in the Regular Season and 3-0 after bye week in playoffs.......

[Legacy User]

I agree that Ben shouldn't have been in there and I hate when Tomlin does that but, please STOP making shit up! It's never cost us a chance at the Super Bowl. That's just fucking nonsense.

[Legacy User]

Precautionary...my bigger concern:
Tony Gonzales said it at the end of the Steelers game today.
Andy Reid is 16-2 after the Bye Week in the Regular Season and 3-0 after bye week in playoffs.......

Fuck Andy Reid and his big fat cunt!

[Legacy User]

It is going to take everything that offense has to score fast and often in order to win that game. The defense is too inconsistent to rely on. ST's is an embarrassment. Score fast and often consistently and a win is usually eminent.

Isn't this the truth. 2 1/2 hours after a dominating playoff victory board has 3 new threads, this one so everyone can bitch a Tomlin, which is fine, mustache should have been in the game, a thread about Tuitt and Hargrave, and a thread about Matt fucking Moore. No one has started a thread yet to praise the coaches for having a good plan and a team that looked well prepared.

It is a little surprising to me there's not more happiness going on. I guess in everyone's mind this win was such a foregone conclusion that there's no celebrating afterward?

[drmalba]

Hey Malba, are you insinuating I am lying about the basketball game? The thread was meant to shed some levity during a playoff week, but the story itself is 100 percent true.

But, if you are calling me a liar, go fuck yourself and fuck the Capitals while I'm at it. Can't believe you root for that dogshit hockey team.

Great...
I brought it up because the debate in that thread about whether or not Bell should be doing anything like that in his time off, rather than who the OP was.
I recalled it was friend-of-a-friend type report, if that's inacurrate sorry to bust your balls about it.

That said, I wouldn't care if you were lying, and I don't give one fuck what you think about me. Are we cool now? Our team just won.

[randomsteelerfan]

The team looked great, initial offensive game plan was fantastic, and it was the best defensive effort I've seen from this unit in probably years.

Kudos to the coaches for having this guys ready to roll. But the end game here, SteelerDownSouth, is a ring. Ben shouldn't have been in the game.

But an fantastic game today. Esp in frigid temps.

+1. Great game.

[W&M_Steeler]

Reading thru this thread it has become obviously clear. This board isn't "happy" unless there is something to bitch about. Someone mentioned overreaction. That's an understatement.

Should he have been out. Yes. Was he? No. Is he fine? By all accounts, yes. Move on.

For everyone unhappy about 1 playoff win in 5 yrs, enjoy #2. Everyone just breathe and enjoy it.

Ben leaves the game in a boot after taking a needless hit when the game was out of hand. It's not overreacting or bitching for the sake of bitching for people to be pissed. Frankly, I'm not convinced that Ben's fine. We'll see how things stand Wednesday or Thursday. But Tomlin has a history of leaving in his indispensible players when he shouldn't, them getting hurt as a result, and the Steelers pissing away a chance at a Super Bowl. If Ben can't practice this week, if he comes into KC gimpy and plays a classic "Injured Ben" shitfest of a game, then that's just another opportunity wasted to arrogance and stupidity.

He does? Who? When? I would say it's more of a history of bringing Ben back too early. Probably a history of taking unnecessary risks by leaving star players in late in games. When did it ever cost us a chance at the Super Bowl? When?

Bell against the Bengals week 17 two years ago (which compounded his indefensible error of cutting Blount without ever finding a back-up for Bell), leaving us to start the playoffs game against the Ravens with Ben Tate (someone who we signed off the street a few days before the game). Last year with Deangelo Williams versus the Browns week 17, leaving us to go into the playoffs with Touissant and Todman, neither of whom had significant carries during the season (mainly due to the refusal to rotate backs during games). Now we finally come into the playoffs with our key players healthy, so we needlessy risk Ben with the game out of hand.

[Orangesteel]

Hey Malba, are you insinuating I am lying about the basketball game? The thread was meant to shed some levity during a playoff week, but the story itself is 100 percent true.

But, if you are calling me a liar, go fuck yourself and fuck the Capitals while I'm at it. Can't believe you root for that dogshit hockey team.

Great...
I brought it up because the debate in that thread about whether or not Bell should be doing anything like that in his time off, rather than who the OP was.
I recalled it was friend-of-a-friend type report, if that's inacurrate sorry to bust your balls about it.

That said, I wouldn't care if you were lying, and I don't give one fuck what you think about me. Are we cool now? Our team just won.

Yes, we are cool. But this isn't a "friend of a friend" type story. This is my first cousin who I grew up with and still am close with to this day. He lives in Wexford; Bell lives in Gibsonia. Bell has a membership to the same gym and my cousin sees him in there playing hoop. My point is none of the story is fabricated.

But no harm meant. Go Steelers. Go Pens.

[steelmann58]

it time the reid losses a game at home after a bye. I sorry but if your leaving Ben in at that point all the calls should be handoffs

[COS]

Precautionary...my bigger concern:
Tony Gonzales said it at the end of the Steelers game today.
Andy Reid is 16-2 after the Bye Week in the Regular Season and 3-0 after bye week in playoffs.......

At the same time, there's no coach I trust to fuck up more in a big spot than Andy Reid. He makes Tomlin seem like a master of all time and space

[W&M_Steeler]

I agree that Ben shouldn't have been in there and I hate when Tomlin does that but, please STOP making shit up! It's never cost us a chance at the Super Bowl. That's just fucking nonsense.

We've had two playoff runs in a row spoiled by RB injuries in week 17, injuries that combined in-game personnel decisions with questionable roster decisions. In2014 we started Ben Tate in the playoffs because the Tomlin & co never signed a Bell back-up and insisted to run Bell's wheels off; in 2015 we fielding an offense with utterly green Fitz and Todman because Tomlin and co. insisted on running Williams' wheels off and never gave his back-ups carries during the regular season. Getting Ben injured for no reason in the Wild Card round would fall into the same category.

[steelmann58]

I still cant see why Ben is in there absoulte no fucking reason to have him the game . Even if you leave him for some reason he has only one job hand the fucking ball off.

[randomsteelerfan]

Bell against the Bengals week 17 two years ago (which compounded his indefensible error of cutting Blount without ever finding a back-up for Bell), leaving us to start the playoffs game against the Ravens with Ben Tate (someone who we signed off the street a few days before the game). Last year with Deangelo Williams versus the Browns week 17, leaving us to go into the playoffs with Touissant and Todman, neither of whom had significant carries during the season (mainly due to the refusal to rotate backs during games). Now we finally come into the playoffs with our key players healthy, so we needlessy risk Ben with the game out of hand.

This is tackle football, remember? Are you really going to blame Tomlin for every injury that occurs? What role did Tomlin have in Pouncy being IRd last year? How about 2010 when Pouncys ankle forced us to trot The Big Legursky and cost us the SB? Damn Tomlin. Where does it stop?

Should he have been out? I woulda taken him out. But I'm not the coach. Still doesn't bother me.

How about being pissed at Ben for not realizing he's the Franchise and needs to smarten up and not take unnecessary risks there? Nobody's blaming Ben. I'd blame Ben before I'd chastise Tomlin.

[Kodiak]

How about being pissed at Ben for not realizing he's the Franchise and needs to smarten up and not take unnecessary risks there? Nobody's blaming Ben. I'd blame Ben before I'd chastise Tomlin.

Many people have said Ben is an idiot. I agree. I also agree he's a known idiot, and it's the job of Head Idiot to protect Ben from himself at times.

[steelmann58]

I still cant see why Ben is in there absoulte no fucking reason to have him the game . Even if you leave him for some reason he has only one job hand the fucking ball off.

[W&M_Steeler]

Bell against the Bengals week 17 two years ago (which compounded his indefensible error of cutting Blount without ever finding a back-up for Bell), leaving us to start the playoffs game against the Ravens with Ben Tate (someone who we signed off the street a few days before the game). Last year with Deangelo Williams versus the Browns week 17, leaving us to go into the playoffs with Touissant and Todman, neither of whom had significant carries during the season (mainly due to the refusal to rotate backs during games). Now we finally come into the playoffs with our key players healthy, so we needlessy risk Ben with the game out of hand.

This is tackle football, remember? Are you really going to blame Tomlin for every injury that occurs? What role did Tomlin have in Pouncy being IRd last year? How about 2010 when Pouncys ankle forced us to trot The Big Legursky and cost us the SB? Damn Tomlin. Where does it stop?

Should he have been out? I woulda taken him out. But I'm not the coach. Still doesn't bother me.

How about being pissed at Ben for not realizing he's the Franchise and needs to smarten up and not take unnecessary risks there? Nobody's blaming Ben. I'd blame Ben before I'd chastise Tomlin.

If Ben's injured, then I'm pissed at both of them. As for your straw man argument, of course there's always inherent risk in playing, which needs to be weighed against the potential benefit of having a player play. So Pouncey's AFCC injury was just an unfortunate outcome of a violent game, but not a needless risk. Similarly, If Ben would have been injured while the game was still in doubt, then I would have been disappointed, but not pissed at either of them. But there are times where the potential risk of injury outweighs the potential benefit of having a player play. Ben, Bell, and Brown in the mid 4th quarter today are great examples.

[JackLambert58]

It is going to take everything that offense has to score fast and often in order to win that game. The defense is too inconsistent to rely on. ST's is an embarrassment. Score fast and often consistently and a win is usually eminent.

Isn't this the truth. 2 1/2 hours after a dominating playoff victory board has 3 new threads, this one so everyone can bitch a Tomlin, which is fine, mustache should have been in the game, a thread about Tuitt and Hargrave, and a thread about Matt fucking Moore. No one has started a thread yet to praise the coaches for having a good plan and a team that looked well prepared.

It is a little surprising to me there's not more happiness going on. I guess in everyone's mind this win was such a foregone conclusion that there's no celebrating afterward?

I'm extremely happy about the big win over the Dolphins. I've hated that team since the days of the Larrys. However, Ben getting hurt and questioning why he was in the game at the time is a legit gripe given Ben's injury history and the team's recent playoff history that has been impacted by injury.

[randomsteelerfan]

How about being pissed at Ben for not realizing he's the Franchise and needs to smarten up and not take unnecessary risks there? Nobody's blaming Ben. I'd blame Ben before I'd chastise Tomlin.

Many people have said Ben is an idiot. I agree. I also agree he's a known idiot, and it's the job of Head Idiot to protect Ben from himself at times.

Well, maybe Ben needs to protect Tomlin from himself and stop stupid shit, too.

[drmalba]

Just FYI....packers 31 giants 13. 6:00 left Rogers is still slinging it downfield. And that's after they lost Jordy Nelson for the game.

[randomsteelerfan]

This is tackle football, remember? Are you really going to blame Tomlin for every injury that occurs? What role did Tomlin have in Pouncy being IRd last year? How about 2010 when Pouncys ankle forced us to trot The Big Legursky and cost us the SB? Damn Tomlin. Where does it stop?

Should he have been out? I woulda taken him out. But I'm not the coach. Still doesn't bother me.

How about being pissed at Ben for not realizing he's the Franchise and needs to smarten up and not take unnecessary risks there? Nobody's blaming Ben. I'd blame Ben before I'd chastise Tomlin.

If Ben's injured, then I'm pissed at both of them. As for your straw man argument, of course there's always inherent risk in playing, which needs to be weighed against the potential benefit of having a player play. So Pouncey's AFCC injury was just an unfortunate outcome of a violent game, but not a needless risk. Similarly, If Ben would have been injured while the game was still in doubt, then I would have been disappointed, but not pissed at either of them. But there are times where the potential risk of injury outweighs the potential benefit of having a player play. Ben, Bell, and Brown in the mid 4th quarter today are great examples.

I'm not disagreeing with you about today. He shoulda been out at the 8min mark at the latest. My response was aimed at you blaming Tomlin for previous injuries to DWill and Bell. I thought that argument was flimsy and more just tacking on

[StillerDownSouth]

Just FYI....packers 31 giants 13. 6:00 left Rogers is still slinging it downfield. And that's after they lost Jordy Nelson for the game.

And Ty Montgomery

[randomsteelerfan]

Just FYI....packers 31 giants 13. 6:00 left Rogers is still slinging it downfield. And that's after they lost Jordy Nelson for the game.

McCarthy.....you fool!!!! Someone send him a link to this thread and set him straight, pronto!!

[StillerDownSouth]

Guess Montgomery is ok, came back in the game for a meaningless goal line plunge.

[JackLambert58]

Just chatting with a Packer fan friend. He's fucking pissed 12 is still in there.

[Kodiak]

Well, maybe Ben needs to protect Tomlin from himself and stop stupid shit, too.

Sure, because that's what Ben is paid to do and Tomlin isn't paid to do. Yep.

[Kodiak]

Just chatting with a Packer fan friend. He's fucking pissed 12 is still in there.

It's really dumb. I think a lot of NFL coaches may know football but aren't exactly rocket scientists. Although Tomlin seems like he's generally a pretty smart guy.

[Jobu]

Precautionary...my bigger concern:
Tony Gonzales said it at the end of the Steelers game today.
Andy Reid is 16-2 after the Bye Week in the Regular Season and 3-0 after bye week in playoffs.......

At the same time, there's no coach I trust to fuck up more in a big spot than Andy Reid. He makes Tomlin seem like a master of all time and space

Didn't Hey Kool-Aid lose a Super Bowl when he was in Philly? Wouldn't that qualify as a playoff loss coming off of a bye week?