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Tomlin Tuesday Presser Time!

Post by Steelperch » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:28 pm

Are you ready for the emptiest 30 minutes of your week? Tune in today at noon:

Watch Live: http://www.steelers.com
Listen Live: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/93-7-the-fan (Big Ben show at 11)


Injuries:
Shazier - still nursing sprained knee. Doubtful for this week.
Foster -



Bucs game
Tomlin called the final play of the game, he gave it to Haley. Had run pass option, he felt comfortable with it. Ben had 5 on 5 in the box and man coverage outside.
Tomlin was very comfortable with the drive before half, doesn't second guess the decision to spike the ball and waste 30 seconds and a down vs calling timeout.
Asked about his racial comments, defended them. Said something about the way he wears his hair. Has he ever been questioned about his hair?
Kelvin Beachum gave up some sacks in the game. Not all his fault.
Zone defense on 41 yard pass play, had 4 man rush. Didn't hold zone very well which allowed catch, didn't close the gap and took bad angles which allowed the RAC.
Disappointing end of the football game.
1/4 into the season we are a 2-2 team. Team is not consistent in performance
Moving forward we will move forward while moving forward.
Poor starts with sack fumble inside their own 10.
Team rebounded well in all 3 phases.
Missed FG before half. (doesn't address his horrible clock management there)
Missed flea flicker play
Missed Wheaton down the sideline
Defense missed opportunities, Troy missed INT in end zone.
Defense stopped Bucs on next to last drive.
Wing's punt sucked.
Presnap penalties really get Tomlin going.

Jags Game
Obviously an 0-4 team but that obviously doesn't mean much because we obviously lost to an 0-3 team last week obviously.
Senderick Marks breaks down pocket inside while two edge rushers get after the QB.
The reason they jumped out on Philly is because their front 4 can get after the QB.
Poslusny on the second level does good job sideline to sideline.
Secondary is in flux with injuries.
Bortles is a talented guy and is very mobile.
Toby Gerhart was a big acquisition for them.
Young WR's Robinson and Marquise Lee are talented. Hurd and Shorts quality vets.
It's less about them and more about us.


Tomlinisms
Obviously x15
Situational football x1
Highly penalized unit x2
Gotta get on the screws x1
Pistol-like play x1
Shotgun-like football x1
Responsibility football x1



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Post by jeemie » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:30 pm

Obviously, I am expecting a very crisp and disciplined press conference, since Tomlin has taken ownership of the discipline issue, if you will.
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Post by Minkah'n History » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:39 pm

When will a Steelers reporter ask him why he leaves games up to his defense time and time again with his 100 mil QB standing on the sidelines? Is it all the turnovers we force Mikey? Do we not trust our best player to win the game?

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:45 pm

Hinestuff wrote:When will a Steelers reporter ask him why he leaves games up to his defense time and time again with his 100 mil QB standing on the sidelines? Is it all the turnovers we force Mikey? Do we not trust our best player to win the game?


+1,000,000

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:46 pm

ASK HIM IF HIS HOUSE IS FOR.......... SALE?

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:48 pm

SP wrote:Are you ready for the emptiest 30 minutes of your week? Tune in today at noon:

Watch Live: http://www.steelers.com
Listen Live: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/93-7-the-fan (Big Ben show at 11)


I look forward to your summary.

I wish someone could tell me we are counting down his final conferences. But he's a great coach with a proven track record....SB winner, great winning %....hope he never leaves.

/sarca

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:26 pm

Get ready, Obviously!!

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:35 pm

Would be nice if the local media truly asked some tough questions....

"Mike, the spike before halftime....did you or Haley instruct Ben to do that?"

"Mike, why does your team play down to the most inferior of teams? Seems like a pattern."

"Mike, any thoughts on the fans who want you gone?"

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:46 pm

Who else, when you read the thread title thought of, "it's peanut butter jelly time!?"

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:36 pm

I might actually listen today.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:11 pm

That fuckface is gonna be sweatin' today!!

BEAUTIFUL!!
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:12 pm

hopalong wrote:ASK HIM IF HIS HOUSE IS FOR.......... SALE?


I love it, Hoppy!

:lol:
"...It's very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present... Do you know what I mean...?"

Edith 'Little Edie' Bouvier Beale

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:13 pm

Potted plant

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:14 pm

BarryFoster wrote:Would be nice if the local media truly asked some tough questions....

"Mike, the spike before halftime....did you or Haley instruct Ben to do that?"

"Mike, why does your team play down to the most inferior of teams? Seems like a pattern."

"Mike, any thoughts on the fans who want you gone?"


What if Ben just spiked it on his own since they were in hurry-up no-huddle and it's really difficult to get instructions relayed from the sideline to a QB who is running down the field to get lined up and stop the clock as quickly as possible?

I'm sure those tough questions would really get great responses, by the way.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:16 pm

Sixx wrote:Potted plant


THIS.
"...It's very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present... Do you know what I mean...?"

Edith 'Little Edie' Bouvier Beale

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Post by Steelafan77 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:22 pm

@AKinkhabwala
Told Mike Tomlin is indeed going to have refs this week at #Steelers practice. With 44 penalties through 4 games... has to help. https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status ... 9040645121


Looks like they're finally getting serious about this penalty issue. Glad to see them taking some sort of approach to eliminate excessive penalization.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:23 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:
@AKinkhabwala
Told Mike Tomlin is indeed going to have refs this week at #Steelers practice. With 44 penalties through 4 games... has to help. https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status ... 9040645121


Looks like they're finally getting serious about this penalty issue. Glad to see them taking some sort of approach to eliminate excessive penalization.


They had refs on the field pretty regularly throughout training camp. Then again, the NFL has different "points of emphasis" from week to week, so who knows whether the training camp refs were even using the same rulebook as the guys they get in the regular season?

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Post by lifelongsteel » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:27 pm

BarryFoster wrote:Would be nice if the local media truly asked some tough questions....

"Mike, the spike before halftime....did you or Haley instruct Ben to do that?"

"Mike, why does your team play down to the most inferior of teams? Seems like a pattern."

"Mike, any thoughts on the fans who want you gone?"


That's a good list of questions. Might want to also ask why it takes the team 20-25 seconds to snap the ball in the "hurry up" offense.

btw - i'd bet a good sum of money that the spike was Ben's call. He's never had a great feel for those situations.

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Post by Merlin86 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:31 pm

Hey Mikey, did you see the Raiders head coach was shit canned, he was only 8-28, but 2-0 against you. What say you?

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Post by jeemie » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:34 pm

Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".
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Post by lifelongsteel » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:35 pm

Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".


Pretty sure Ben can decide to either run or pass from that formation based on what the defense shows. they showed 6. he called the run.

sorry if that kills the narrative

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Post by Steelafan77 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:38 pm

The Pierogi wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:
@AKinkhabwala
Told Mike Tomlin is indeed going to have refs this week at #Steelers practice. With 44 penalties through 4 games... has to help. https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status ... 9040645121


Looks like they're finally getting serious about this penalty issue. Glad to see them taking some sort of approach to eliminate excessive penalization.


They had refs on the field pretty regularly throughout training camp. Then again, the NFL has different "points of emphasis" from week to week, so who knows whether the training camp refs were even using the same rulebook as the guys they get in the regular season?

Whether its just for aesthetics or for real at least there's an attempt being made. it's a step in the right direction. I'll take it.

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Post by jeemie » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:39 pm

Lifelongsteel wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".


Pretty sure Ben can decide to either run or pass from that formation based on what the defense shows. they showed 6. he called the run.

sorry if that kills the narrative


Yes he can, but it doesn't change the fact that they called the same play three times further, and don't you think Tampa can count to 6 as well?

So don't you think they can guess what option Ben is likely to choose based on their box count on a play they've seen three times already?
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Post by Steelafan77 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:39 pm

Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".

They had some success at that particular run play and decided it was the best call at the time. If you will.

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Post by jeemie » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:40 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".

They had some success at that particular run play and decided it was the best call at the time. If you will.


When you have to make a critical first down, it might not be time to test the "We'll run it until they prove they can stop it" hypothesis.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:41 pm

Jeemie wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".

They had some success at that particular run play and decided it was the best call at the time. If you will.


When you have to make a critical first down, it might not be time to test the "We'll run it until they prove they can stop it" hypothesis.


Screw strategy. We do what we do

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:41 pm

Jeemie wrote:
Lifelongsteel wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".


Pretty sure Ben can decide to either run or pass from that formation based on what the defense shows. they showed 6. he called the run.

sorry if that kills the narrative


Yes he can, but it doesn't change the fact that they called the same play three times further, and don't you think Tampa can count to 6 as well?

So don't you think they can guess what option Ben is likely to choose based on their box count on a play they've seen three times already?


THIS. Doesn't kill the narrative for me at all.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:43 pm

Guest: I hate second guessing, but calling a running play with 3rd and 5, when a first down wins the game is the sort of thing I'd hope the opposition tries, not the Steelers. Pro Bowl QB and WR, Wheaton and Miller aren't bad either, Bell can catch as well, perhaps the reward outweighs the risk when it comes to pass/run in the 2014 NFL.

Ed Bouchette: I agree. I think they wanted to run the clock more there and hope they might get a first down to boot. The priority should have been to get the first down.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:45 pm

Jeemie wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".

They had some success at that particular run play and decided it was the best call at the time. If you will.


When you have to make a critical first down, it might not be time to test the "We'll run it until they prove they can stop it" hypothesis.

I was speaking hypothetically about what I think Tomlin might say if asked such a question. I don't agree with that approach anymore than you. I expect Tomlin to get some questions about Sunday but I also expect they'll be less complicated questions. I also think Tomlin won't want to talk about Sunday too long and will push for the discussion towards the jags next week. Watch.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:59 pm

Jeemie wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Now that I've seen the other thread, I want someone to ask Mikey that "OK- you decided to run the ball on 3rd and 5, but can you explain the thinking that went into selecting the same play and formation that had been run three previous times in the game? Because it sure looked like Tampa was expecting it".

They had some success at that particular run play and decided it was the best call at the time. If you will.


When you have to make a critical first down, it might not be time to test the "We'll run it until they prove they can stop it" hypothesis.

On the other hand if you try something new and if fails then you're open to "why didn't you do what was working in a critical situation?"

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