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[SteelerDayTrader]

1) I think FC mentioned that Dotson should go back to RG in the podcast 2 weeks ago ?? I think that’s a good idea to try and see if it works. Dotson looks like he has put on about 30lbs of bad weight so I wonder if the training camp rumors about coaches being disappointed with his performance had merit ?? I also think the Steelers tried to split the difference moving Dotson from RG where he was pretty damn good to LG hoping he could perform at his RG level and that they could fill RG adequately. I think that’s a mistake bad teams like the Steelers often make. They should’ve left Dotson at RG and been real happy they had a 4th rd pick begin to look elite at RG

2) I think it was Mick who mentioned using more 2 TE sets mainly because every defense in the nfl right now is 1st choice geared to stop 3WR 1RB 1TE sets and the Steelers aren’t even good at that. I don’t believe Friermuth will ever be more than a 2TE but he’s look better paired with a better TE in a 2TE set

3) Several posters have addressed the trade deadline but I really only see the WR group having some trade value. I think Cody White could give you JJSS/Claypool/Washington type production. Of the tradable 3 (JJSS/Claypool/Washington) I’d guess Claypool has the highest value as I think some team would still think they could get some good performance out of his looks like Tarzan plays like Jane career so far. Will the Steelers have guts to trade Claypool and let underperformers Washington and JJSS walk ?? Will they have enough ability to address their own mistakes and move on ?? I kinda doubt it on both parts but I think Claypool could probably get a 2nd right now if a contending team has injury needs. That 2nd could trade down and net a 3rd and 4th which I think there will be plenty of better WRs available in either of those to replace Claypools production as well as add another piece elsewhere. I’m not sure JJSS or Washington would bring much in trade value but on a team that several real good drafts away from competing for a Lombardi I would take what I could get for either of them. Both seem very replaceable to me

4) Many posters have stressed the need to address the OL. I
This week I’m still leaning towards drafting 3 OL in the top 100 and a TE in the top 50. Picks 1 and 2 for me are RT Evan Neal and TE Jaylen Wydermyer. The Steelers are a lousy drafting scouting and coaching team at this point. I think they need to draft measurements and tape exclusively for a while until they build a decent core. It’s often seemed like the Steelers have kind of a Walter Mitty approach to drafting and developing players. They fall in love with the fantasy that they are a good organization and that they have a magical ability to coach up try hard nice guy players and turn them into “acceptable” players. Imo that fails on 3 levels. 1) the Steelers aren’t good at coaching scouting or drafting 2) acceptable players don’t make routine game changing plays 3) it predisposes you to drafting guys like Rudolph Bush and Green. The Steelers deep down somewhere kinda seem to resent and repress players that have elite talent to the point they can win without much “coaching” or “development” such as it is with the Steelers

[Roeth2Rudolph]

1) I think FC mentioned that Dotson should go back to RG in the podcast 2 weeks ago ?? I think that’s a good idea to try and see if it works. Dotson looks like he has put on about 30lbs of bad weight so I wonder if the training camp rumors about coaches being disappointed with his performance had merit ?? I also think the Steelers tried to split the difference moving Dotson from RG where he was pretty damn good to LG hoping he could perform at his RG level and that they could fill RG adequately. I think that’s a mistake bad teams like the Steelers often make. They should’ve left Dotson at RG and been real happy they had a 4th rd pick begin to look elite at RG

2) I think it was Mick who mentioned using more 2 TE sets mainly because every defense in the nfl right now is 1st choice geared to stop 3WR 1RB 1TE sets and the Steelers aren’t even good at that. I don’t believe Friermuth will ever be more than a 2TE but he’s look better paired with a better TE in a 2TE set

3) Several posters have addressed the trade deadline but I really only see the WR group having some trade value. I think Cody White could give you JJSS/Claypool/Washington type production. Of the tradable 3 (JJSS/Claypool/Washington) I’d guess Claypool has the highest value as I think some team would still think they could get some good performance out of his looks like Tarzan plays like Jane career so far. Will the Steelers have guts to trade Claypool and let underperformers Washington and JJSS walk ?? Will they have enough ability to address their own mistakes and move on ?? I kinda doubt it on both parts but I think Claypool could probably get a 2nd right now if a contending team has injury needs. That 2nd could trade down and net a 3rd and 4th which I think there will be plenty of better WRs available in either of those to replace Claypools production as well as add another piece elsewhere. I’m not sure JJSS or Washington would bring much in trade value but on a team that several real good drafts away from competing for a Lombardi I would take what I could get for either of them. Both seem very replaceable to me

4) Many posters have stressed the need to address the OL. I
This week I’m still leaning towards drafting 3 OL in the top 100 and a TE in the top 50. Picks 1 and 2 for me are RT Evan Neal and TE Jaylen Wydermyer. The Steelers are a lousy drafting scouting and coaching team at this point. I think they need to draft measurements and tape exclusively for a while until they build a decent core. It’s often seemed like the Steelers have kind of a Walter Mitty approach to drafting and developing players. They fall in love with the fantasy that they are a good organization and that they have a magical ability to coach up try hard nice guy players and turn them into “acceptable” players. Imo that fails on 3 levels. 1) the Steelers aren’t good at coaching scouting or drafting 2) acceptable players don’t make routine game changing plays 3) it predisposes you to drafting guys like Rudolph Bush and Green. The Steelers deep down somewhere kinda seem to resent and repress players that have elite talent to the point they can win without much “coaching” or “development” such as it is with the Steelers

#1... Jesus, We're not moving guards around. Dotson's ankle may still be dicked up.

#2 The Fry Daddy will prove to be one of the better picks ever made in the 21st century. Please hang this over my head for the remainder of my life if I'm wrong.

#3 We're not trading anyone for shit. It's just mental masturbation to think otherwise.

#4 If we continue to play Ben, we will be drafting very high next April. It will be a shame to have done so, because this team has a LOT of talent on it at many positions. They may be tanking on purpose playing Ben, I really don't think there's any other more logical conclusion to come to. So maybe they are angling for some player high in next years draft?

[K_C_]

1) I think FC mentioned that Dotson should go back to RG in the podcast 2 weeks ago ?? I think that’s a good idea to try and see if it works. Dotson looks like he has put on about 30lbs of bad weight so I wonder if the training camp rumors about coaches being disappointed with his performance had merit ?? I also think the Steelers tried to split the difference moving Dotson from RG where he was pretty damn good to LG hoping he could perform at his RG level and that they could fill RG adequately. I think that’s a mistake bad teams like the Steelers often make. They should’ve left Dotson at RG and been real happy they had a 4th rd pick begin to look elite at RG

2) I think it was Mick who mentioned using more 2 TE sets mainly because every defense in the nfl right now is 1st choice geared to stop 3WR 1RB 1TE sets and the Steelers aren’t even good at that. I don’t believe Friermuth will ever be more than a 2TE but he’s look better paired with a better TE in a 2TE set

3) Several posters have addressed the trade deadline but I really only see the WR group having some trade value. I think Cody White could give you JJSS/Claypool/Washington type production. Of the tradable 3 (JJSS/Claypool/Washington) I’d guess Claypool has the highest value as I think some team would still think they could get some good performance out of his looks like Tarzan plays like Jane career so far. Will the Steelers have guts to trade Claypool and let underperformers Washington and JJSS walk ?? Will they have enough ability to address their own mistakes and move on ?? I kinda doubt it on both parts but I think Claypool could probably get a 2nd right now if a contending team has injury needs. That 2nd could trade down and net a 3rd and 4th which I think there will be plenty of better WRs available in either of those to replace Claypools production as well as add another piece elsewhere. I’m not sure JJSS or Washington would bring much in trade value but on a team that several real good drafts away from competing for a Lombardi I would take what I could get for either of them. Both seem very replaceable to me

4) Many posters have stressed the need to address the OL. I
This week I’m still leaning towards drafting 3 OL in the top 100 and a TE in the top 50. Picks 1 and 2 for me are RT Evan Neal and TE Jaylen Wydermyer. The Steelers are a lousy drafting scouting and coaching team at this point. I think they need to draft measurements and tape exclusively for a while until they build a decent core. It’s often seemed like the Steelers have kind of a Walter Mitty approach to drafting and developing players. They fall in love with the fantasy that they are a good organization and that they have a magical ability to coach up try hard nice guy players and turn them into “acceptable” players. Imo that fails on 3 levels. 1) the Steelers aren’t good at coaching scouting or drafting 2) acceptable players don’t make routine game changing plays 3) it predisposes you to drafting guys like Rudolph Bush and Green. The Steelers deep down somewhere kinda seem to resent and repress players that have elite talent to the point they can win without much “coaching” or “development” such as it is with the Steelers

#1... Jesus, We're not moving guards around. Dotson's ankle may still be dicked up.

#2 The Fry Daddy will prove to be one of the better picks ever made in the 21st century. Please hang this over my head for the remainder of my life if I'm wrong.

#3 We're not trading anyone for shit. It's just mental masturbation to think otherwise.

#4 If we continue to play Ben, we will be drafting very high next April. It will be a shame to have done so, because this team has a LOT of talent on it at many positions. They may be tanking on purpose playing Ben, I really don't think there's any other more logical conclusion to come to. So maybe they are angling for some player high in next years draft?

GREAT post.

[955876]

If we continue to play Ben, we will be drafting very high next April.

Aside from adding some TDs & yards to move himself further up the all-time list, looking forward to hopefully drafting top 5 is all there really is to look forward to this season.

I dont get excited over mediocrity. This team has zero chance of being a postseason threat this year with the current QBs and coaches.

Adding a few extra meaningless wins just gives Dunce more reason to pat his lapdog on the head and give him some bones.

[Roeth2Rudolph]

If we continue to play Ben, we will be drafting very high next April.

Aside from adding some TDs & yards to move himself further up the all-time list, looking forward to hopefully drafting top 5 is all there really is to look forward to this season.

I dont get excited over mediocrity. This team has zero chance of being a postseason threat this year with the current QBs and coaches.

Adding a few extra meaningless wins just gives Dunce more reason to pat his lapdog on the head and give him some bones.

I will never count any Stiller out until he is proved to be dead, Rudolph included, We can compete THIS year with competent QB play. I believe Rudolph gives a chance to get to the postseason. Anything can happen in the postseason, including Rudolph getting injured and Ben coming back for a fairytale ending. Ben is sinking this right now though. Don't fool yourself.

[K_C_]

If we continue to play Ben, we will be drafting very high next April.

Aside from adding some TDs & yards to move himself further up the all-time list, looking forward to hopefully drafting top 5 is all there really is to look forward to this season.

I dont get excited over mediocrity. This team has zero chance of being a postseason threat this year with the current QBs and coaches.

Adding a few extra meaningless wins just gives Dunce more reason to pat his lapdog on the head and give him some bones.

I will never count any Stiller out until he is proved to be dead, Rudolph included, We can compete THIS year with competent QB play. I believe Rudolph gives a chance to get to the postseason. Anything can happen in the postseason, including Rudolph getting injured and Ben coming back for a fairytale ending. Ben is sinking this right now though. Don't fool yourself.

I hope they keep running Ben out there.

This is the PERFECT season to go 3-14

[Roeth2Rudolph]

Aside from adding some TDs & yards to move himself further up the all-time list, looking forward to hopefully drafting top 5 is all there really is to look forward to this season.

I dont get excited over mediocrity. This team has zero chance of being a postseason threat this year with the current QBs and coaches.

Adding a few extra meaningless wins just gives Dunce more reason to pat his lapdog on the head and give him some bones.

I will never count any Stiller out until he is proved to be dead, Rudolph included, We can compete THIS year with competent QB play. I believe Rudolph gives a chance to get to the postseason. Anything can happen in the postseason, including Rudolph getting injured and Ben coming back for a fairytale ending. Ben is sinking this right now though. Don't fool yourself.

I hope they keep running Ben out there.

This is the PERFECT season to go 3-14

Well you must have better coping mechanisms than me my friend, cause this shit has put me on one hell of a bender.

[K_C_]

I will never count any Stiller out until he is proved to be dead, Rudolph included, We can compete THIS year with competent QB play. I believe Rudolph gives a chance to get to the postseason. Anything can happen in the postseason, including Rudolph getting injured and Ben coming back for a fairytale ending. Ben is sinking this right now though. Don't fool yourself.

I hope they keep running Ben out there.

This is the PERFECT season to go 3-14

Well you must have better coping mechanisms than me my friend, cause this shit has put me on one hell of a bender.

When shit starts going completely haywire I get up and go do something else.

[Jizz Mop]

Shits been going haywire for last 10 games

Barely beat Indy….last win of 2020

Only 2021 win we really had no business winning but I’ll take it

2-8 baby

#becauseTomlin

[Roeth2Rudolph]

Shits been going haywire for last 10 games

Barely beat Indy….last win of 2020

Only 2021 win we really had no business winning but I’ll take it

2-8 baby

#becauseTomlin

Yeah I think KC has a point, I'm just unfortunately unable to incorporate it into my lifestyle. I've been watching the Steelers since the mid 1980s when I was eating fruit wrinkles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NWGUD_MEU and drinking capri sun during the games.

My best bet is to continue drinking booze to try to quell my rage. I can definitely understand what was going through the head of the guy that drove through three rivers stadium, claiming it was Mark Malone's shitty play that caused him to do so. https://apnews.com/article/d82e27184e2e ... d0affc8359

[K_C_]

Shits been going haywire for last 10 games

Barely beat Indy….last win of 2020

Only 2021 win we really had no business winning but I’ll take it

2-8 baby

#becauseTomlin

Yeah I think KC has a point, I'm just unfortunately unable to incorporate it into my lifestyle. I've been watching the Steelers since the mid 1980s when I was eating fruit wrinkles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NWGUD_MEU and drinking capri sun during the games.

My best bet is to continue drinking booze to try to quell my rage. I can definitely understand what was going through the head of the guy that drove through three rivers stadium, claiming it was Mark Malone's shitty play that caused him to do so. https://apnews.com/article/d82e27184e2e ... d0affc8359

I’ve been watching the Steelers since, I believe 1969. Even after I moved to South Florida in 1998, I used to punch holes in walls and shit during Steelers games. I remember distinctly kicking over a table during the AFC Championship game vs Denver when Kordell threw a particularly bad INT. I was sitting there with my girlfriend (now wife) at the time and she was mortified. I can’t tell you how many remote controls I absolutely fuckin DESTROYED during Steelers games.

But maybe 3 or 4 years ago, I decided enough was enough. Now, when shit starts going badly I either leave or change the channel.

It’s that simple.

[sinceiwas4]

i thought all along we needed oline rebuilt 1st before taking qb so i was happy enuff with using Ben as a transition qb during the rebuild. his dead money kinda made it a no brainer to me. he gets a chance to play in front of fans on way out, and worst case scenario we get higher drsft picks is what i thought was better than taking a qb last draft. i stand by it. let him play it out. maybe he catches a 2nd or 5th wind or whatever, which would be fun to watch as a fan of what he gave the team over his career, but i doubt it. and if not i'm ok with that as a fan of the team?as i see it as a chance to continue building an oline 1st. i'm not upset with the horrid play so fsr theyre rookies learning in real time let em gel add pieces nextvyr and then if the line does gel add a qb after that. if that means Ben retires and we go rudolph and haskins next yr while rebuilding line still fine. again, worst case scrnario is we have a line thats better with some experience before we go qb with a high pick cuz neither of those 2 worked out. we are rebuilding rn. that's all. so it goes. fuck Tomlins last yrs for wasting what shouldve been a cpl more Lombardis for Ben. but i also recognize that Hungry young Tomlin is generally credited by the team and players of his superbowl win as being the reason Harrison had a stresm of blockers on one of my favorite plays i ever watched. he earned his superbowl as a HC. i wish that same hunger had lasted but alas it hasnt. obviously. end rant.

[Roeth2Rudolph]

Shits been going haywire for last 10 games

Barely beat Indy….last win of 2020

Only 2021 win we really had no business winning but I’ll take it

2-8 baby

#becauseTomlin

Yeah I think KC has a point, I'm just unfortunately unable to incorporate it into my lifestyle. I've been watching the Steelers since the mid 1980s when I was eating fruit wrinkles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NWGUD_MEU and drinking capri sun during the games.

My best bet is to continue drinking booze to try to quell my rage. I can definitely understand what was going through the head of the guy that drove through three rivers stadium, claiming it was Mark Malone's shitty play that caused him to do so. https://apnews.com/article/d82e27184e2e ... d0affc8359

I’ve been watching the Steelers since, I believe 1969. Even after I moved to South Florida in 1998, I used to punch holes in walls and shit during Steelers games. I remember distinctly kicking over a table during the AFC Championship game vs Denver when Kordell threw a particularly bad INT. I was sitting there with my girlfriend (now wife) at the time and she was mortified. I can’t tell you how many remote controls I absolutely fuckin DESTROYED during Steelers games.

But maybe 3 or 4 years ago, I decided enough was enough. Now, when shit starts going badly I either leave or change the channel.

It’s that simple.

I certainly hope to get there someday my brother. I don't think it going to happen this year.