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Haley has got to go

Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:08 pm

Worst oc in the nfl.

Horrible



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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:10 pm

Same tired old argument we've had since re-Todd came over after being fired from Kansashitty.... They will do what they do. Continue to lose to shitty teams and miss out on some special talented players.

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Post by Steelknife » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:12 pm

Yeah. These passes and decisions by Haley have been horrible.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:14 pm

Everything is sideways, and it's predictable.

The only time we get anything deep is when Ben reads it at the snap... nothing is planned to go down the field more than 5 yards unless it's AB working a route or it's 3rd and 18 and the defense knows what's coming.

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Post by jeemie » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:20 pm

And Ben needs to stop taking Wednesdays off.
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Post by 86n96 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:21 pm

No shit. No other OC in this league throws 3 picks in a game.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:22 pm

SteelKnife wrote:Yeah. These passes and decisions by Haley have been horrible.


HaleyBall creates a crowded field. Literally runs WRs INTO coverage rather than out of coverage

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:23 pm

dropemjaybird wrote:Everything is sideways, and it's predictable.

The only time we get anything deep is when Ben reads it at the snap... nothing is planned to go down the field more than 5 yards unless it's AB working a route or it's 3rd and 18 and the defense knows what's coming.

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:34 pm

The team is flat out committing white collar crime against the fans

Time to sink this fucking NFL mafia
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:34 pm

Prediction.....offense opens up....scores quick

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:35 pm

Haley can't wait to get to his next swingers party in a raincoat
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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:35 pm

Haley has not evolved past where he started. Haley was covered up by a Ben, Bell, Brown and Bryant talent. How can you allow a stagnant underwhelming coordinator to remain in place?

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:36 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:Haley has not evolved past where he started. Haley was covered up by a Ben, Bell, Brown and Bryant talent. How can you allow a stagnant underwhelming coordinator to remain in place?

They have to fire him and Ben does need to take the reins
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:37 pm

SteelKnife wrote:Yeah. These passes and decisions by Haley have been horrible.

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Post by StillerInCT » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:41 pm

I don't think this is a black or white issue. You have a shitty offensive coordinator running an offense through a QB with declining skills. These are the results. Not sure why the blame can't be laid on both of them equally.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:42 pm

we know Haley's not going anywhere

i'm just hoping the Steelers are embarrassed enough about their performance today to consider blowing shit up and trying some new approaches on offense, much like our defense after the Dallas game last year

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Post by V DUB » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:45 pm

86n96 wrote:No shit. No other OC in this league throws 3 picks in a game.



4.

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Post by AirRescueFF » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:50 pm

Seems to have lit a fire for the Bengals.

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Post by 86n96 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:59 pm

VanWilder wrote:
86n96 wrote:No shit. No other OC in this league throws 3 picks in a game.



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Post by the-other-burg » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:09 pm

Lots of things amiss.

1. Ben's play diminishing
2. Off the field distractions- the national anthem/the AB tantrum and fallout
3. A coaching staff that is being further exposed by #1

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Post by COR-TEN » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:16 pm

I don't understand why everybody seems to think it's one or the other.

Shitty play calling and game planning along with a QB who's skill set is diminishing as a result of age and apathy can co-exist. Sprinkle in sloppy tackling and stupidity all around and this is what you get.
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Post by Suwanee88 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:17 pm

SteelerChef wrote:Worst oc in the nfl.

Horrible

It wasn’t all Haley’s fault today - please

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Post by Suwanee88 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:18 pm

BethlehemSteel wrote:Haley can't wait to get to his next swingers party in a raincoat

Hahahahahahaha

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Post by Jobu » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:19 pm

There is a ton of shit wrong with this team...the biggest being the QB has fallen off a cliff. And there is nothing else other than 84 for the offense to lean on. Lev Bell looks very ordinary, the TE position is loaded with shit, and Bryant is quickly approaching bum status. That said, the coaches must be held responsible for the product on the field. If what you are doing isn’t working, why continue to do it?
This team is predictable and blah. The run blocking schemes are straight out of the 70s. The plodding attrition football BS has to go, and that should start with replacing the OC. Bring in someone, anyone, with a fresh, modern football perspective.

Mike Tomlin needs to start reigning these assclowns in. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m tired of watching this team give up a first down, a 12-15 yard gain, and dance and posture as if they just won the SuperBowl. Of course, what else do you expect from a coach that’s wearing shades when it’s raining?
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Post by Suwanee88 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:21 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:There is a ton of shit wrong with this team...the biggest being the QB has fallen off a cliff. And there is nothing else other than 84 for the offense to lean on. Lev Bell looks very ordinary, the TE position is loaded with shit, and Bryant is quickly approaching bum status. That said, the coaches must be held responsible for the product on the field. If what you are doing isn’t working, why continue to do it?
This team is predictable and blah. The run blocking schemes are straight out of the 70s. The plodding attrition football BS has to go, and that should start with replacing the OC. Bring in someone, anyone, with a fresh, modern football perspective.

Mike Tomlin needs to start reigning these assclowns in. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m tired of watching this team give up a first down, a 12-15 yard gain, and dance and posture as if they just won the SuperBowl. Of course, what else do you expect from a coach that’s wearing shades when it’s raining?


Fair to say that OL is a bit overrated. I heard best in the league several times at the beginning of the season.

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Post by Jobu » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:23 pm

Suwanee88 wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:There is a ton of shit wrong with this team...the biggest being the QB has fallen off a cliff. And there is nothing else other than 84 for the offense to lean on. Lev Bell looks very ordinary, the TE position is loaded with shit, and Bryant is quickly approaching bum status. That said, the coaches must be held responsible for the product on the field. If what you are doing isn’t working, why continue to do it?
This team is predictable and blah. The run blocking schemes are straight out of the 70s. The plodding attrition football BS has to go, and that should start with replacing the OC. Bring in someone, anyone, with a fresh, modern football perspective.

Mike Tomlin needs to start reigning these assclowns in. I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m tired of watching this team give up a first down, a 12-15 yard gain, and dance and posture as if they just won the SuperBowl. Of course, what else do you expect from a coach that’s wearing shades when it’s raining?


Fair to say that OL is a bit overrated. I heard best in the league several times at the beginning of the season.

That too, but the blocking scheme is old school. Noll old school...
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Post by Kodiak » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:26 pm

SteelerChef wrote:HaleyBall creates a crowded field. Literally runs WRs INTO coverage rather than out of coverage


Nail on the head. And if your QB is even 12 inches off on his throw, bad things happen.

That is, unequivocally, everything wrong with this offense.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:29 pm

COR-TEN wrote:I don't understand why everybody seems to think it's one or the other.

Shitty play calling and game planning along with a QB who's skill set is diminishing as a result of age and apathy can co-exist. Sprinkle in sloppy tackling and stupidity all around and this is what you get.

yes!!! plenty of garbage to claim by many..not just today..worse today.. been the trend..

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:34 pm

I can't think of another QB in the league who would be successful in this offense as called by Todd Haley.

Not to many guys are going to have success throwing into the windows Ben is throwing into. The talent alone on the field should cause mismatches whenever Haley wants them, and yet it's never done.

The Steelers on offense are predictable, with all that talent - teams still know what's coming and when... that's on Haley.

I think this offense would be better in the hands of nearly every other coordinator in the league.

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Post by COR-TEN » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:39 pm

dropemjaybird wrote:I can't think of another QB in the league who would be successful in this offense as called by Todd Haley.

Not to many guys are going to have success throwing into the windows Ben is throwing into. The talent alone on the field should cause mismatches whenever Haley wants them, and yet it's never done.

The Steelers on offense are predictable, with all that talent - teams still know what's coming and when... that's on Haley.

I think this offense would be better in the hands of nearly every other coordinator in the league.
Ok. So do you think BR goes back to Haley and says : "hey, it's not working. Guys aren't getting open and I have to squeeze the ball into tight windows. The oline isn't busting holes. Can we do something different? Something to get a spark going; get the defense second guessing themselves?" BR is Haley's eyes and ears on the field.

The game plan didn't change for 4 QTR's from what I saw.
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