Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman

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Seahawks say Bye Bye to Richard Sherman

Post by steelergenie » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:52 pm

He played the last year on his contract and isn't going to be resigned. Has had operations on the achilles on both legs. Is he done or could the Steelers make a run at him. He's 29. Get rid of no touch Arty Farty. Haden and Sherman would be awesome.
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Post by jebrick » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:55 pm

They just traded Bennett to the Eagles as well
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Post by CASTEELER » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:56 pm

Steelergenie wrote:He played the last year on his contract and isn't going to be resigned. Has had operations on the achilles on both legs. Is he done or could the Steelers make a run at him. He's 29. Get rid of no touch Arty Farty. Haden and Sherman would be awesome.


never going to happen, where do you think Steelers are getting cap space for expensive FAs?

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Post by steelergenie » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:58 pm

They just restructured AB's contract converting next year's payment to a signing bonus freeing up cap space.

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Post by steelmann58 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:02 am

Can he play safety

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Post by Jobu » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:04 am

Surgery on both Achilles??? Dudes likely done....
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Post by Minkah'n History » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:05 am

Jobus Rum wrote:Surgery on both Achilles??? Dudes likely done....
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Yes, not close to being ready for next season.

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Post by steelergenie » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:26 am

steelmann58 wrote:Can he play safety


If he has the wheels to play CB, he should be able to play safety. Plus he's a hitter, not like that quiff Mitchell.

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Post by Steeldrama » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:13 am

NFL Network's Mike Silver believes the Seahawks are "open for business" on a potential Earl Thomas trade.

Having traded DE Michael Bennett and expected to cut CB Richard Sherman, the Seahawks are blowing it up on defense. DE Cliff Avril and SS Kam Chancellor's futures are in doubt due to career-threatening neck injuries. Thomas is healthy and still playing at an extremely high level, so he would make the least sense to part with. Thomas turns 29 in May. He's made six Pro Bowls in the last seven years.
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Post by steelergenie » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:38 am

SteelDrama wrote:
NFL Network's Mike Silver believes the Seahawks are "open for business" on a potential Earl Thomas trade.

Having traded DE Michael Bennett and expected to cut CB Richard Sherman, the Seahawks are blowing it up on defense. DE Cliff Avril and SS Kam Chancellor's futures are in doubt due to career-threatening neck injuries. Thomas is healthy and still playing at an extremely high level, so he would make the least sense to part with. Thomas turns 29 in May. He's made six Pro Bowls in the last seven years.
Source: Chris Wesseling on Twitter


Trade MB for ET. ET at safely and RS at CB. I'm smelling SB bro.

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Post by SOCALSTEEL » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:52 am

Would you trade Bryant and a 3rd to Sea for E Thomas?

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Post by steelergenie » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:53 am

Might be able to get him for just picks, depends how bad Hawks want to move him.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:30 pm

No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....

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Post by DP39 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:42 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....

77, I agree about RS being soft. He certainly isn't the "hitter" Genie thinks he is. I might be interested in Tomas for the right deal. He can still play at a top level for a few more years imo, but we would have to use him properly also to get the most out of his talents, and I'm not so sure we would.

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Post by stillcajun » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:23 pm

DP39 wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....

77, I agree about RS being soft. He certainly isn't the "hitter" Genie thinks he is. I might be interested in Tomas for the right deal. He can still play at a top level for a few more years imo, but we would have to use him properly also to get the most out of his talents, and I'm not so sure we would.


This^

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Post by steelergenie » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:46 pm

Sherman was excellent against the pass and exceptional against the run. Not soft. Tailed off some after the injury.
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Post by DP39 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:52 pm

Sherman's release is official. The Seahawks are definitely blowing up the defense.

Seahawks released CB Richard Sherman.

It's the end of an era in Seattle. The Legion of Boom is undergoing mass overhaul, losing another one of its key elements. Sherman turns 30 later this month and is coming off a torn Achilles' last season. He's not 100 percent yet and also had surgery to remove a bone spur from his other heel earlier this offseason. Sherman will undoubtedly draw plenty of interest on the open market, but he has his question marks. He's largely played zone defense in Seattle, is coming off a serious injury, and is turning 30. The Patriots reportedly poked around on Sherman in trade talks last offseason and likely will have interest again this year after missing out on Aqib Talib. The Seahawks save $11 million in cap space with this move but have a huge hole in the secondary

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Post by steelergenie » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:18 pm

Steelergenie wrote:Sherman was excellent against the pass Ranked #1 for over 300 targets and exceptional against the run. Not soft. Tailed off some after the injury.

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Post by 955876 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:38 pm

I wonder if our RB/WR extraordinaire could beat Sherman in a foot race.
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Post by Jobu » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:37 am

955876 wrote:I wonder if our RB/WR extraordinaire could beat Sherman in a foot race.

Right now...I could beat Sherman in a foot race.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:51 am

Stillcajun wrote:
DP39 wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:No and No. Thomas is approaching the wrong side of 30 fast. I wouldn't trade Bryant for a guy that is likely to slow way down athletically? On top of the injury history? For what? 1, maybe 2 years? Do the Steelers even have the cap space after a trade? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... omas-6523/
If they were trading for a guy around the same age as Bryant (25-26) then I would look at it differently.


Richard Sherman is all but done IMHO. Two achilles surgeries? The latest in November of 2017. Are you kidding me? He likely won't be ready to play at the start of the season. That means no camp, OTA's or preseason to acclimate himself on this team. No thanks. Some team may pick him up after his release. I hope it's not the Steelers.

And no way would I try and move Sherman to safety. He may be able to play there but dude is soft tackling. Deion Sanders soft....

77, I agree about RS being soft. He certainly isn't the "hitter" Genie thinks he is. I might be interested in Tomas for the right deal. He can still play at a top level for a few more years imo, but we would have to use him properly also to get the most out of his talents, and I'm not so sure we would.


This^

I understand your point. Now. How do the Steelers pay him? In ketchup? In the last year of a C2 and I'm sure he'll want another big C3 type payday. No sarca just inquiring minds like to know. :P

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Post by DP39 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:24 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:I understand your point. Now. How do the Steelers pay him? In ketchup? In the last year of a C2 and I'm sure he'll want another big C3 type payday. No sarca just inquiring minds like to know. :P


It would be difficult, but not impossible. If we do get cap relief for Shaz, and Mitchell, Wilcox and Gay are gone, that's almost $19m right there. Bring back Wilcox for $1-2m (maybe), sign rookie class at $5-6m and there should still be room. I know, lots of ifs, but it could happen. I'm sure it's likely just me window shopping though. :lol:

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:04 am

Payday!!!

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Post by steelergenie » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:15 am

Signs with 49ers for 13M per year for 3 years in incentive laden deal. Too rich for the Steelers. Went in one day.

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Post by R_S » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:05 pm

how has he signed? is this like a verbal agreement until the 14th?

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Post by steelergenie » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:38 pm

He's agreed to it. Maybe not signed yet.

R S wrote:how has he signed? is this like a verbal agreement until the 14th?

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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:58 am

Sherman's full guarantee on the deal is only $3 million in the form of a signing bonus. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... with-49ers
$3Mil to an aged, rehabbing [2nd achilles injury] corner who avoids contact when ever possible. Was never real fast to begin with. Hell of a gamble by 49'ers GM Lynch.

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Post by Ice » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:16 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:
Sherman's full guarantee on the deal is only $3 million in the form of a signing bonus. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... with-49ers
$3Mil to an aged, rehabbing [2nd achilles injury] corner who avoids contact when ever possible. Was never real fast to begin with. Hell of a gamble by 49'ers GM Lynch.


Agreed. If it weren't for the hot finish last year, you could chalk it up to signing a big name to drum up enthusiasm, but hey, not a huge risk for a young team, with a high reward for a couple of years, maybe, if it pays off. Think (and I know it's not exactly apples to apples) what we'd look like on the back end without the Haden pickup before last season.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:38 pm

This is worse than James Harrison going to the Patriots. This is Antonio Brown going to the Bengals or Hines Ward going to the Ravens.

Actually, this is Sidney Crosby going to the Flyers.

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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:11 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:This is worse than James Harrison going to the Patriots. This is Antonio Brown going to the Bengals or Hines Ward going to the Ravens.

Actually, this is Sidney Crosby going to the Flyers.


I live in Seattle and this is pretty spot on. Sherman made the biggest play in the franchise history (the NFCCG that season was the Super Bowl that year), against the 9ers with Kaepernick at the helm.

The pass at the one yard line against the Pats is the single dumbest play in NFL history. Give the ball to Lynch and they win back to back; which would make all of these giant contracts they paid there defensive guys during their “run” a little easier to cope with. You can’t build a defense like that and expect it to last forever. All you can do is hope to bring home the hardware while the pieces are there.
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