QB Coach?

[Greeksteel]

Gerry Dulac
@gerrydulac
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The Steelers are talking to Mike Sullivan, a long-time former offensive coordinator/QB coach with the NY Giants and Denver Broncos, about becoming their QB coach, per source.

[Ice]

Another Mike Sullivan. Well, the original won a couple of titles.

[Havoc]

The Giants are not the organization I would be looking to pull from for forward thinking cutting edge thinking offense. I'm skeptical.

If this is him...

As OC his offenses Pts rankings...

13th, 30th, 26th, 31st

He would fit right in here

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... ullMi0.htm

[steelmann58]

QB and OL Coach hiring are going o be interesting

[steelmann58]

still nothing on Either the qb or ol coaches yet wonder if they are still holding interviews?

[stillthere]

still nothing on Either the qb or ol coaches yet wonder if they are still holding interviews?

2 weeks ago was easier, this past week everyone had eyeballs on the Senior Bowl since no combine in Indy. Rough offseason for not having eyes on draftable players. I am referring to the fact that a few of the coaches who could be looking at tape are not currently on our staff looking for what ever it is we are going to teach them. At least on D they have Austin who can break down DB's film on O they need to get these positions filled sooner than later, in theory on O they have the young guy his name is slipping my mind (Klemm?) for OLine film. More eyes is still better when breaking down film though.

[steelmann58]

They need an Qb Coach can’t put this on the new oc

[Jobu]

They need an Qb Coach can’t put this on the new oc

Don’t worry...I hear they’re interviewing the guy that changes light bulbs and waters the practice field at the UPMC facility.

[Kodiak]

Don’t worry...I hear they’re interviewing the guy that changes light bulbs and waters the practice field at the UPMC facility.

We're going to grow the grass super long next year so our offense can be even more plodding

[Jobu]

Don’t worry...I hear they’re interviewing the guy that changes light bulbs and waters the practice field at the UPMC facility.

We're going to grow the grass super long next year so our offense can be even more plodding

Then they have the right guy.

[RemoAZ]

Just going to be an intern QB coach this year. Can't travel with the team but his parking will be validated.

[steelmann58]

Don’t they have an offense Assistant sure he be promoted

[Baltostiller]

I still want Charlie Batch for that job. I think he would be great.

[Greeksteel]

ProFootballTalk
@ProFootballTalk
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Steelers hire Mike Sullivan as QB coach

Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
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The #Steelers are hiring longtime NFL assistant Mike Sullivan as their QBs coach, sources say. It’s a role he had with the #Giants and #Broncos. So Eli Manning’s former QB coach will now work with fellow ‘04 draftee Ben Roethlisberger (assuming Ben returns, of course).

[Baltostiller]

ProFootballTalk
@ProFootballTalk
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Steelers hire Mike Sullivan as QB coach

Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
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The #Steelers are hiring longtime NFL assistant Mike Sullivan as their QBs coach, sources say. It’s a role he had with the #Giants and #Broncos. So Eli Manning’s former QB coach will now work with fellow ‘04 draftee Ben Roethlisberger (assuming Ben returns, of course).

So much for a young and hungry assistant coach. Tomlin's coaching "tree" will continue not to bear fruit...

[El Kabong]

ProFootballTalk
@ProFootballTalk
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Steelers hire Mike Sullivan as QB coach

Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
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The #Steelers are hiring longtime NFL assistant Mike Sullivan as their QBs coach, sources say. It’s a role he had with the #Giants and #Broncos. So Eli Manning’s former QB coach will now work with fellow ‘04 draftee Ben Roethlisberger (assuming Ben returns, of course).

So much for a young and hungry assistant coach. Tomlin's coaching "tree" will continue not to bear fruit...

Is Sullivan not a good choice, or do you just not like him because he's not "young and hungry?"

[steelmann58]

I like the Hire good with. this move.

[cop1211]

Hired to work with Haskins to see if he's worth a bag of popcorn.

[COR-TEN]

Hired to work with Haskins to see if he's worth a bag of popcorn.

Is that plain popcorn or flavored with bacon fat or parmesan?

[Scunge]

Don't know what to make of this hiring.

First thing that springs to my mind is that there is always a connection, always. So, what is the connection?

Well, I see that he coached the NY Giants WRs from 2004-2009. Our current WR coach, Ike Hilliard was a WR on that Giants team in 2004 before moving on to Tampa Bay in 2005 where Tomlin was coaching the secondary.

Not really impressed, at all, with his work with the Giants WR group. Amani Toomer? Ike Hilliard that one year? Plax was a known, developed player who moved on from us in free agency but had already a couple seasons over 1,000 yards on his resume, one over 1,300+ yards, so what other players did the Giants have that Sullivan coached up?

As an OC or QB coach, what did Sullivan really do? I am one that was never really impressed with Eli Manning.

Do the Steelers think his Army/military background, maybe a more Tom Coughlin style of discipline will pay dividends in developing Haskins?? That somehow he will respond to tough love?

What really bothers me is that the Steelers have this multiple personality/duality when it comes to their team.

The Steelers will gladly hire qualified candidates, real talented coaches for the defensive side of the team.

Karl Dunbar for example, had put his time in, paid his dues, was at Alabama as a coach, at Buffalo, at the Jets, at Minnesota, at Chicago. Every one of those teams had quality defensive linemen, some Pro Bowlers. A great hire.

Teryl Austin, had been a long respected secondary coach and was a DC for Detroit. He has had something like 7-8 Pro Bowlers from the players he coached at all his stops. Again, a great hire.

Then the Steelers, on offense, will hire guys who never coached in the NFL before. . Eddie Faulkner had never coached in the NFL. Matt Canada had never coached in the NFL before last season, and now he is the OC. Adrian Klemm was our assistant OL coach the past two years, but before that, you guessed it, he never had coached in the NFL!

That is a lot of inexperience with no proven track record on offense. Ike Hilliard and Alfredo Roberts, with those two hires I have no problem, they have put in the time, have the proven track records, I can understand those hires.

I wish the Steelers would attack the offensive coaching hires with the same gusto that they fill the defensive coaching positions.

The thing with Klemm, in digging in his history, is that he was the run game coordinator when he was the OL coach at UCLA. His first 3 years in that role as the run game coordinator, the team averaged 190, 196, 210 yards rushing with Jonathan Franklin and then Paul Perkins as the RBs, having seasons of 1,734 yards, 1,572 yards, etc. Klemm's final year at UCLA they averaged a lowly 84 yards per game rushing.

Again, we have hired a RB coach, a QB coach, now our OC, and promoted an assistant to the OL coach role now, and all of them have had damn little experience in the NFL in terms of coaching prior to us hiring them. It boggles the mind. you do things like that when you are in a rebuild and taking a long game approach, willing to be patient and let your young coaches develop and mature, not when you are going all in and trying to win a championship with Ben's ticking clock about to expire.

Which to me shows that they would be relieved if Ben did retire.

[bradshaw2ben]

I offer two possible explanations for how they hire on the offensive side:

1. everybody knows the HC wants to play a certain brand of football, so creative and aggressive offensive minds are going to be apply elsewhere.
2. lame-duck QB ( @Scunge if they wanted Ben to reitire, they'd have brought in ball of fire offensive coaches who wanted to change everything... they did not.
3. The HC himself is a lame duck and the org knows. They are hiring people they know will be let go in a year unless they hit big

[955876]

2021 season looking bright thus far.

[blu]

I offer two possible explanations for how they hire on the offensive side:

1. everybody knows the HC wants to play a certain brand of football, so creative and aggressive offensive minds are going to be apply elsewhere.
2. lame-duck QB ( @Scunge if they wanted Ben to retire, they'd have brought in ball of fire offensive coaches who wanted to change everything... they did not.
3. The HC himself is a lame duck and the org knows. They are hiring people they know will be let go in a year unless they hit big

Then if I understand the above right - 2022 & following are what we should look forward to & 2021 should be more of the same without the 11-0 start.

[Jizz Mop]

2021 season looking bright thus far.

Yes, like a 5 watt bulb

[stillthere]

So much for a young and hungry assistant coach. Tomlin's coaching "tree" will continue not to bear fruit...

Is Sullivan not a good choice, or do you just not like him because he's not "young and hungry?"

This is where I am at. QB coach you may be better off with a guy that has seen everything for 20+ years. Like having Tom Moore in the building even if he is not out on the practice field every rep.

[Steelersfan]

Man a lot of negativity going on. I understand why. But I have a different opinion. First of all, approx 31 of the best position coaches in the world are already employed, right? Were there any, much better options out there, when its all said & done? And I am glad they didn't hire any washed up old ex HCs that never did anything of significance, in the NFL.

I guess what I am trying to say; I wanted change in the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball badly. And the Steelers did that. I also think coaches are a lottery pick, just like draft picks. They may work out, they may not. SO, I'm just happy they made the changes.

We all know the history of the Steeler "same ole, same ole" philosophy. AT LEAST THEY MADE THE CHANGES. I'll reserve judgement till they piss me off & show no improvement, ingenuity or NO ADJUSTMENT when needed.

[stillthere]

3. The HC himself is a lame duck and the org knows. They are hiring people they know will be let go in a year unless they hit big

This is my thinking. If Tomlin puts up next year he gets the option year or extended. If Tomlin does not get some things fixed he will not get the option year.

[steelmann58]

Tomlin going nowhere. But I do think the FO needs think about it doing a extension. But I have to question the Klemm move

[COR-TEN]

Man a lot of negativity going on. I understand why. But I have a different opinion. First of all, approx 31 of the best position coaches in the world are already employed, right? Were there any, much better options out there, when its all said & done? And I am glad they didn't hire any washed up old ex HCs that never did anything of significance, in the NFL.

I guess what I am trying to say; I wanted change in the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball badly. And the Steelers did that. I also think coaches are a lottery pick, just like draft picks. They may work out, they may not. SO, I'm just happy they made the changes.

We all know the history of the Steeler "same ole, same ole" philosophy. AT LEAST THEY MADE THE CHANGES. I'll reserve judgement till they piss me off & show no improvement, ingenuity or NO ADJUSTMENT when needed.

I'll second that. Although I still think promoting from within might not be the smartest move. But they are making changes.